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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 19:01:14 Reply

Hey, I MAY not post here on weekdays so that might be a HUGE gap....

Pt 3 of The Transformations

Jack was watching TV. Pretty much like any teenager whose VERY bored. Yawning, he wished this day
could be better some how. Slowly shuffling to the kitchen, he found a unique kit-kat bar. It's wrapper was yellow and it said it contained peanuts. Jack took it anyway.

Sitting back on the reclined chair, he took a bite of the kit-kat once he opened it. The taste was weird.... no-not weird... amazing. It was a mixture of sweetness and sour, what Jack liked best. He soon devoured the chocolate within seconds. He breathed a huge sigh and wondered if any stores had any of this wonderful treat.

30 minutes later of watching TV, Jim started to get woozy. Rubbing his stomach to calm it down, he realised that it felt warm. Very warm. He took off his shirt hastily and saw a yellow glow right on his belly. Whats more, it was getting brighter. Jim wanted to scream but he couldn't, he was too terrified.

Suddenly, a burst of yellow light spewed out from the house. Jim was knocked unconscious. After a few minutes, he came to. He felt lighter. He looked down and saw he yellow pants. Not realising he was grasping a giant pencil, he heard a scream. Turning around, he finally figured what he had become, he was his favourite computer game character...

Fancy Pants

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 19:44:43 Reply

Hey FlashCam, is this story of yours just a mass of short stories that really have nothing to do with the previous entry OR are you going somewhere with this?

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 22:50:00 Reply

At 1/30/10 10:42 PM, FBIpolux wrote:
Going on Newgrounds on my PS3 sucks ass. It's laggy as hell and all. I was like "Sweet now I can watch Flash movies on my big ass T.V.!" but found out it lagged worse than my old Win 98 Aptiva.

And I was excited when my cell phone had flash on it and unlimited internet until I realized that none of the flash actually load, the responds to review button, commenting on user pages, and voting on submissions didn't work. The only thing I can do with it is read topics and post in topics.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-30 22:58:38 Reply

Last night I had a really detailed dream about a guy breaking out of jail, and I think it should be able to adapt perfectly to what I'm working on now. Should really give the story a nice, sharp edge. I love it when things like this happen.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 00:16:27 Reply

At 1/30/10 07:44 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Hey FlashCam, is this story of yours just a mass of short stories that really have nothing to do with the previous entry OR are you going somewhere with this?

Yup, I'm thinking of this being my 1st REAL story. It'll all combine soon enough


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 00:27:26 Reply

Anyway....

THE TRANSFORMATION Pt 4

Fred screamed. He was just outside Jack's house and then some bright yellow light emerged and he felt a burning sensation. His hands were pumping painfully and he felt that every part of his body ached. As black dots were dancing before his eyes, his legs and arms flustered uselessly. Falling face first onto the ground, he stayed there shuddering.

Tap Tap Tap. Someone was coming, Fred got on his legs haphazardly. A stickman walked out of the door.

Puzzled, Fred said,'Who the hell are you??'

The stickman replied with amusement,'I'm my favorite computer character and it seems you are,' pointing at him, 'a tankman'

Looking down, he saw that he was black and white and was wearing a hard helmet. Suddenly, he heard something clanking. Turning at the stickman, it shrugged.

'Wasn't me.'

Fred turned slowly and braced himself. He knew it wasn't gonna be pretty as a shadow cautiously came closer.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 00:37:31 Reply

Does anybody else use Zuda.com? I'm looking forward to their new webcomic contest on Monday. Last month's contest was kind of crazy... the leading comic was removed from the contest, because of some bullshit drama. Anyway, something else that I'm looking forward to (just so that you don't think I'm a shill or something... LOL), is that I organized a swap at my local watering hole tomorrow. Me and some of my Face Book friends are going to be trading: cd's, sketches, photos, etc... The sucky thing is that I have to work afterward, so can only drink a couple beers... boo! I used to swap a lot of comics back in the day, too. Okay, better get back to work... -Daniel

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 01:26:38 Reply

At 1/29/10 02:23 AM, FBIpolux wrote:
-Stupid cat.

