GONNA TRY TO TACKLE THIS, PART 1:
At 22 minutes ago, CorpseGrinderClock wrote:
Alright I just read the whole bloody thread (all 627 replies)
One of the things that bothers me the most is that almost all the positive stuff is along the lines of
At 7 hours ago, TwistedPersonality wrote:
The new level icons are SWEEEEET.
AND YOU FRIGGING ADDED THE :3 FOR THE BBS.
I'M GONNA DIE.
yea shut the F up guys be constructive
I don't really see anyone saying that things like navigation and function are improved at all, they're all saying how they like the colors and the icons and the sparkly nonsense.
At 18 hours ago, InnerChild548 wrote:
where's the mature section?
it's actually EASIER to find porn now, i been jacking all day sonnn
Credit where credit is due, damn proud of you cats for getting rid of this, good job it really is a step in the right dicec....
At 18 hours ago, JoSilver wrote:
OH god... For a sec there... I was afraid you guys got rid of this......oh. Never mind.
everything by everyone
Anyway, I'm not really seeing anyone talking about improvements in the function or the navigation, quite the opposite.
So Tom I noticed you've been responding to things and I only quoted criticisms you hadn't responded to yet that I personally agree with:
At 14 minutes ago, ultimatum479 wrote:
So, exactly when was having only pictures on each portal, instead of actual DESCRIPTIONS, a good thing? It's an improvement to have to click on every single game or video in order to know what you're getting into?
because nobody reads descriptions, and those who say they do are full of shit. there is NOBODY SITTING ON THE FRONT PAGE GOING: "Hmmm 'Tony and Jessica go for a walk in the park.' INTERESTING!" we live in an ADD driven society - 99% of the world clicks first and asks questions later. NO I DIDN'T RESEARCH but come on - the old way was nothing more than peripheral clutter. the limited descriptions for movies and games are bullshit either way - i don't see how "MR. FART GOES TO THE MALL AND FARTS" or "CAN U DEFEND PLANET EARTH FROM THE ALIEN?" has any relevance. either way, there's a change coming soonish to help make each submission more relevant, and another change if i can have my way later on. if anything, it needs TITLE, ETMA ratings and maybe the SCORE, not useless DESCRIPTION text. this is only MY opinion, of course.
At 19 hours ago, PoopyMcButt wrote:
I don't care for the background art, i'd prefer something basic tbh.
this is opinion, not something that needs to be addressed
At 18 hours ago, jqzjqz wrote:
I think the 'Classic Portal' deserves its own link in the navigation menu.
not happening, and thems the dice. it's still there, for those who sank into familiarity and can't figure out how to browse the site otherwise. besides, when lit comes, it'll only cramp shit further and make you hate the navigation that much more. the new way of handling shit will eventually prove it's usefulness.
it's funny how the people we kept the classic portal around for are the only ones bitching about it. it's not in the main nav, no - but it's still up there TWICE, and you can access it just as fast as you could on the previous design (half a second slower when you consider the hover) BUT IT'S STILL ONE CLICK, SO THE ARGUMENT IS POINTLESS
either way lemme ask you - as a content creator, which one of the following do you feel would bring your production more traffic, from a general, global audience?
CLASSIC PORTAL > Your Movie
MOVIES > Your Movie
what the hell is a classic portal? if you really get to thinking about it, the term 'portal', although coined by us, probably did more harm than good when it came to general understanding. if you're just talking about ADDING it and not replacing it, that would just further confuse people and clutter the nav - everyone's gonna wonder why there's duplicate methods to handling submissions, why some submissions are over there, while the same ones are over there, why don't we just pick one way, yadda yadda. we can't pick one way, because we want a world where movies, games, art, and audio get the individual prominence they deserve, as opposed to them all being thrown into the same dumpster.
but yeah, lets add it - that way i get to hear 'the nav was already complicated - NOW IT'S MORE COMPLICATED!' lose lose, man.
At 18 hours ago, DancingTomato wrote:
This reminds me a lot of Josh Bend's old site Retrogade.
wasn't retrogade based around NG's design first? just...orange and green? COULDA SWORE! either way, i'd love to see a screenshot, cause as far as i can remember, that shit was a hot, tacky mess that looked AND worked like a pile of broken nerf guns. p.s. fuck josh bend, he drinks pee for breakfast
At 15 hours ago, Andragon wrote:
Hovering over submissions in the portal used to give me a quick snapshot. Right now all it shows is the ratings.
this could be cool to re-add - that flew under the radar during development, and i dunno how. i'll mock something up to put it back. although, developing a feature for a section of the site that people will continue to use less and less seems like a waste of time...you could argue that they're using it less because of less FLASH PORTAL prominence, but i honestly think it would have phased itself out naturally, either way.
BUT IT'S NG'S LEGACY, YOU CANNNNNN'TTTTT DO ITTTTTTTTTT!!!
At 13 hours ago, richmansgirl wrote:
I liked it better when all my info/stats were on my 1 userpage.
though it's not immediately clear, this was done to make each section more...sectiony. for example, if you visit someone's GAME page, personal stats have no business there. the only shit that should be there is GAME related shit. so you'll see their game trophy list, and other GAME-related-shits-n-stats, specific to that user, maybe put medals earned there, as well. (we haven't fully fleshed this one out yet.)
this is also the start of a larger plan to make the STATS page more comprehensive and important per-user. (both personally AS the user, and for visitors). that kinda data eventually won't fit into a lil' sidebar-box. i'll talk to tom about adding some quickstats to the MAIN tab - level, rank, yadda yadda, i can see that coming in handy.
At 8 hours ago, razorbladesigh wrote:
the main/community page backgrounds make us look like a 13 year old hangout.
again, opinion (and 15 year old, MINIMUM)
Accurate though it may be, I prefer moving towards progress.
At 7 hours ago, shenzu wrote:
I don't know why you had to separate the games from the movies. It was very obvious before which one was which by just looking to the left of the title and looking at the symbol.
i personally prefer it this way. in addition to what i said above, (prominence to each form of media), one of the biggest problems with the old way was that movies and games (rather, the producers of said movies and games) weren't really getting much of a fair shake. for one example, let's say Abobo's Butt Storm or whatever the fuck was my favorite game on NG - well nobody would really know that if movies were the spotlight of my favorites. why the hell are they clumped together? if i'm in the mood to watch a movie, why the fuck is this site filling my eyeballs with game options? it's hard to see at first, but over time i feel like the seperation will do us good, allowing for authors to shine where they're best at.
either way, a game or movie submitted to NG won't always be flash, keep that in mind. clumping them together used to work just fine, but you gotta roll with the times...there's lots of ways to make games, and a VIDEO in the FLASH portal seems a little silly - from a viewing AND submission standpoint.
p.s. MOVIES and GAMES are a little more explanitory than FLASH - i'd wager there's still a lot of people on the internet who search for MOVIES when they're looking for something to watch.