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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 01:10:52 Reply

corpsegrinderclock is really gay

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 01:31:44 Reply

At 3 hours ago, Stamper wrote: so yeah, games shouldn't be thrown together with movies, in my opinion. i mean why stop there, throw all the art and audio in there as well, make shit even harder to find. I'D LOVE TO GO PLAY A GAME AND ACCIDENTLY PULL UP SOMEONE'S SHITTY SONIC THE HEDGEHOG DUBSTEP REMIX.

Stamper stop being stamper and then come tell me about your stuff being unnoticed or hard to find.

and you know - a lot of game makers get pissy when they're beat out by a porno cartoon on the same day.

Yeah better they get beat out by a porn game instead...?

Like I said, you could have them in different columns, you could have an award for "Featured movie" and "Featured game" but that doesn't mean that the additional clutter, navigational complication, and separating the groups like that makes more sense somehow.

And, speaking of switching pages, a separate page for submissions that are under judgment seems superfluous as well.Again, more clicking that could be avoided.
i am a little on the fence about how we handle this

Oooh ooh! I have an idea! Pick me pick meeeeeeeeee

So for starts, the top navigation bar. It's called mystery meat navigation, and it's a bad idea. Yes I know Google did it, but one of the things we all liked about Google was the simple hyperlink-based navigation. Google fucked up doing this, I'd urge you not to make the same mistake.
i don't understand the correlation between our nav and google's...honestly, elaborate

I'm talking about the nav thing at the VERY top next to your name, where it's tiny little symbols with no titles and you have to hover over each one to see what it does. I wasn't referring to the main nav menus, though having one-click visually apparent nav is better in my book than a bunch of menus you have to hover to see if it leads where you want to go.

Obviously on that second point comes the design debate of whether or not "more sectiony" is "more gooder", and you already know my position on that.

Man, regular or not...you cannot deny that the old site was a patchwork of broken features and crappy bullshit with duct tape slapped all over it. YOU CANNOT.

Hey I don't know from a coding perspective, my knowledge in that regard is negligible, but from a useability perspective a lot of it was quite intuitive, and in this redesign was made less so. Editing your profile, submitting content, seeing all the games and movies and collections...all of these things were visually apparent without having to hover over an ambiguous symbol or scroll through menus or click through multiple pages, and there was nothing wrong with that.

In fact, you talk about it all being that I'm just used to the other stuff...well remember, you've been working on this for a while, you're used to this. We're not, we're saying it's unintuitive because we're not finding it to be intuitive on our first impression. Maybe that's worth thinking about.

man fuck strawberry clock, that nagga can B my nuts

YOU WANT SOME OF THIS, MOTHAFUCKA?

Redesign 2012 Complete!


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: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:03:02 Reply

This is awesome.

The movies and game split was a great idea.

The filtering is FUCKING AWESOME, makes it so easy to find what I'm looking for, or just a general list of things I might be interested in. Perfect.

Looks more modern too.

Me gusta / 10

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:08:00 Reply

I love how my IE browser cuts off the comments by restricting them to their tiny boxes if they are too long and rant-like.
And yeah, I know, who uses IE anymore?

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:25:30 Reply

One glaring thing I noticed is that I can't change my icon/user picture at the moment. I don't know how long that'll last, but it is a minor inconvenience.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:35:43 Reply

Good god the sounds on a submission's page if you don't have autoplay are annoying and almost earpiercing.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:38:09 Reply

Yeah, really not fond of the noisey new player.

The old click-to-load one was simple and good. Warn't broke, don't fix it!


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: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:40:48 Reply

dear tom wheres the mature button?


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:43:29 Reply

Also. Two pretty simple things one could add:

1. A "Respond To Topic" button on the bottom of the page.
2. A "Classic Portal" button, maybe with the account buttons on the top if you're not gonna put it on the header? The Portal is basically the RSS feed of submissions on this site and keeping it confusingly in 2 different menu boxes and less than a simple click away really gets to me.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 02:53:36 Reply

it looks like pikachu took a shit every where.. at least let us have the ability to change the background to the Pre-redesign background.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 03:03:42 Reply

Something has been bothering me. When I go about making my daliy votes, I can't tell how many votes I have left before the system says it's enough. Is it something I'm not seeing?

