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At 9/17/07 07:13 PM, kidd25 wrote: huh read the bible one he know everthing but he wont focre anything, like the devil.
anther is since the bible left the school eductain everthing went worst why becasue it kept oder and well i have to go

srry abut the word im hrrying

I agree with ya kidd25.

At 9/18/07 08:32 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 9/18/07 08:26 PM, Z-Sector wrote: Touche. (see? I can admit defeat, I don't know everything.) BUT, this doesn't mean you've disproved religion. If it was that easy, it would've been done.

wow

I think that might have been the second time that has ever happened on the BBS for me

I'll guess you say it in a good way

At 9/17/07 07:13 PM, AshfordPride wrote:

1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!

It would conflict with out freewill.
2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
Knowing isn't doing. He didn't make the future, He just knows of it.

3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.

It's a test of faith.

4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.

Can God even have motives? You seem to know very little about Him.

5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.

Can't judge people if everyone is perfect.

6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.

How so? You're not explaining yourself at all. Where's your facts, man? You sound like a bratty teen trying to rebel against the ultimate authority.

Your questions were terrible. Really. This is one of the worst "OMG RELIGION IS BULLSHIT" topics I've seen in a while.

Nice reply AshfordPride, i like what you said.

Damn. This has to be one of the fastest growing threads I've ever seen. Has the starter posted at all since he started it?

At 9/17/07 07:14 PM, Valhalla wrote: If creationists only believe the universe is a couple thousand years old. how can we see stars millions of lightyears away if if took the light millions of years to get here?

cause God said let their be light and it was here all the way to the end of the universe and same went for the stars.

cookie-monsta1
the Bible said the Earth revolves round sun but the church did'nt beleive instead they took Aristotle's ideads.
2: God has no begging or end
3: A virgin is give's birth if God chose her
4: each animal gave offspring, like bear gave birth to a bear that lives in alaska, that bear tahts born adapts to the climate
5: there were fossil's of people and animals taht did'nt get on Noah's ark and die in flood
6:Bird return with olive tree branch cause it was the only branch that either survived or made by God to be given to the dove
7: we are told to love are enemy but because of hatred, one of our emotion's, gets us.
8: He drowned the other people cause He gave them time but they did'nt go on the ark.
9:the ark was big enough to carry the 2 of each animal.

If this wasn't such a repeated topic, a thread this epic should belong in a sig!

Well, here is the deal..make story short is I work for clients (such as churches). Not to say God is real as is just to answer some questions...

1. God made us have this free will and he will not take evil away because its your chose to choose the evil side or his side.
2. God is like an administrator and we are like the registered users he created, the devil is also hes creation and he is like a moderator such as all angels are like moderator assistance. I thought maybe that may help in the sense.
3. They say God is coming soon, and he has not cam yet..(weird) in 1981 a man made a book that was called 81 reasons God will come this year....stupid

Listen you believe what you want to believe, but in my theory I do not believe in evolution of like big bang stuff like that (we where always here and there is nothing that created us...who knows..

At 9/17/07 07:06 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Religion is one of the most phony, yet interesting, human topics ever. Here are 6 things that prove that God does not exist and that every religion is wrong (in the last reason).

1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!
2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.
4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.
5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.
6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.

Now I would love to stick around and watch the discussion unfold, but I have a Rush concert to catch in an hour. See ya. I respond to your comments later.

maybe he is just testing us maybe he has a porpuse for us maybe you are just a guy searching for reasons to dont belive in god
he keeps evin in the earth becaues if everthing were perfect it wouldnt have sence and the life will be empty and point less
just think it if everthyng were perfect you dont even have to search a reason to live not iven look of r it

What the fuck, I insist this needs to be 10 pages long.

we are all being watched by aliens

At 9/19/07 02:20 AM, Hjernespreng5 wrote: we are all being watched by aliens

Yeah, they're friggen everywhere! Seriously, when are we going to deport those guys?

At 9/17/07 07:06 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Here are 6 things that prove that God does not exist

Bullshit, God DOES exist!

You know, if god is black, then god is black. Black is a color. Color is good. God is good. Poopshit, gods real.

