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At 9/18/07 05:17 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: why can't a person consciously decide to be religious?

stay religious

At 9/18/07 05:22 PM, unowned wrote: stay religious

Alrightey, why can't they consciously decide to STAY religious?

If God din;t create the universe who did! I'm fucking tired of this theory bullshit!!!!! How did animals get on earth! Microorganisms my ass. Scientist have no proof!!! They can't tell me how all the universe started!!! Think for 1 second fuck brains........How are we All here. Go back as far as you can and tell how it all started!!!!

So, athest, you say you don't belive in anything, but you belive that god isn't real, you say you have no religon, when in fact you belive in two, athism, and science. Being an athist, you say you can't belive in anything, when in fact youbelive in nothing, therfore, nobody can be an athist.

At 9/17/07 07:06 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote: 4. Why would a supernatural being create a universe? Because He was bored to death? He can't desire it because the concept of desire is subjectively human.

That is a great question, what would motivate him to make the universe but also how can two particles collide with one another in a white void creating Universe and then through mathematical equations accidentally create life and over time again accidentally make it intelligent. A DNA strand is to complex to be a result of a chemical pattern, it is coded but who by, the answer is God. The big bang theory is full of pot holes. The is also one thing we all missing out here, when the Bible was translated from Hebrew transcripts to Latin, there were several mistake one being that the universe and earth were created in 7 Ages meaning any period of time between gaps instead of being created in 7 days.

At 9/18/07 05:26 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:

Alrightey, why can't they consciously decide to STAY religious?

now the question is different

why can a beleiver be a non beleiver

you asked how can a non believer become one, 'consciously'

now its the beleiver 'consciously' stays believing, from where it began earlier as a 'non conscious decision'

At 9/18/07 05:33 PM, unowned wrote:

At 9/18/07 05:26 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:

Alrightey, why can't they consciously decide to STAY religious?

now the question is different

why can a beleiver be a non beleiver

you asked how can a non believer become one, 'consciously'

now its the beleiver 'consciously' stays believing, from where it began earlier as a 'non conscious decision'

It's always a consucous, when you first learn about your parents religon, you natraly stay with that riligon, but in the future, you could not be satistfied by the answers your religon provdes you and you switch to a difrent religon, or belive something else

At 9/17/07 07:14 PM, Valhalla wrote: If creationists only believe the universe is a couple thousand years old. how can we see stars millions of lightyears away if if took the light millions of years to get here?

You know, I never really thought about that.

At 9/18/07 05:30 PM, ftballhero54 wrote: If God din;t create the universe who did! I'm fucking tired of this theory bullshit!!!!! How did animals get on earth! Microorganisms my ass. Scientist have no proof!!! They can't tell me how all the universe started!!! Think for 1 second fuck brains........How are we All here. Go back as far as you can and tell how it all started!!!!

The Big Bang. Animals evolved from microorganisms. We know because of fossils. Dinosaurs came, got wiped out. Repeat microorganisms, we are here. Any questions?

At 9/18/07 05:46 PM, animemasta wrote: you natraly stay with that riligon,

huh.. mimicry, thats after instinct and before whatever you want to call it decisions? im glad belief in the tooth fairy and such fades.

what questions and at what age? questions like why it isnt as you seem reality is as a child?

At 9/18/07 05:30 PM, animemasta wrote: So, athest, you say you don't belive in anything, but you belive that god isn't real, you say you have no religon, when in fact you belive in two, athism, and science. Being an athist, you say you can't belive in anything, when in fact youbelive in nothing, therfore, nobody can be an athist.

Being an atheist doesn't necessarily I don't believe in anything, I never even said that. It means I don't believe in God. Get your facts straight before posting stuff like this.

At 9/18/07 05:54 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote:

At 9/18/07 05:30 PM, animemasta wrote: So, athest, you say you don't belive in anything, but you belive that god isn't real, you say you have no religon, when in fact you belive in two, athism, and science. Being an athist, you say you can't belive in anything, when in fact youbelive in nothing, therfore, nobody can be an athist.

Being an atheist doesn't necessarily I don't believe in anything, I never even said that. It means I don't believe in God. Get your facts straight before posting stuff like this.

Okay, I was impling that you may not belive in god,you belive in science, whitch, is a religon, and my Impresion of your words, was "I have no religon."

At 9/18/07 05:51 PM, Name-Goes-Here wrote:

At 9/18/07 05:30 PM, ftballhero54 wrote: If God din;t create the universe who did! I'm fucking tired of this theory bullshit!!!!! How did animals get on earth! Microorganisms my ass. Scientist have no proof!!! They can't tell me how all the universe started!!! Think for 1 second fuck brains........How are we All here. Go back as far as you can and tell how it all started!!!!

