At 1/12/15 09:27 AM, TomFulp wrote:
Voting System Overhaul Proposal
Please respond with feedback!
As someone in the top 50 (not that that anyone cares about this now a days anyway), here's my two cents:
The new voting system will be universal for all Portals (games, movies, audio, art).
That's a fine idea, I think it'd be best to be able to have a simple, identical system for everything, makes the experience universal.
You will gain 2 XP for each vote, with a max of 10 XP daily.
That's fine too, it wouldn't affect the old school guys, and would make make it more attractive to new users.
On weekends you will be able to log up to 20 XP daily.
I'm mildly against this one, if we're changing things around, I'd prefer to keep things simple, but it's not a biggie and quite a few people seem very enthusiastic about it.
XP is logged instantly, no more five vote minimum requirement.
As per above, this is absolutely fine.
All existing score data will be backed up but no longer used. Review scores will become the new existing score data.
That seems a bit of a shame. I know that there's quite a few submissions that currently have highly distorted scores, but it is a lot of accumulated effort that will, inevitably, go to waste; it's an imperfect system, but it does a decent enough job and, like many have said, as the number of reviews is smaller, it'll affect a lot of poorly reviewed movies, although there's solutions to that.
Users can only vote once on each piece of content and can edit that vote whenever they want.
Hmm, this is a big change! But a quite reasonable one, I've thought for years that this was almost a necessity (although I suspect that abuse will still happen, just via spam accounts) and it should, theoretically, increase the quality of the votes, overall. Would changing the vote give XP, though? It's something to consider...
The score that shows in your review is the same score as your vote, there is just one location on the page to enter you score.
Sure, aside from losing the current scores, that's quite reasonable.
You can hide your score or submit a review without a score (many people are anti-scoring).
Would leaving a review without a score allow you to get XP? That'd be a nice touch, I'd like to do that, sometimes.
Combined voting and reviewing box, default appearance.
What you see after voting.
What you see when you click the review text field.
What you see after submitting your review.
Appearance-wise, they look fine.
Once you write a review, it always appears above the other reviews on the page, so you can see what you wrote and edit (or delete?) if desired.
That's a nice touch, definitely a good one. Just be careful as to how deal with the issue of 'deleting reviews' and then letting them get XP from re-reviewing it...
Overall, I'm fairly comfortable with these changes, but not sure how else the old-old school Newgrounders will feel... and, like someone else said, it'll be a shame to lose the Pico voting box.
At 1/12/15 11:20 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 1/12/15 11:14 AM, Noodle wrote:
Two things I feel like I've felt like NGs is lacking in the review department:The co-author response has always been an intended feature that never arrived. Hoping we will tackle that one this year.
It would be nice for there to be a little more back-and-froth. I like to reply to reviews when someone has a question or a quality piece of feedback. It would be nice if we had the ability to have a bit of a discussion. There might need to be a limit or 2-3 replies, or else people would spam 100s of responses.
I think the more important feature missing is for co-author responses. In collabs, someone could say "I like ___'s part the best". I remember when I was in some of my first collabs, that meant the world to me but I couldn't reply to thank the person. In other instances (like for games), they may have a question directly for someone with a co-author credit.
The back-and-forth option would definitely be nice. In retrospect I kinda wish reviews and blogs were built off the same system and both were set up better for back and forth discussion.
As per a previous post of mine, and I realize this is a bit repetitive of me, this is something I'd highly encourage, to make it easier to get more interaction between the creator and reviewers, and, specially, to make it easier for reviewers to know if the creator has read the review or not...