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Just when I was trying to get over the poor cat getting thrown in, you then had to do the same to Harvey! This Vincent seems a bit messed up, or maybe he doesn't exactly realise what would happen to the other kid in that hole. Either way, I do look forward to knowing his story.

Thanks for translating that for us. It was good.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 02:32:26 Reply

At 1/31/10 01:26 AM, puddinN64 wrote: So, I was just wondering: What percentage of fan fiction involves sex or NSFW themes? I say it's got to be over 75%.

I'd say that's a safe bet. I find most fan fiction is just either "This is what I'd do if i was in this story" or "this is what I want to see happen!" It's a little unsettling.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 02:41:38 Reply

At 1/31/10 02:32 AM, Skye-McCloud wrote:
At 1/31/10 01:26 AM, puddinN64 wrote: So, I was just wondering: What percentage of fan fiction involves sex or NSFW themes? I say it's got to be over 75%.
I'd say that's a safe bet. I find most fan fiction is just either "This is what I'd do if i was in this story" or "this is what I want to see happen!" It's a little unsettling.

so yeah basicaly over 75%.

I dont much like fan fiction mostly because its kinda lame. To put it in flash forum terms its like using sprites. I understand that when people realy like somthing they want to be a part of it but character development is like one of the biggest parts of a story and if you don't develope your own characters you either get stuck inside their creators box or you end up skewing the story so much that its just terrible.

im not trying to be mean and i have read some amazing fan fics.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 03:05:30 Reply

New regular, right here. I'm even bookmarking the page.

I'll probably lurk mostly, though.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 03:07:12 Reply

Yeah, it's really impossible to make fan fiction your own without the permission of the original creators. I used to read a lot of Star Wars books, and they were all written by people other than George Lucas, but at least they had his permission. -D.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 03:16:22 Reply

At 1/31/10 03:07 AM, Pathnine wrote: Yeah, it's really impossible to make fan fiction your own without the permission of the original creators. I used to read a lot of Star Wars books, and they were all written by people other than George Lucas, but at least they had his permission. -D.

I'm not sure those are concidered fan fics i think those people were commitioned (commisioned?commishoned?... Hired) to write those books. Idk.

look at me trying to look smart and sounding stupid again

The best fan fiction i have ever read was a diablo fan fic that didnt use any of the actual characters from the game but it referenced things like the dark wanderer the sin war and tyrael even made a cameo.

an Unrelated note. Is this a Writing only forum or an open literature forum. (it seems obvious i know) For example could i use this forum to discuss books ive read/enjoyed/hated or am i restricted to only discussing/writing/reveiwing origional works by NGers?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 03:52:44 Reply

Phew...This is gonna be pretty long...

THE TRANSFORMATIONS Pt 5

Sam grunted. He heard a scream and for some reason, he wanted to shred the guy who did. Stomping, Sam made his way to Jack's house. Jack and him were close buddies and he wondered if their relationship would ever be the same again.

Coming to a stop, he spotted a stickman in pants and a cartoonish army sergeant. The sergeant looked at him and attacked. Sam started firing using his cannon while the sergeant countered using a bazooka. The stickman watched silently, like trying to recall something.

Fred was anxious if he would die fighting. Attacking heavily, he saw the robot struggle. That gave him the courage to pound harder. Meanwhile, Sam's cannon had upgraded to twice the fire power. He then felt an urge to be on fours. The cannon slowly reverted back into the single shot.
Then, Fred started slashing.

Jack finally found out that that robot was Sam, looking at his typical 'street fighter' moves. Watching him acting like some crazy dog made him queasy. Suddenly, some green fingers came out of nowhere and started grabbing Sam. The fingers looked like it was quivering with pleasure. Jack realised it was now or never as Sam struggled futilely. Gripping his pencil, he slashed at the fingers.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 07:06:45 Reply

La la la la...