I couldn't help but notice people saying if everyone believed in God, then it would conflict freewill. It is possible to believe in God and continue living in freewill. It's like acknowledging God's existence then saying "Whatever". You silly people.

At 9/18/07 07:06 PM, Z-Sector wrote: Age/Gender: 16, Male

STFU.

Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean I can't share my opinion about religion. I have as much freedom to express my thoughts and opinions as the average 18-49 year old. Respect it, teen oppressor. I hate people like you.

At 9/22/07 03:02 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean I can't share my opinion about religion. I have as much freedom to express my thoughts and opinions as the average 18-49 year old. Respect it, teen oppressor. I hate people like you.

Funny that atheists never use age as an argument, despite it being 5 million times more valid coming from us.

Funny that atheists never use age as an argument, despite it being 5 million times more valid coming from us.

Ha Ha!

Touché...

But srsly, if god exists, he sucks...

do you really believe in a man (or THING) that sits in the clouds all day and MAKES us live the way he sees fit?

Besides, if he lived in the clouds, it'd be pretty funny to see a mini-clip movie of him being sucked into a jet engin!

Would you feel the presence of God or know anything about him if you hadn't been taught about him? If you had been brought up in a society where religious material did not exist and you had no knowledge of God, then would he exist for you? Because you have been taught about God, and you believe in him, and say you feel his presence, isn't that like a placebo effect? Which alone could disprove the existence of God?

I'm pretty agnostic myself. I see religion as a way of positive thinking, that some people get depressed thinking they are alone in this world of doom, gloom and shrooms and have to believe that they are being guided in some way.

The fact that so many people believe in the existence of a God complicates the argument, but that number has decreased dramatically over the millennia. As our knowledge and learning has increased, other supernatural theories have become obsolete and no longer required to satisfy our human need for explaining everything whether we know it or not. Because we can scientifically explain a lot more nowadays, religions explanations are not needed. The question of "Why are we here, how did we come to be?" is pretty much beyond anyone's comprehension, so we conjure a higher entity, or "God" as our reason for being. All because, truly, we don't have a fucking clue.

Yuck!

This copypasta tastes like fail and AIDS.

I advise next time, you store your Copypasta in the refrigerator before serving next time.

At 9/19/07 02:27 AM, Nelson15 wrote:

At 9/17/07 07:06 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Here are 6 things that prove that God does not exist

Bullshit, God DOES exist!

You seem confident for someone who has no idea if he does or doesn't exist.

Fuckin A

Why is nobody letting this cumbag of a thread die?

shut up. god wants us to have a choice, instead of forcing us into heaven. maybe because you guys don't like god, he doesn't want to force you into him. see, you just proved yourself wrong. or rather, you gave me evidence.

At 9/22/07 04:24 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Why is nobody letting this cumbag of a thread die?

because douchebags like arguing about stuff that probably won't be proven in our time.

now that i look back, what was i thinking arguing about it?

At 9/18/07 09:14 PM, megasXLRfan wrote:

At 9/17/07 07:14 PM, Valhalla wrote: If creationists only believe the universe is a couple thousand years old. how can we see stars millions of lightyears away if if took the light millions of years to get here?

cause God said let their be light and it was here all the way to the end of the universe and same went for the stars.

thats only the sterotype, im a christian and i don't think the earth is only a couple thousand years old. most christians only believe that because christ died 2000watever years ago. so then they dont really think about it.

At 9/22/07 03:22 PM, XxXJimmyXxX wrote: Yuck!

This copypasta tastes like fail and AIDS.

I advise next time, you store your Copypasta in the refrigerator before serving next time.

Out of all the responses I got, this one is the dumbest and corniest. There was no copying and pasting here my dumb and corny friend.

At 9/22/07 03:03 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 9/22/07 03:02 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: Just because I'm 16 doesn't mean I can't share my opinion about religion. I have as much freedom to express my thoughts and opinions as the average 18-49 year old. Respect it, teen oppressor. I hate people like you.

Funny that atheists never use age as an argument, despite it being 5 million times more valid coming from us.

Okay, now you're just attempting to silence me and make my opinions seem invalid. That is the lowest of the low.

YOU WILL NOT SILENCE ME! EVER! EVEN IF THE MODS BANNED ME!

oh oh oh ok oh allright

Hooray its here its here!