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Ok I tried this again last night with no real success. After about a half hour or so, I got the same very weak numbing sensation in my upper body. At one point I somewhat started to have a waking nightmare where I saw creepy faces floating around, but it made me laugh since I knew I was still awake and then I lost it. I kept trying to lay still for about 15 minutes, though all I felt was a sensation that I might be getting lighter, though I still had complete control of all my limbs and extremities. I never felt completely paralyzed, just compelled to not move because I wanted to get this to work.

Needless to say I'm very disappointed again and have no idea why I can't pull it off.

i did it oncemore and before i stoped i saw a white gazebo and flowers...strange aha

I tried again last night...

I got the waves of heat and my heart sped up and I had some hypnagogic sensations.

But no LDs.

I'll keep trying though. Apparently it's better to attempt this after several hours of sleep.

Ok I had very little success last night.

1st try- mosquito landed on my ear. (yeah nice timing to have a mosquito in my room)
2nd try- I was so relaxed my eyelids started to open slightly when I closed them it went away.
3rd try- was the best I felt some pressure upon my arms, which I had felt before but thought was the heat that was making my mustles feel relaxed, and my heart rushed.

Honestly how much time should I wait untill I start seeing things?

I think i may try to become lucid tonight but not with that technique but with the DILD technique which is just realsising your in a dream whilst dreaming via reality checks

It's weird, a lot of people are saying stuff about how their heart sped up, yet I'm very calm, almost in a state of nirvana

I tried it again last night, I don't really remember much of it though. I laid there for a good solid time. I was beginning to fall into the hallucinations because ha ha ha I started seeing spiders. But then I don't really get what happened because the next thing I know, I'm waking up on the other side of my bed from a Jurassic Park dream, one that wasn't a LD.

I guess I ended up getting bored and my mind fell asleep.

First thing I do when I'm LDing - rape the nearest person next to me.

I can't seem to get an LD. I get to the stage of body numbness (which is an awesome feeling) and then no further. I don't know why it won't develop. Here's what happens.

Lie down. Good tip for people who can't seem to keep their eyes closed - put a pillow or even a shirt over your eyes. It helps alot. Anyway, after awhile my arms start tingling and it spreads up my arms and into my body. Everythign feels out of proportion which feels weird but great. I feel like Calvin
from Calvin and Hobbes. Then after this, nothing happens. Once I saw weird blobs which were like ink being spilled on my vision and spread across my feild of veiw, which faded out and then came back again. But that's the closest i've got to seeing stuff.

Is there anything i'm doing wrong, or should I just keep trying?

I'm gona listen to music while I do this. Should be pretty cool.

wow i tried it, it is amazing! i started to dream but i was awake and i could feel myself flying and i could here wind rushing past my ears, it lasted for about 3-5 minutes then i started to get twitches in my leg and woke up completly.. it wassoo cool tho.

I just tried this again. I got slightly nearer to success this time though.

I started to feel like my arms and legs werent their anymore, as if they were numb, then I felt a heat wave and I could hear my heart beat in my ears beating faster and faster then I felt like I was dis-orientated and was rocking from side to side.

Has anyone else had any experiances like mine?
Am I getting any closer to a lucid dream?

I have plenty of time of school for the holiday so will practice make me better at it?

those were still better times, than my current times

At 3/25/08 04:49 PM, MissingNYC wrote: those were still better times, than my current times

I think its something you have just got to get the hang of.
Im getting better at it I swear.

Its annoying being so patient but the outcome should be awsome

At 3/25/08 04:48 PM, nazmdeh wrote: I started to feel like my arms and legs werent their anymore, as if they were numb, then I felt a heat wave and I could hear my heart beat in my ears beating faster and faster then I felt like I was dis-orientated and was rocking from side to side.

Has anyone else had any experiances like mine?

That's as far as I've gotten.

Okay, correct me if I'm wrong.

First, don't move for 20 minutes.
Second, your body falls asleep.
Third, vibrations.
Fourth, hallucinations.
Fifth, lucid dreams?

There betta be lucid dreams rawr.

I tried this last night.
I was laying like for half hour with my headphones.
After that i was like an statue, i dint move at all.
After something like 10 minutes i suppose, i started to feel numb, and there was this mega earthquake, it was some crazy shit!
after the earthquake like felling, i started to see like some big silver circles, and suddenly i was in a party, with really loud music, probably because of the headphones. It looked pretty real, so real it was scary, and if some one touched me in the dream, i felt the same in my body. After a while, not too much, my eyes started to open by themselves. I tried to ignore it, but the air crashed againt my eyes and i had to blink. The dream was over :(

But it was great and i plan to do it again tonight!!