THE TRANSFORMATIONS Pt 6

Jim gripped tighter. The feeling was amazing. The metallic skin and the beeping of deep circuitry and the deeper still feeling of rust was all in a finger's tip. Suddenly, he felt the strike of hard granite and the black mark made his fingers feel all smooth and tender. Licking lips, he went towards the source.

Alan watched Jim silently. The way he touched stuff was very...weird. Seemed like he enjoyed touching everything. Gripping onto his mace, he wondered if he should join the brawl but resisted when the robot started to slash Jim and the soldier harder. He would live to fight another day.

Sam felt his head pump with oil. His hands were now knife sharp claws. Scraping on the Tank dude, he than focused his attention on the vege fingers. It was looking at him with widened eyes and then it grabbed him. Sam felt his body go colder then before as the vege curled around him. He gave it a desperate shred that met it's mark. The vege fingers was now currently unconscious.

Jack looked around sullenly. He did not approve violence. Apart from that pencil slash, he never hurt a person, let alone a fly. Catching the eye of the green knight, he thought of what would be the end of this. He was about to find out soon enough.

From that second, they suddenly disappeared. Right after a huge white beam of light from the sky. Some people a few miles away spotted a huge light exploded from a dot in the sky. The neighbours quietly watching the battle confessed that some being...a human, came down and took them during the burst of light. Dogs howled and cats gave disturbed purrs. Even goldfishes swam around restlessly.

Things were never going to be the same for Jim, Alan, Sam, Jack and Fred.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 08:15:01 Reply

At 1/31/10 03:52 AM, FlashCam wrote: Phew...This is gonna be pretty long...

You know, it might be a better idea for you to start your own writing thread then to post these in here.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 08:21:38 Reply

Ugh, i was really hoping to post something new today, but between work and coursework i dont see myself getting the chance.

I hate it when trivial things stand in the way of creativity.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 10:35:37 Reply

At 1/31/10 02:41 AM, Nateofwar wrote: I understand that when people realy like somthing they want to be a part of it but character development is like one of the biggest parts of a story

That's why I don't like writing it. If other people want to, that's fine, I just won't choose to read it. But for myself, developing the characters is one of the funnest things to do when I'm writing. I love thinking up their personalities, writing their histories and coming up with all their quirky traits. With fanfiction, someone else has already done that for me, and that's no fun.

At 1/31/10 03:07 AM, Pathnine wrote: Yeah, it's really impossible to make fan fiction your own without the permission of the original creators.

Well, fanfiction is consider parody, which is protected by Fair Use as long as you don't sell it.

At 1/31/10 03:16 AM, Nateofwar wrote: (commisioned?commishoned?
look at me trying to look smart and sounding stupid again

Firefox is telling me that it's 'commissioned'.

At 1/31/10 08:21 AM, megakill wrote: I hate it when trivial things stand in the way of creativity.

I hate it when I get the best ideas for songs, stories, etc when I'm in the middle of class or somewhere else where I can't start writing.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 11:44:33 Reply

I've been on a bit of a poetry kick lately because I have to teach poetry to 6th graders as a part of my education internship. Being well-versed in literature certainly makes life easier when you're an English teacher.


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At 1/31/10 10:35 AM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:
At 1/31/10 02:41 AM, Nateofwar wrote: I understand that when people realy like somthing they want to be a part of it but character development is like one of the biggest parts of a story
That's why I don't like writing it. If other people want to, that's fine, I just won't choose to read it. But for myself, developing the characters is one of the funnest things to do when I'm writing. I love thinking up their personalities, writing their histories and coming up with all their quirky traits. With fanfiction, someone else has already done that for me, and that's no fun.

