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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 07:24:16 Reply

FYI boys and girls,

I'm starting to keep track of the various threads offering advice that have been posted on the forum, and other threads which will be of use/ interest to people who use the forum. I'm putting them on my user-page.

I've got the ones that I know of so far, but if I've missed some it'd be awesome if you could let me know and post the link to the thread as a comment on my user-page that'd be awesome.

Likewise if you've got some websites which you've found really useful/ interesting in aiding your abilities as a writer, then leave a comment and I'll add it to the list eventually :P

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 07:36:52 Reply

At 1/28/10 07:24 AM, Tri-Nitro-Toluene wrote: FYI boys and girls.....

Writing101 account?? Animation101 has been started.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 08:28:58 Reply

I just got one question about this forum. Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere, but I haven't read anything specific about it:

Are book and other literature discussions also supposed to go to this forum? Or is this forum solely for users who write stuff themselves and should literature discussions stay in the general forum?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 08:41:37 Reply

At 1/28/10 08:28 AM, Auz wrote: I just got one question about this forum. Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere, but I haven't read anything specific about it:

Are book and other literature discussions also supposed to go to this forum? Or is this forum solely for users who write stuff themselves and should literature discussions stay in the general forum?

This is an artist & creator forum, which means that if you want to discuss works in a light that does not pertain to improving or creating something or learning about creating it should be made elsewhere.

We locked a Book Club thread already. C & C has a book club, and its still appropriate for book clubs to be in General. Yes, there are stupid people who post in general, but you could drive them out if you consistently used large walls of text and big words if you really wanted to and made a concerted effort about it. I don't think a wi/ht invasion is such a bad idea, but I'd be curious if you could keep up a steady flow of well made topics and posts.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 09:06:27 Reply

At 1/28/10 08:41 AM, gumOnShoe wrote:
At 1/28/10 08:28 AM, Auz wrote: I just got one question about this forum. Sorry if this has already been answered somewhere, but I haven't read anything specific about it:

Are book and other literature discussions also supposed to go to this forum? Or is this forum solely for users who write stuff themselves and should literature discussions stay in the general forum?
This is an artist & creator forum, which means that if you want to discuss works in a light that does not pertain to improving or creating something or learning about creating it should be made elsewhere.

We locked a Book Club thread already. C & C has a book club, and its still appropriate for book clubs to be in General. Yes, there are stupid people who post in general, but you could drive them out if you consistently used large walls of text and big words if you really wanted to and made a concerted effort about it. I don't think a wi/ht invasion is such a bad idea, but I'd be curious if you could keep up a steady flow of well made topics and posts.

Alright. Well it was mostly just a curiosity question, I didn't really have any big plans or anything. I just thought that if books were also being discussed in here, I might check around this forum more often. And perhaps it would also be allowed then to discuss the storylines of movies and videogames, but I suppose we should keep those in the general and videogames forum as well then (or in the Cinema Club).

Thanks for the quick answer :)


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 09:34:00 Reply

(I think everyone's doing an into so...)

Hi I'm Hoogiman and I've been writing for a long time (as has everyone in some form or another).

I just wrote a poem that I thought I'd share.

I did the IB so (hopefully) I have some kind of appreciation of prose/poetry at the end of it. That was actually my first attempt at writing some kind of stand-alone work after the course so hopefully my writing has improved.

I also have a FanFiction.net account which is for my completely unintelligent, ignoring-literary-convention scrawlings. I also spent way too much time there.

I also animate, and I write scripts so creative writing skills really do help there, or I'd like to think so anyway.

(I'll also post the question I did before): Has anyone else here done some kinda extended literary analysis? Like are you doing an English major, taking lit subjects, doing creative writing??!

I'd like to apologise if none of the above made any sense, it's 1:34 AM here.

I'm an animator, a (dodgy back alley) VA and also a writer.

PM me if you want feedback on your writing, music or flash to get review'd by me. I'm pseudo-qualified. Maybe.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 09:50:53 Reply

At 1/28/10 09:34 AM, Hoogiman wrote: (I'll also post the question I did before): Has anyone else here done some kinda extended literary analysis? Like are you doing an English major, taking lit subjects, doing creative writing??!