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 03:17:09 Reply

Pretty cool redesign.

When will we be able to receive EXP again? Is it just me or is the EXP system down at the moment? I have been grading movies and games but with no change to my EXP. Tried researching the problem but couldnt find an answer.

Anyways, keep up the great work!


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 03:20:08 Reply

At 29 minutes ago, CorpseGrinderClock wrote: SHIT AND STUFF

u win maaaaan shut up trick we're working on it

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 03:26:30 Reply

site's looking good. very cool. seems to be moving a lot faster for me! as for negatives or criticism. none here. you guys are the primo animation site on the web as far as i'm concerned. i'm here for the long haul. and me being a long haul trucker, too, that helps i guess. lol.

again, site looks good yo.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 04:52:45 Reply

At 1 hour ago, Stamper wrote:
At 29 minutes ago, CorpseGrinderClock wrote: SHIT AND STUFF
u win maaaaan shut up trick we're working on it

<3


At 6/24/15 11:11 PM, TheGamechanger wrote:
: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 04:53:53 Reply

At 2 hours ago, Ogre-D wrote: I love how my IE browser cuts off the comments by restricting them to their tiny boxes if they are too long and rant-like.
And yeah, I know, who uses IE anymore?

get firefox or chrome.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 05:04:05 Reply

I don't care what anyone else says, using sepia tones makes the site look like someone shit all over it.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 05:17:18 Reply

Looks very nice tom :D


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 05:47:59 Reply

I hate how I have to hover over submission to see the author and title. I can't even see the file size etc.

It shows a sign that a movie/game is under submission. Yes I know that! It says I can disable the sign in my user configuration but i can't find it anywhere.

When I vote it doesn't say how many points I've earned and how many more I need for the next level like it used to. It doesn't even show how much more voting power I get from my blam/saved rank.

Where is the learn flash section?

I don't like it :(

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 05:49:29 Reply

This looks amazing, Tom. Good job guys.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 06:02:46 Reply

*Looks to the right*

Lol boobs.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 06:35:44 Reply

This is Purely Awesome.. Jaw Drop*

We Rock Newgrounds! Can't Touch This!

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 07:26:07 Reply

I CAN'T ACCEPT CHANGE.

Looks good.

SCREW THIS.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 07:32:23 Reply

I just wanna throw in my 50 cents :)

First of, good overall job on the redesign, i must admit i was a big fan of the portal, but as stamper mentions, it's still there, and i guess i can get used to the new sorting as well...
BUT!
I have some "complaints" as well, naturally, seeing as I've been a member for 12 years i might be a bit nostalgic, making it hard to accept changes, but there are also some functions that i purely miss because I found them nice and helpful!

First of - I have to agree on the short descriptions on the front page, they definitely needs to come back!
We might live in an ADD world, which means that no one gives a fuck about gaming instructions, most people skip the cut-scenes in games and no one ever reads the authors comments, but the short description is actually one of the things that people DO read to get a hint about the game.. I kinda adds some personality to the piece.. For example, let's say I'm working on a game, and i might be a horrible artist, but my game-play and design makes up for it by being so well thought-out that everyone who doesn't try it will be missing out on a lifetime experience.. Without the description, no one is ever gonna click the ugly icon on the front page with the game title "beat that lvl!"
Same goes for movies with touching/incredible plots, but bad graphics - They simply don't get a chance..!