To me, fan fiction is fair game as a writing style/genre provided that it is treated as a proper piece of fiction. I think a lot of the time, people can't be bothered thinking up original characters/plot, but still want to call themselves writers. "I'm a writer, but I only do fanfiction", that sort of thing. Fan fiction in general seems to be a style of writing that lacks originality. If we posit the situation of fan fiction as written by the fans, it seems that all professionalism in the writing is lost. Fans appear to lack the subtlety to criticise what they adore, and therefore the majority of the time, the characters in their versions of the stories exist in a world that is overly perfect, only to be thrown out of balance in a totally predictable way, resolving in yet more predictable sugar-coated fandom. That's all drawn from my perception of the "fan fiction" level of fandom. I think most fan fiction writers won't be well read, and therefore are less aware of plot-holes and cliches, which, of course, will drag a piece of fiction down.

I think fan fiction becomes most interesting in the hands of someone who is more experienced in the field of writing as a whole. I'm sure a professional author could write rings around xXxFinalFantasyxXx any day of the week if they felt so inclined to write a story in the style dubbed "fan" fiction. If you look at fan fiction on a more generalised definition, it contains characters/setting/events/etc that have derived from elsewhere. Get rid of all the homo-erotica and the txtspk stories, and you've still got something remarkably unoriginal. Take away the predictability in the plot/characters and then you can start talking. Of course, then there's the conundrum of remaining to the universe in which the original author created these characters. However, the author created characters, not people. Characters don't exist outside the text, whereas fan fictions sort of treat the characters as if they do. Not a good thing to do. They must remain characters. When you write them, they're your characters, they do what you write.

Here's where I like to introduce the anaolgy of cover songs to show how fan fictions can work. A cover song is a song that one band takes from an original band, often to pay their respects to the original band/song. Like fan fictions, there are good and bad cover songs. I think what makes for a good cover song and a good fan fiction is essentially the same. A cover song done in the same style is boring (aka "Sonic and his friends were playing in the forest and then something bad happened and then he ran fast and saved the day the end"). If the style doesn't mix with the original, it can sound like complete horse shit (aka furry/gay porn fan fics). The covers that work are the ones that adapt with the original to create something that sounds different, yet not wholly unpleasant. Fan fiction writers need that original/creative flair to their work to make it stand out.

If I may use my own story as an example, you will be able to see here that my story "Flonkerton" bares little resemblance to the original text from where my characters evolved; "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland". Of course, it is questionable whether anything but the names coincide with Carrol's famous text, but I'd be quite glad to argue why I think this is not so, and why my text is fit to be categorised as a fan fiction. Whilst it does not bare resemblance in plot, nor in setting to the aforementioned text, my story feeds off the symbolism of the characters, their context, to enrich my own (and might I add, unique?) versions of his characters. So even though my characters are not carbon copies of Carrol's, I use my reader's intertextual knowledge of Alice in Wonderland to pull together the confusion and nonesensicality (if such a word exists) from that text, to enrich the reading of my own. Granted, mine is not the most conventional fan fiction out there, but I believe that if a text can make those connections, that is enough to classify it as fan fiction, while still offering the author enough liberties to bend and shape the story to their own will, to create something wholly more original and of a greater quality than what is usually seen or expected in the genre.

I hope this little spiel sheds light on a few interested readers, as I know this train of thought has given me a more positive image of the bastard genre of the literary world, and now I feel more open to attempting to write the occasional fan fiction from time to time.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 12:34:13 Reply

While everyone is talking about the cons and cons of Fanfiction. I'd like to give my 2 pence worth.

Just read some of this quickly.

This is a fanfiction for Final Fantasy VII made by a woman who goes by the name Penfeather. Simply the most amazing writer I think I've discovered online, certainly in the fanfic world.

Sure, she didn't create the characters herself but it's actually more impressive HOW she develops the characters, making what she does with them believable to how they were in the game, yet she makes them her own at the same time. So she stayed true to the characters yet was orginal with it.

Seriously, just read a few paragraphs and try not to appreciate that fanfic writer.