I wanna try it, but I'm scared!!! I think I've experienced a sleeping body with a consious mind before, though. It's a really cool feeling. It didn't happen for very long, though, because I was thinking too hard and trying to move. It's funny, and it feels quite peaceful, for the few seconds I experienced it. I woke up, and I'm thinking: OK, I'm awake. Whoa, why can't I open my eyes? Oh my god, I can't move either! COOL! And then I woke up. It's very relaxing. I think that's the reason why I thought it was cool instead of being scared as hell. I'd like to experience it again, but I'm frightened of the nightmares, and VIBRATING! I would be so incredibly frightened!

Last night I had trouble falling asleep. I will use this method tonight.

For those of you who are interested in Lucid Dreaming, I have just the thing for you.Lars' Lucid Dreaming FAQ

u sit on ur bed and hit urself with a rock. wtf is so hard about that.

Couldn't this be consiterably dangerous? I mean, I know the dream itself has no effect on you, but people are saying it's so startlingly realistic. If it's as realistic as people say, what if you wake up and think you are dreaming, and you have the desire to conquer your fear of heights. So, you go jump off of a building. I mean, I know there are reality checks, but how long before you forget to check, or get sick of checking?

I tried this myself and well:
First I was lying in my bed, absolutely not moving a inch. it began to feel uncomfortable, but I was still not moving. all of a sudden, my body felt like it was shook by someone or something and i felt a little weird after that. I thought " Yeah, that´s it!" and concentrated on lying still. I couldn´t feel my feet anymore, but my left foot was moving a bit by itself. dunno how that was possible, but it wasn´t me. Then I fell asleep.
However, my Dream was very weird, but I felt like I didn´t manage it so I have a few Questions:

1. Is there a effective way of keeping your mouth getting too dry?
2. Can I listen to music since lying still is boring, even though I was excited?
3. Oh and I got a hard on, does it make any difference?

Thanks.

You guys are starting to ask some pretty hard questions that I find really hard to answer and that there may be no real answer to. The truth ultimately boils down to yourself. Success in this field does not come from text on a computer screen or usually any outside sources at all. Success comes from looking in at yourself, learning about yourself and learning what works for yourself. ANY TECH IS ONLY A GUIDELINE. Even the most rigorously strictly followed tech is only a string of ideas towards a given point. Applying those ideas to yourself is when you will succeed. What you have experienced in relation to this is 10x more important then anything I say.

Additionally, I am only one person and am thus a very limited source for information. Compound that with the fact that I'm a lucid natural and thus never went through the process of learning and you may begin to wonder When trying to get outside information, don't regard me and this thread as the one-stop know-all reservoir of information.

Lastly, before I answer questions I'd like to point out how difficult lucidity can be to achieve. It is a common occurrence to have people try for 2 weeks, have no success, give up and have a lucid that very night(Just because life enjoys fucking with us like that XD). Getting to SP does not guarantee lucidity either as many of you seem to have assumed. It's just an amazing stepping stone and a cool experience all in itself.

At 3/25/08 01:15 PM, YEAHmix wrote: Ok I had very little success last night.

1st try- mosquito landed on my ear. (yeah nice timing to have a mosquito in my room)
2nd try- I was so relaxed my eyelids started to open slightly when I closed them it went away.
3rd try- was the best I felt some pressure upon my arms, which I had felt before but thought was the heat that was making my mustles feel relaxed, and my heart rushed.

Honestly how much time should I wait untill I start seeing things?

Lots of factors. People have had experiences that range from 5 mins of waiting to 40 mins.

At 3/25/08 03:31 PM, super-sense wrote: I can't seem to get an LD. I get to the stage of body numbness (which is an awesome feeling) and then no further. I don't know why it won't develop. Here's what happens.

Lie down. Good tip for people who can't seem to keep their eyes closed - put a pillow or even a shirt over your eyes. It helps alot. Anyway, after awhile my arms start tingling and it spreads up my arms and into my body. Everythign feels out of proportion which feels weird but great. I feel like Calvin
from Calvin and Hobbes. Then after this, nothing happens. Once I saw weird blobs which were like ink being spilled on my vision and spread across my feild of veiw, which faded out and then came back again. But that's the closest i've got to seeing stuff.

Is there anything i'm doing wrong, or should I just keep trying?

