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At 7/28/09 06:30 PM, michelinman wrote:
LUCKYYYY. my unit did a 15 month deployment to iraq right before i got there, and a year later they went to afghanistan for a year long deployment. they'll be back in february. they told me a week before i was supposed to go that i couldn't because of my hearing loss. such bullshit. i'm still pissed as hell over it.

Yea I know those deplyments are just way too long in the Army. How did you lose your hearing anyway?

At 7/28/09 07:29 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 7/28/09 06:30 PM, michelinman wrote:

Yea I know those deplyments are just way too long in the Army. How did you lose your hearing anyway?

in a way that was entirely worth it. the greatest weapon in the military. i was a 50 cal gunner for about 8 months, and after that we had a guy that used to be a driver that wasn't in as good as shape as me, but was damn good with the 50, and we were short a dismount, so i sacrificed it for an m249 and a dismount slot for a change of scenery. those little rope seats for the gunner in humvees are uncomfortable as shit. haha. my ears haven't stopped ringing since june of 08 though when we were doing a live fire exercise and i dumped 5 cans on this house in like 2 minutes. haha. i forget about it until someone points it out.

At 7/28/09 07:39 PM, michelinman wrote:
my ears haven't stopped ringing since june of 08 though when we were doing a live fire exercise and i dumped 5 cans on this house in like 2 minutes. haha. i forget about it until someone points it out.

Didn't they teach you to put earplugs in lol.

Awesome picture.

At 7/28/09 07:39 PM, michelinman wrote:

At 7/28/09 07:29 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 7/28/09 06:30 PM, michelinman wrote:

Yea I know those deplyments are just way too long in the Army. How did you lose your hearing anyway?

in a way that was entirely worth it. the greatest weapon in the military. i was a 50 cal gunner for about 8 months, and after that we had a guy that used to be a driver that wasn't in as good as shape as me, but was damn good with the 50, and we were short a dismount, so i sacrificed it for an m249 and a dismount slot for a change of scenery. those little rope seats for the gunner in humvees are uncomfortable as shit. haha. my ears haven't stopped ringing since june of 08 though when we were doing a live fire exercise and i dumped 5 cans on this house in like 2 minutes. haha. i forget about it until someone points it out.

That is awesome. Didn't you wear ear protection though? or is it just not that effective? I always wondered if you can put on music while driving a humvee or a tank or something like that. i couldnt imagine anything cooler than shooting shit with hip-hop or death metal blaring in the background. So can you? or is that a stupid question.

you know what would be cool Delta Force.

At 7/31/09 03:57 PM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: you know what would be cool Delta Force.

Bleh, Marine Corps infantry is just as good.

I'm in Air Force ROTC at my college, does that count as being in the military?

At 7/31/09 05:35 PM, physicsman09 wrote: I'm in Air Force ROTC at my college, does that count as being in the military?

No.

That's an attempt at being in the military.

Seriously, I laugh every time I see one of you guys on campus, cause either your uniform is all fucked up and nasty, or you look nasty, or you just plain think you're the shit.

If you're not a pompous dick, I'll let you in.

whats the the beef with you guys and officers really?

At 8/2/09 12:29 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: whats the the beef with you guys and officers really?

I don't really have a beef with officers, he's a ROTC, not yet an officer.

I want to be an officer myself. Problem with most of them, especially fresh butter bars out of college is they think they're the shit, but they know just as much at a fucking private.

At 8/2/09 12:37 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 8/2/09 12:29 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: whats the the beef with you guys and officers really?

I don't really have a beef with officers, he's a ROTC, not yet an officer.

I want to be an officer myself. Problem with most of them, especially fresh butter bars out of college is they think they're the shit, but they know just as much at a fucking private.

oh okay yeha its those college kids if I plan on being a officer I think i'll just attend a millitary college and go through it that way even though I think being a Warrent officer would be way cooler.

At 8/2/09 12:37 AM, SpiffyMasta wrote:

At 8/2/09 12:29 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote: whats the the beef with you guys and officers really?

I don't really have a beef with officers, he's a ROTC, not yet an officer.

I want to be an officer myself. Problem with most of them, especially fresh butter bars out of college is they think they're the shit, but they know just as much at a fucking private.

What's the difference between a Second Leiutenant and a PFC?

PFCs been promoted.

I hated the army the first time I was in Iraq, those assholes would always shoot at us, and we never had comm with them for some reason. Second time was a cakewalk.

At 8/2/09 02:28 AM, Dante-Son-Of-Sparda wrote:
oh okay yeha its those college kids if I plan on being a officer I think i'll just attend a millitary college and go through it that way even though I think being a Warrent officer would be way cooler.

Yea, Warrant officers are so much more respected because they have to know what the hell they are doing and they have experience already before becoming officers.

At 8/2/09 02:37 AM, Wonko-the-Sane wrote: What's the difference between a Second Leiutenant and a PFC?

PFCs been promoted.

I was a contract PFC lol. I totally agree with your point though.

