At 9/17/07 07:06 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote:
Religion is one of the most phony, yet interesting, human topics ever. Here are 6 things that prove that God does not exist and that every religion is wrong (in the last reason).
Wow, six nonnegotiable reasons. So new.
1. If God is supposed to protect us from evil and is supposedly omnipotent (everywhere at any given time) and omnibenevolent (the ultimate in good), why doesn't he save us from the present evil already?!
Where the fuck did you get this? No, since Adam sinned, we are cursed with his sin. We are free to make our own choices, and also free to suffer for them, and suffer from the choices of others.
2. If God already knows the future and created us in his image, then humanity is destined to know everything He knows and we will not have the true free will we have. An example is this very post. I don't know if I will get lots of hate from religious nuts or not so I'm posting this to see the reaction. If I knew what the reaction would be, like "God", I wouldn't be writing this.
And thats why he doesnt show himself much nowdays. He knows that man will push it off as coincidence and the reaction is mute, so he doesnt do it. An example is this very moment.
3. If God is omnipotent and not everyone believes in Him, He would do a better job gathering believers.
That really doesnt make sense to me. I wont rebutt it, but only because I am not clear in what you are trying to say.
4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.
We are made in his image. Where do you get this shit? Desire was CREATED by him. He has desire as well. Self controll is part of life. It is not a sin to have temptation, but it is a sin to succumb.
5. Ma and Pa told me that God meant to make us imperfect. Why the hell would God make us imperfect if He, according to the Bible, expects so much from us as individuals. They never gave me a straightforward answer, or even a relevant one.
He expects you to sin. That is why he sent Jesus, so that you would have a shot at heaven. Your imperfections are there to test you as a man, even though there are some trials you cannot pass. It is to make you a stronger person.
6. Religion is very inconsistent about the idea of God and what He wants from us (if God can even feel desire). So that also proves, not only the non-existence of God, but the inaccuracy and incorrectness of many, if not all, religions.
Wow, this is the weakest one of all. You said this would be the coup-de-grace!!! I demand satisfaction. MAN made judgements on god, some even outright LYING. Apparently you only go by WORD of MOUTH, otherwise you would know what a CROCK of SHIT half of your arguements are. If you want to disprove all religions, you should at least make an attempt to actually READ the damn LITERATURE.
Now I would love to stick around and watch the discussion unfold, but I have a Rush concert to catch in an hour. See ya. I respond to your comments later.
And I eagerly await your retort. Next time try harder. Have a nice time at Rush!! (or hope you had a good time, depending on whether or not you are back.)