I minored specifically in creative writing. The only thing that would separate me from from a major is that I never created a portfolio as a final project and I took a couple fewer classes focused in English literature. Probably a mater of 12 to 16 credit hours, no more.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 10:21:56 Reply

At 1/28/10 03:09 AM, Dobio wrote:
At 1/28/10 03:03 AM, HahaISuckMoreThanYou wrote: Btw: Not sure whether this is allowed or not, but are we allowed to post how-to's in the lit form or is that more appropriate for general? Not likely to write one since I'm not a good teacher-type, but might be something I could try :P.
Are you talking like, "HOW TO USE A SEMI-COLON!" type threads, because if you are, I'm going to kill you.

No no, I mean threads like "How to lock-pick" or "SQL Injection, the basics" or "How to bribe admins with gay porn."

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 11:37:44 Reply

At 1/28/10 09:06 AM, Auz wrote: And perhaps it would also be allowed then to discuss the storylines of movies and videogames, but I suppose we should keep those in the general and videogames forum as well then

I've mentioned it already, but I plan on creating a topic that would use part of this to provide some personal recommendations, hints/tips, as well as a chance for people to tell me, 'Oh, you've not read/seen/played this? Check it out, etc.'. What with the current confusion around book club type threads, I might message whatever I come up to a mod first and seeing what they think, but again like I've said, using other material to improve your own is somewhat integral here, I think.

Not that that would be particularly useful for more casual book/film/game lovers though.

At 1/28/10 08:41 AM, gumOnShoe wrote: Yes, there are stupid people who post in general, but you could drive them out if you consistently used large walls of text and big words if you really wanted to and made a concerted effort about it.

'gum, I should have you arrested.'

'Why?'

'For stealing my shtick!'

I love what this forum has done for my ego, and I haven't even posted anything creative yet.

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Apparently I was two seconds late getting out of bed for a fire drill just now (I know it's four-five PM here, shh). Upon being lectured with undertones revolving around 'if you die, then we're liable to get sued', the urge to respond with, 'YES DRILL SERGEANT' was quite strong. God bless this human shell.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 11:40:22 Reply

This is great. I'm Silver-Glint (Janine). I am forever writing stories, only problem is I never end up finishing them. At the moment I am writing a story, but have only done the first chapter. Since I was about 11 I have written stories. I have a highly active imagination. I love writing, it takes my mind off things, it makes me feel peaceful and proud. I enjoy it a lot :)


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 11:55:02 Reply

At 1/28/10 09:50 AM, gumOnShoe wrote:
At 1/28/10 09:34 AM, Hoogiman wrote: (I'll also post the question I did before): Has anyone else here done some kinda extended literary analysis? Like are you doing an English major, taking lit subjects, doing creative writing??!
I minored specifically in creative writing. The only thing that would separate me from from a major is that I never created a portfolio as a final project and I took a couple fewer classes focused in English literature. Probably a mater of 12 to 16 credit hours, no more.

I got screwed over by my undergrad university in that they wouldn't accept a majority of my transfer credit simply because they didn't want to bother finding their equivalence... if they had accepted them I could have gotten a double major in anthro and english.

I took a ridiculous amount of english classes and it annoys me I got no credit for them. Saying that, though, they were spectacular classes with first rate teachers and I don't regret taking them at all.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 12:21:22 Reply

Hey SexyLegs, you got a link to yourfic so I can read it?


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 14:02:37 Reply

I'm so glad this forum has finally arrived on NG. At the moment i don't have a great deal of time to spend on the forums but i will try and fit in some time to mooch around this one. I tend to write more for myself than anyone else as a form of relaxation. I may post a few originals on here when i get a wave of inspiration. Looking forward to getting to know the writers of NG.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 14:28:09 Reply

At 1/28/10 02:02 PM, Pink-Ninja wrote: I may post a few originals on here when i get a wave of inspiration.

I may do the same as well, only time will tell.

Looking forward to getting to know the writers of NG.

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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 15:31:14 Reply

At 1/28/10 11:40 AM, Silver-Glint wrote: I am forever writing stories, only problem is I never end up finishing them.

Haha, I have exactly the same problem. I have so many stories (and songs and flashes and paintings and...) that I haven't finished. The closest I got was my story "Faith" which got to around 30,000 words or so.

Anyhoo, I've been writing for ages now. The first story I ever wrote that wasn't for school (that I can remember) was a pokemon fanfiction when I was in elementary school (I'd like to say second or third grade, maybe). I was inspired by my sister older sister who was, at the time, writing a similar story in said genre. I wish I could go back and read it, but I can't read my handwriting.