I hated the army the first time I was in Iraq, those assholes would always shoot at us, and we never had comm with them for some reason. Second time was a cakewalk.

Yea I'm tellin you, some people just don't know what they are doing, yet think they know. It drives me bazonkos, cause you know you can't say anything.

I've spent a total of 2.5 years over there. None of that pog s&*T either. I was a medic assigned to the infantry. We spent 12 hours a day at least patrolling. after my second tour I was glad to be back for good. Too many stories I can't tell anyone. If you haven't gone don't be in any hurry too go. If you arn't infantry you will probably never leave the wire, so don't talk it up. All it is is a year long shit show where you prove that you can go for a year without going to bars, and restaurants and stuff. It has to be done, but like I said, if you arn't infantry don't talk it up, it will be a waste of your life.

At 8/3/09 01:30 AM, Alwngnome wrote: I've spent a total of 2.5 years over there. None of that pog s&*T either. I was a medic assigned to the infantry. We spent 12 hours a day at least patrolling. after my second tour I was glad to be back for good. Too many stories I can't tell anyone. If you haven't gone don't be in any hurry too go. If you arn't infantry you will probably never leave the wire, so don't talk it up. All it is is a year long shit show where you prove that you can go for a year without going to bars, and restaurants and stuff. It has to be done, but like I said, if you arn't infantry don't talk it up, it will be a waste of your life.

I wasn't infantry and I'd be outside the wire for a minimum of two weeks at a time. Most I was outside was almost two months. I hate when infantry think that they're all hard and shit. Other people have jobs too.

I wasn't infantry and I'd be outside the wire for a minimum of two weeks at a time. Most I was outside was almost two months. I hate when infantry think that they're all hard and shit. Other people have jobs too.

Yeah other people have jobs, But I don't know how many times we bailed pog units out. Engineers, MPs EOD. Sure they did their part out there, but They would get shot the heck up, a lot. My unit ran 7000+ comb at patrols in Iraq. we had 44 wounded and no one killed. We were the first regular army infantry battalion to go a full tour in Iraq with no deaths. To top that we were in charge of the security ar Abu Gahrib, and we patrolled a quarter of baghdad. All this was during the first and second elections. Sure other people have to leave the wire. I'm not saying that they don't and they aren't in danger. I'm sick and tired of people who go over there and work in an office and go on a patrol once or twice talking up what they did. If you patroled as much as you say you did i'm sure it pisses you off too.

Yeah other people have jobs, But I don't know how many times we bailed pog units out. Engineers, MPs EOD. Sure they did their part out there, but They would get shot the heck up, a lot. My unit ran 7000+ comb at patrols in Iraq. we had 44 wounded and no one killed. We were the first regular army infantry battalion to go a full tour in Iraq with no deaths. To top that we were in charge of the security ar Abu Gahrib, and we patrolled a quarter of baghdad. All this was during the first and second elections. Sure other people have to leave the wire. I'm not saying that they don't and they aren't in danger. I'm sick and tired of people who go over there and work in an office and go on a patrol once or twice talking up what they did. If you patroled as much as you say you did i'm sure it pisses you off too.

Joined the Canadian Force 3yrs ago
Weapon Technicien and love it.

Which do you think is the better rifle, the C7A1 ( canadian forces ) or the M4?

At 7/29/09 10:57 PM, B4gle wrote: That is awesome. Didn't you wear ear protection though? or is it just not that effective? I always wondered if you can put on music while driving a humvee or a tank or something like that. i couldnt imagine anything cooler than shooting shit with hip-hop or death metal blaring in the background. So can you? or is that a stupid question.

well ear protection only gets you so far. your eyes and ears are the guys inside the truck. if you can't hear what they're saying you you're a sitting duck. and yeah we'd buy those little shitty 20 dollar battery powered speakers that you can hook up to an ipod and listen to that shit just to pass the time. (for the record i was never deployed sadly. i just did a month long training stint in barstow cali.) we don't have like headphones or anything blaring music while we're shooting because you have the guy riding shotgun has the radio and you HAVE to be able to hear him or your fucked.

wonko i want to tell you a story about when i arrived at beautiful fort gordon georgia. we got our post introduction from a lady sergeant major who talked to us about PTSD. she went on to talk about her unit (she was in the signal core, about as POG as it gets) got sent out on patrols and did all the same shit we did and how she was never in the wire. i simply asked her how did that work out for you? she told me that she watched some of her own men burn alive and they lost half of their platoon. pogs aren't meant to be outside the wire. if you WANTED to go out and kill motherfuckers and do all the crazy shit, you would've signed up for it. to go out in a unit that knows nothing about combat and expect to come back alive? that's more balls than i have. touche my friend.

b4gle, i know nothing about the canadian rifle, but i like the m4, because despite all the rumors about how much it jams and explodes on you and stuff, if you keep it clean, i've never shot a rifle that was as maneuverable in a small area or as accurate for it's size as the m4. i prefer the m249 because nothing makes walking into a house easier than knowing you've got 750-850 rounds per minute at your disposal. :)

and spiffy, i didn't see anything of yours that i needed to quote, but you know i love you. :)

As for me, well, I'm also a current soldier. A seaman, to be accurate. I am a 1st Lt. in the Navy, currently on a naval tour to patrol India. I was a '07 grad of the US Naval Academy, and is happy to be an officer.