Though I will also say; Yes there is A LOT of shit fanfiction out there. So much that should never even be allowed to be posted on any website ever, but there are great ones, and I see nothing wrong with fanfiction when the quality of writing is good enough to do the characters/story justice.


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fffffffffffffffffffffffffff.

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Oh, no, don't get me wrong. I do think that fanfiction is a legitimate writing genre, it's just not one that I like to write because it feels confining to me. If I'm going to be working with an idea of someone else's, I feel like don't have as much room to deviate from that idea as I would if it were my own. For some people it may be helpful to have an already-created base so that they have a direction when they're working on a story and other people may be doing it for fun, but I guess it's just not my thing.

Now, I say that I tend to avoid reading fanfiction because, although there are good ones out there, the majority of it, at least from what I've seen, is not. I think that's a combination of many fanfiction writers being inexperienced and it being a hard genre to write in successfully.


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At 1/31/10 12:35 PM, TehSlapHappy wrote: fffffffffffffffffffffffffff.

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Theres a sub-erm, thread for that

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At 1/31/10 12:34 PM, Gagsy wrote: Just read some of this quickly.

6/10

lol, I'm sorry, but its succumbing to the fan fiction thing where it assumes we know everything about the story. The worst part about most pieces of fan fiction is that they don't stand on their own. The point at which fan fiction becomes something else lies somewhere between this and the new Alice & Wonderland movie coming out this summer.


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At 1/31/10 12:48 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote: Small speech on fanfictions

I think it'd be ok to write a fanfiction as long as you just make up all of your characters instead of adding in the main characters if you're making your own story based on being in their world.


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At 1/31/10 01:24 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:
At 1/31/10 12:34 PM, Gagsy wrote: Just read some of this quickly.
6/10

lol, I'm sorry, but its succumbing to the fan fiction thing where it assumes we know everything about the story. The worst part about most pieces of fan fiction is that they don't stand on their own. The point at which fan fiction becomes something else lies somewhere between this and the new Alice & Wonderland movie coming out this summer.

Isn't that the point though? Fanfiction is usually read by those who thirst for more story involving the world or characters they grew so fond of. People don't usually stumble into the 6th book of a series and know everything about what's going on, do they? It's a bit condescending to sit there and think it's less well done simply because it relies on the constructs of the original author.

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At 1/31/10 02:14 PM, tigerkitty wrote:
At 1/31/10 01:24 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:
6/10

lol, I'm sorry, but its succumbing to the fan fiction thing where it assumes we know everything about the story. The worst part about most pieces of fan fiction is that they don't stand on their own. The point at which fan fiction becomes something else lies somewhere between this and the new Alice & Wonderland movie coming out this summer.
Isn't that the point though? Fanfiction is usually read by those who thirst for more story involving the world or characters they grew so fond of. People don't usually stumble into the 6th book of a series and know everything about what's going on, do they? It's a bit condescending to sit there and think it's less well done simply because it relies on the constructs of the original author.

Yeah my point was to mark it on the writing.

Fanfiction is fanfiction.

Like tiger says, you wouldn't just read a fanfic without having knowledge of what story the fic is about. It's like when they bring out books for certain tv series, like Dr Who or Star Wars, Star trek, whatever. You wouldn't generally pick one up unless you've seen and liked the series you saw on tv. It's basically the same thing, only one isn't professional, just done for fun from the writer.

I was using this one as an example to show that not all fanfiction writers are 13 year old 'bisexual' emo girls.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-31 15:34:48 Reply

I too, once did fan-fiction, horrible shit when re-read it at an older age lol. It may help some writers it may not. Though story wise, when a universe or monster is created, I think the creator should be in charge of deciding whether or not to continue. The creator is the only one who at least has the capabilities of expanding the plot/story simply because he knows his monsters better than anyone else.


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Hey guys, I posted the entire chapter of my story. go check it out!


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