Now I write mostly experimental short stories, social commentary and action/survival stories.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 17:17:47 Reply

At 1/28/10 03:31 PM, InsertFunnyUserName wrote:
Anyhoo, I've been writing for ages now. The first story I ever wrote that wasn't for school (that I can remember) was a pokemon fanfiction when I was in elementary school (I'd like to say second or third grade, maybe). I was inspired by my sister older sister who was, at the time, writing a similar story in said genre. I wish I could go back and read it, but I can't read my handwriting.

Funny, my first fanfiction or any kind of story I did was in fourth grade when I watched lots of Digimon and those kind of things, and I had a small imagination then, it's gotten so muc hlarger since then though.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 18:26:15 Reply

God!!! Sorry Agent Plox, just a word of advice, please make new paragraphs when people are talking. It's a hole hell of a lot easier on the eyes. That's the major downside to the internet, there really is no place where people can properly format their literary works. :(


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At 1/28/10 06:26 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: God!!! Sorry Agent Plox, just a word of advice, please make new paragraphs when people are talking. It's a hole hell of a lot easier on the eyes. That's the major downside to the internet, there really is no place where people can properly format their literary works. :(

Everyone writes differently, however in books that's how they tend to look except they can tab their paragraphs and here you realyl can't do that anyways. Will admit though, FBIpolux writes some very nice stories.


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Home from school, now it's time to read some stories :D


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 19:23:50 Reply

Just because we can't tab our paragraphs doesn't mean we can't double space the story now does it SCTE3? I think not. That's what I do with mine. Speaking of writers, where the hell is Idiot-Finder? you'd think that he'd flock here within seconds or minutes of the writing forum being released. Hmm.


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At 1/28/10 07:23 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Just because we can't tab our paragraphs doesn't mean we can't double space the story now does it SCTE3? I think not. That's what I do with mine.

As I said, we all post in our own style you know? Yea a lot of us prefer to double space but some single space it because they have a lot to write.

Speaking of writers, where the hell is Idiot-Finder? you'd think that he'd flock here within seconds or minutes of the writing forum being released. Hmm.

He's out living up to his name and looking for idiots of course.


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At 1/28/10 07:27 PM, SCTE3 wrote: As I said, we all post in our own style you know? Yea a lot of us prefer to double space but some single space it because they have a lot to write.

With artistic decisions aside, I'm going to make it known yet again (I'll shut up one of these days, but seeing as it's still a topic) that I prefer writers to double-space their paragraphs here, if only on the accounts that not doing so makes it harder to read without me copying and pasting it elsewhere and that because indenting doesn't work, it's sometimes tricky to see whether a paragraph has ended at all, if the last sentence of it stops towards the right side of the screen. I've personally advised writers that want to split up paragraphs in continuity with paragraphs taking place in an alternative timescale (or something) to separate the sections like this:

timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1time line1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline 1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1tim eline1timeline1timeline1timeline1timelin e1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1ti meline1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeli ne1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1t imeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1timel ine1timeline1timeline1timeline1timeline1 timeline1timeline1timeline1

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timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2time line2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline 2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2tim eline2timeline2timeline2timeline2timelin e2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2ti meline2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeli ne2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2t imeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2timel ine2timeline2timeline2timeline2timeline2 timeline2timeline2

, because a popular way of doing so usually would be to simply double-space. If double-spacing is to be used as a normal way of spacing paragraphs here though, then we might as well make appropriate alterations using ellipsis, stars, whatever.

While I think it was brushed upon, I'll say from my own point of view, that while we all like to experiment with different methods of writing because we're at just the right stage for it, some methods still need to be moderated a little bit. Many scriptwriting people and websites for example, make it painfully clear to beginners not to start with Pulp Fiction/Run Lola Run/Sliding Doors/Irreversible/Memento styled narratives, because they take a bit of skill to really use effectively (and in the case of Run Lola Run, it's used to the point where the plot is actually meaningless anyway, as it's used to convey a sort of 'choice and chance' feel to fantastic levels). If you really think you could handle something along those lines and you want to challenge yourself though, cool. I'd like to read what you get out of it!

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I just watched The Right Stuff, finally - it was very good, I recommend it. It's the sort of film to throw in the mouths of those that say artistic output in the '80s had no zeal. It's quite long for a standard film, but it never really tired me due to how well it was presented and how the characters made sense to their real-life counterparts (it's about real-life pilots and astronauts). I think part of it comes down Tom Wolfe's love for detail, so it can be somewhat easier to transfer across.