Follow my command boys !!! (haha)

At 8/9/09 08:47 AM, TracyJackson wrote: seaman

[Navy Joke Goes Here]

For myself, I'm a rifleman with the Canadian military. I get to drive around in LAV III (like the stryker, but better). Currently we're training a new set of officers. Which means that we play their bitches while they muck things up.

The LAV III, for those who haven't seen it (25mm chain gun, 7.62mm coax, 7.62mm or 5.56mm pintle):

Right, I'd like to ask a few questions. Pardon me if this is a stupid one and Spiff, don't rip it out of me will ya? We will only get into an argument again xD

If someone were to join the military and become a soldier, what are the chances of them going to Iraq? If its a low percent/odd, where do the other soldiers go when those in Iraq have gone?

Also, if you were a soldier, what are the chances of you getting wounded by a bullet? Major or minor? Is it a different chance if you were in Iraq?

Sorry, I have been bobbing in here more just wanting to ask those questions. I just never did, well now I have :)

Ya, I'd also like to ask some questions:

1. I'm 14 but would ultimately like to join either the Army or Marines. Are there any programs provided by either for people too young to enlist(like a cadet type of thing)?

2. I would like to go to college first and have some of it paid by either the Army or Marines. If I accept money from them, will there be any restrictions to colleges I can choose or courses I can take?

3. Out of the Army and Marines, which sees more active deployments to combat zones like Iraq and Afghanistan, and which deploys more to places like Germany and other European countries?

Your answers are appreciated.

I can't answer these, not my country ^^

At 8/7/09 11:27 PM, B4gle wrote: Which do you think is the better rifle, the C7A1 ( canadian forces ) or the M4?

C8 heavy barrel :D

But seriously, between the 2, I'd stick with my C7

At 8/9/09 09:42 AM, Lizzardis wrote: If someone were to join the military and become a soldier, what are the chances of them going to Iraq? If its a low percent/odd, where do the other soldiers go when those in Iraq have gone?

i can only speak for the u.s. army, but it depends on what job you join as. if you sign up as Infantry, then you're going to deploy, whereas if you sign up as a band member (bet that blew your mind huh?) you probably won't go.

Also, if you were a soldier, what are the chances of you getting wounded by a bullet? Major or minor? Is it a different chance if you were in Iraq?

in the army, it seems like it's the people that aren't infantry are the ones that are always getting hurt. since it's our job to go on patrols and all the cool infantry stuff, we're pretty good at it. it's the people who work at a desk and one day they get sent on patrol because a patrol was short a guy. that's usually who gets hurt. and my 3000 man brigade has been in afghanistan for about 6 months and only a few people have been injured and even less have been killed. most of the injuries are concussions from ieds flipping trucks. nothing too serious.

At 8/9/09 11:39 AM, Peregrinus wrote:

At 8/7/09 11:27 PM, B4gle wrote: Which do you think is the better rifle, the C7A1 ( canadian forces ) or the M4?

C8 heavy barrel :D

But seriously, between the 2, I'd stick with my C7

Hell yeah, go Canada! haha. and about your other post you made, I'm signing up to be a officer once I finish my schooling, so if your still driving your LAV in about 5 years maybe I'll get to boss you around a bit for training :P

At 2/18/09 07:53 PM, SpiffyMasta wrote: Don't know or think anyone's done this before, but I thought I would start a club for anyone who is current or former military. I realize most of the people on this website aren't even old enough for this, but why not give it a shot.
I'm currently a LCpl in the Marine Corps, reservist for now until I finish school, and I'm based up in Portland, OR.
Hopefully I get some interest, and we go from there.
OohRah

Well I'm not in the military, but can I join (because I think long hours of Halo gives you some experience, no I'm kidding).

At 8/9/09 04:34 PM, B4gle wrote: so if your still driving your LAV in about 5 years maybe I'll get to boss you around a bit for training :P

I'm currently not driver, I'm dismount. In 5 years, I won't be driver, more likely gunner or section 2IC (if all goes well).

Oh, and I'll be sure to visibly facepalm your screw ups :)

At 8/9/09 06:18 PM, Peregrinus wrote:

At 8/9/09 04:34 PM, B4gle wrote: so if your still driving your LAV in about 5 years maybe I'll get to boss you around a bit for training :P

I'm currently not driver, I'm dismount. In 5 years, I won't be driver, more likely gunner or section 2IC (if all goes well).

Oh, and I'll be sure to visibly facepalm your screw ups :)

Who says I'm going to screw up, I'm sure theres nothing TOO complicated that I cant handle, by the time I reach training with a LAV anyway.

Even if training is hard, it looks very cool. I think when you first become an infantry officer you command 20 men and a LAV? That is just plain awesome. I just hope 2012 doesn't turn out to be real and kills me before I get a chance :P