Keep trying I guess. It sounds like theres some stuff going right =)

At 3/25/08 04:48 PM, nazmdeh wrote: I just tried this again. I got slightly nearer to success this time though.

I started to feel like my arms and legs werent their anymore, as if they were numb, then I felt a heat wave and I could hear my heart beat in my ears beating faster and faster then I felt like I was dis-orientated and was rocking from side to side.

Has anyone else had any experiances like mine?
Am I getting any closer to a lucid dream?

I have plenty of time of school for the holiday so will practice make me better at it?

Blind practice will do nothing. Experience and learning will help bring better success =)

At 3/25/08 04:55 PM, Sk8erGirl14 wrote: Okay, correct me if I'm wrong.

First, don't move for 20 minutes.
Second, your body falls asleep.
Third, vibrations.
Fourth, hallucinations.
Fifth, lucid dreams?

There betta be lucid dreams rawr.

More like:

1. Don't move
2. ????
3. ????
4. ????
5. ????

At 3/25/08 06:06 PM, NewGMan wrote: Couldn't this be consiterably dangerous? I mean, I know the dream itself has no effect on you, but people are saying it's so startlingly realistic. If it's as realistic as people say, what if you wake up and think you are dreaming, and you have the desire to conquer your fear of heights. So, you go jump off of a building. I mean, I know there are reality checks, but how long before you forget to check, or get sick of checking?

Trust me, if you know it's a dream YOU KNOW ITS A DREAM. It's a feeling that simply isn't replicated in real life. That, and you'd be pretty stupid to do something like that... really. That argument against LDing carries about as much weight as the argument that violent video games are the source for violence. =P

At 3/25/08 06:31 PM, Racoonmario wrote: I tried this myself and well:
First I was lying in my bed, absolutely not moving a inch. it began to feel uncomfortable, but I was still not moving. all of a sudden, my body felt like it was shook by someone or something and i felt a little weird after that. I thought " Yeah, that´s it!" and concentrated on lying still. I couldn´t feel my feet anymore, but my left foot was moving a bit by itself. dunno how that was possible, but it wasn´t me. Then I fell asleep.
However, my Dream was very weird, but I felt like I didn´t manage it so I have a few Questions:

1. Is there a effective way of keeping your mouth getting too dry?
2. Can I listen to music since lying still is boring, even though I was excited?
3. Oh and I got a hard on, does it make any difference?

Thanks.

1. Theres tips in the original linked thread
2. Yep
3. nope

I'm loving all the success stories you guys are having too <3 I actually thought this wouldn't catch very well but I'm pleasantly surprised.

Whelp, I managed to do this last night by accident. I tried staying still, but I fell asleep. I remember waking up about 4 hours later, but when I awoke, my whole body felt numb and light. It was actually pretty cool for a while

But then, I started hearing things in my head. Like a soft voice whispering. Didn't really freak me out since I did quite a bit of research on it before attempting it. However, I suddenly started getting the feeling of someone floating over my bed. Then, it felt like people were standing around my bed and watching me sleep. Then I started having freaky visions of aliens and zombies, so I forced myself to move. I'm gonna try it again tonight and see if I can actually stay awake and, hopefully, have a lucid dream.

Aren't you supposed to have your eyes open while you do this?

and btw, once I can't feel my legs my body goes into a sudden shock and I jump everytime so It doesnt work for me. :(

At 3/25/08 07:14 PM, Clock-Ninja wrote: Aren't you supposed to have your eyes open while you do this?

=O

I dunno where you got that idea but they're supposed to be closed. Read the first post/link in first post again.

I made a club page where people can post their questions, stories and experiances because sooner or later this thread will be knocked off the front page and it cant be bumped all the time can it.

Sorry if you wanted to do this arby, I just thought it would be a nice idea?
Its up to you guys but heres the thread if anyone is interested.

At 3/25/08 07:36 PM, nazmdeh wrote: I made a club page where people can post their questions, stories and experiances because sooner or later this thread will be knocked off the front page and it cant be bumped all the time can it.

Sorry if you wanted to do this arby, I just thought it would be a nice idea?
Its up to you guys but heres the thread if anyone is interested.

Not at all =) I'm happy to see you guys going out, pursuing this and telling others. A club would be awesome and I may drop in every once in a while if it picks up.

Taking initiative is never a bad thing =P If I hadn't taken initiative and made this thread... ;P

At 3/23/08 04:33 PM, Arby wrote: For you ADD kids, the TL;DR

Uhh, still, TL;DR.