Next up - I'm missing the "more from this author" rollout-button. And no, it is NOT that same as just going to the authors page and looking though his profile, as that is a tedious job, like you say - ADD world! With this button you could easily find "Hugo the happy sailor 1" when you where on the view page for "Hugo the happy sailor 2" Also you could see what else this artist had contributed with, and all the movie&game titles where there to see (screw icons on this one!).. I miss that a lot!
I take it that this feature has been removed because of the fact that you don't want to mix everything together (like separating games & movies) so my idea would be to maybe split it up into categories, so the rollout button would look kinda like this:
default: More from this author
rollout:
---MOVIES---
My first flash movie
Whatever movie 1
Whatever movie 2
---GAMES---
Shoot retards
The killer rabbit
My pointNclick adventure
---ART---
Grey unicorn
Mai p3n|s
---AUDIO---
Kick that donkey
Long way to accapella
Rappin' crappin'

Well i think those two are the biggest/only problems with the new site.. I might find more as i browse along, but these two are, IMO a major setback :/

But, hey congratulations on an awesome redesign! Don't see this as a diss, but as constructive criticism please :)
And I'm glad to hear that it's making you guy's jobs easier :)

Hope to hear from ya', it's nice to know that you consider advice given from fans
(though I'm sure you must've thought about most of these things already) and I'm sorry, but i have to confess i didn't read though all 26 pages before posting :/ (only some of them)

Cheers - Hexy


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 07:53:55 Reply

At 2 hours ago, citricsquid wrote: corpsegrinderclick real talk

Rock the casbah


At 6/24/15 11:11 PM, TheGamechanger wrote:
: CorpseGrinder is the Undertaker of the Portal.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 08:19:23 Reply

I have been floating around newgrounds for years, Never said a word about site upgrades and redesigns till now. I hate this redesign with a passion, I have always been of the mind set if it works well and is simple don't change it.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 08:25:19 Reply

Big fan of the redesign guys! Thumbs up from me.


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 08:53:02 Reply

I can't find anything.

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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 09:14:31 Reply

One more time...

where my banner go?


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Response to Redesign 2012 Complete! 2012-02-09 09:22:53 Reply

Lots to say.

First. Project system is awesome. It will make beta-testing really easy to manage. Without it I'd have to develop my own way of only letting certain people play a game.

I miss the forum timestamps. This "about 2 hours ago" crap is just dumb. You've got to be at least 13 to use NG, I think that's old enough to be able to do some simple subtraction. It's just too vague this way, it almost feels condescending. We could choose to display at specific timezone maybe. Possibly both an accurate timestamp and the relative time.

Overall there's just not enough information. It's too hard to figure out the score of a submission. And the frontpage is just crappy. It's a bunch of images that you need to mouseover just to get a title of the movie. Youtube gives more info than that! Youtube! It doesn't even give you the author's name. Even after clicking you have to scroll way down the page to see who made it. I really need the short descriptions to tell what a submission is about. Otherwise I have no idea what a submission will be without clicking on it. If that doesn't change I'm just going to start putting text in the preview images for all my movies and games, and I suggest others do the same.

The other submissions by this author dropdown needs to come back. Tom might prefer to go to their userpages, but when you're not 30 feet from the servers it takes too long.

One thing I'm not sure how I feel about is the new auras. I'm both a Game Developer and an Animator so I don't know which to choose. It's also a problem when I credit myself in submissions, so I just use the generic author. I'll just have to remain a blank slate for now.

The background art seems too colourful to me. I'd prefer it in greyscale. And when you scroll down a page past the art it just looks ugly like someone put a tint on the old dark grey backgrounds. Not a huge issue really, it won't affect my enjoyment of the site too much. It really depends on what people new to the site think of it, it's really for them, as the rest of us will start ignoring it after a day or two.

Small issue. After clicking the box that pops up before the flash plays, it takes moment for the flash to actually show up.

If it's only one vote per submission per user, do nonusers still get to vote? And how is tha kept track of? Just permanently storing their ip address?

I really like the recent notifications do-dad. It's something newgrounds has been needing for a while. I recall a friend favouriting an author and assuming it was like a youtube subscription, and having never questioned it before, I wondered why it wasn't.

Another thing I like is not having to load a new page to look at more reviews. Another little detail NG needed to keep up with other big sites.

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