Speaking of Tom Wolfe, have any of you ever read any of his stuff? I have Bonfire of the Vanities waiting for me at home, but otherwise I'm new to him. I'm expecting it to be a challenging read going off reputation. I saw Brian De Palma's film version for class, which I'm aware isn't particularly true to the novel. It wasn't a 'bad' film on its own unlike how others have described it, though I could tell it was pretty over-budgeted.

Maybe I could call that effect Godfather III syndrome, or something.

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At 1/28/10 08:01 PM, Scarab wrote: With artistic decisions aside, I'm going to make it known yet again (I'll shut up one of these days, but seeing as it's still a topic) that I prefer writers to double-space their paragraphs here, if only on the accounts that not doing so makes it harder to read without me copying and pasting it elsewhere and that because indenting doesn't work, it's sometimes tricky to see whether a paragraph has ended at all, if the last sentence of it stops towards the right side of the screen.

I'll also note, if you really want to not do double spacing, then do others the favour of putting it all in a txt file or something, with the indentations, and the link it from off site (At least until we get the option to upload them to the forum or get the writing portal). Otherwise, double spacing your paragraphs helps everyone read your work a little easier.

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At 1/28/10 07:23 PM, SlntCobra1 wrote: Just because we can't tab our paragraphs doesn't mean we can't double space the story now does it SCTE3?

This aspect of internet forums bothers me because an otherwise short dialog can easily take up a page (in a word processor). It's not particularly a problem if the characters are long winded, but it gets a bit ugly if you have to double space a bunch of one-liners. But eh, I guess there's nothing we can do about it. I've gotten in the habit of double spacing all my stories so if I decide to post it up online, I won't have to go back and double space 30,000 words (or more) worth of paragraphs.

Another thing that I don't like is that I can't copy and paste text formatting such as italics into a post. Not so bad if you only have a short thing, but if you have 8,000 characters per post to sift through for the sake of adding in html, it gets tedious. But, again, nothing we can do.

At 1/28/10 07:27 PM, SCTE3 wrote: As I said, we all post in our own style you know? Yea a lot of us prefer to double space but some single space it because they have a lot to write.

This is true. Double spacing eats up characters. That's why I wish the text field didn't count spaces, like how microsoft word gives you statistics for character count with and without spaces.

At 1/28/10 08:50 PM, Skye-McCloud wrote: Otherwise, double spacing your paragraphs helps everyone read your work a little easier.

This. It is an eyesore, being that's we're staring at a computer screen and not written/printed text. The only excuse, I think, would be if you're trying to fit a certain section all in one post and you can do that if you remove the double spacing.


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I'm just wondering, once the writer portal opens

Which of those stories I have written on Fiction Press would be suitable enough to submit?


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Just popping my head in to say I like the "how to" thread idea and I think that'd be worthwhile to have become a sticky that could be updated as new resources become available, or with just basic stuff. I think that could be really helpful, but I'd love to see it as a sticky so it's not "competing" with other threads that new writers who'd like some pointers might not be aware of.


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 23:31:04 Reply

Hello, I'm RWT. I generally fill up a few pages or so nightly writing poetry or just free-writing, so I decided to share some of it with the world.

My favorite poets are Wordsworth and Shelley... and that's about all I have to say about me as a writer.

Oh, yes, and I abhore rhetorical writing. That should align me nicely against a few people.

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I will probably tend to single space on here. If it's difficult to read, just copy the text into notepad and blow it up. That's how I write all of my stuff. :-P


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My story/poetry thread. New stuff every week (maybe)!


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Response to Writing Forum Lounge 2010-01-28 23:56:36 Reply

After reading a few scripts, I can say that reading a script on Newgrounds SUCKS. The colors are just tweaking the hell out of my eyes.

It's not so much of a problem with the stories.

Folks, if you want to write a script-- consider getting Celtx.
I use Final Draft Pro, but Celtx is good. I've used it several times, and many professionals use it (I heard Diablo Cody used it for Juno.)

It's a software mostly for screenplays, but it's good enough for stageplays. I think they've made an update where people can distinguish the two formats.

Plus, it can export to PDF format... and people can upload there stuff on a PDF host site, and link it here.

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Wow, that was quite dark polux.


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