The Big Bang. Animals evolved from microorganisms. We know because of fossils. Dinosaurs came, got wiped out. Repeat microorganisms, we are here. Any questions?

Yes you don;t lsiten. I asked go back as far as you can! How the fuck did two little particles come from!!! You think it was like poof! They just popped up! Scientist don't know shit. That's why its a theory! They have no proof!!!!

I really don't see why most atheists feel the need to push their beliefs on others

I think that they're trying to convince themselves more than anyone else

The Bible is supposed to be taken literally; perhaps because a literal interpretation is unconvincing is a good reason to become atheist / agnostic, ja? Picking-and-choosing bits from the Bible is blasphemy, and if Adam and Eve and Noah and Moses aren't literal, why is the Jesus story, eh?

Bleh

At 9/18/07 06:08 PM, Earfetish wrote: The Bible is supposed to be taken literally; perhaps because a literal interpretation is unconvincing is a good reason to become atheist / agnostic, ja? Picking-and-choosing bits from the Bible is blasphemy, and if Adam and Eve and Noah and Moses aren't literal, why is the Jesus story, eh?

Bleh

I don't like it when people try to take the Bible literally. It's kind of stupid, considering it was written in the Middle East and translated thousands of times a few millenia ago

At 9/18/07 06:11 PM, ParachuteFish wrote: I don't like it when people try to take the Bible literally. It's kind of stupid, considering it was written in the Middle East and translated thousands of times a few millenia ago

Written by GOD, or at least people inspired by God. And my, what a homophobic, racist, sexist, bigoted, violent bastard that God was.

I don't like it when people try to take the Bible literally.

i love the conflict they have between each other, just tell it to the preist/pastor or whatever. haha more conflict

At 9/18/07 06:14 PM, Earfetish wrote: And my, what a homophobic, racist, sexist, bigoted, violent bastard that God was.

It all seemed like a good idea at the time...

Religion is crap. It's all a load of bullshit, and a waste of time.

At 9/18/07 06:14 PM, Earfetish wrote:

At 9/18/07 06:11 PM, ParachuteFish wrote: I don't like it when people try to take the Bible literally. It's kind of stupid, considering it was written in the Middle East and translated thousands of times a few millenia ago

Written by GOD, or at least people inspired by God. And my, what a homophobic, racist, sexist, bigoted, violent bastard that God was.

I don't buy that. It was written by people, particularly the Jewish people, who at the time believed in violence as a means to solve their problems

I mainly go by the New Testament

At 9/18/07 06:19 PM, Anim8or666 wrote: Religion is crap. It's all a load of bullshit, and a waste of time.

... says the 14 year old who thinks it's cool to put "666" in their name

...

You know what? Nevermind. You hate pokemon, I hate pokemon, so it doesn't matter

Believe what you want

What I don't understand is, people say, "if you're an atheist, what made the universe? What made intelligent, self-aware life?"

And then they say, "that bit in the Bible where it says how God made the universe and Humans, that bit's just a metaphor."

lol

Despite the Bible never saying "this isn't The Truth, a lot of this is just metaphor," or, "pick and choose whatever bits seem the most sensible to you."

Indeed, the Bible says stuff like, "don't be tempted by demons who fake wisdom, The Bible is The Truth."

bottom line...GOD invented the universes

I agree 100% on this thread.

At 9/18/07 06:22 PM, Earfetish wrote: And then they say, "that bit in the Bible where it says how God made the universe and Humans, that bit's just a metaphor."

Do you think that some sheep herder who lived thousands of years ago would be able to understand how the universe was actually made? For that matter, do we even completely understand it?

It was written by people who had no knowledge of that level of science, so they used a metaphorical story.

At 9/18/07 06:22 PM, Earfetish wrote: Despite the Bible never saying "this isn't The Truth, a lot of this is just metaphor," or, "pick and choose whatever bits seem the most sensible to you."

Indeed, the Bible says stuff like, "don't be tempted by demons who fake wisdom, The Bible is The Truth."

Seconded.
And all you bull crap
"pushing your ideas on us"
christians?
Well...

At 9/18/07 06:24 PM, ftballhero54 wrote: bottom line...GOD invented the universes

Hell yeah, and nobody is gonna push their belifes on US

At 9/18/07 06:27 PM, AshfordPride wrote: It was written by people who had no knowledge of that level of science, so they used a metaphorical story.

So it was written by sheep herders who weren't being inspired by God? Cos God sure would know. And they took it all as word-for-word truth until about 100 years ago.

I HATE ALL RELIGION BECAUSE ALL RELIGION FEED BULLSHIT THINGS LIKE NOT TO RESPECT WHAT OTHER PEROPLE BELIEVE AND TO PITY THEM ONLY RELIGION I RESPECT IS BUHDISM!!!