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At 5/9/09 11:55 AM, Haggard wrote: The text box with the random messages is slightly off. See picture for reference.

the messages are not random...if they are i see no change in text


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At 5/9/09 04:06 PM, piggy123 wrote:
At 5/9/09 11:55 AM, Haggard wrote: The text box with the random messages is slightly off. See picture for reference.
the messages are not random...if they are i see no change in text

They are. Every time you refresh the page you get a different message.

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At 5/8/09 09:44 AM, byteslinger wrote: 2) Make sure that your trusted sites will accept session and local cookies

3) Make sure you allow java scripts to run for the trusted sites.

How do you do steps 2 and 3?


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I hope you embrace my ideas. If not this horse will haunt your daydreams

Also I feel like figuring out what happened to Casualty (hint pg.#)

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At 5/9/09 10:09 PM, iscrulz wrote: I hope you embrace my ideas. If not this horse will haunt your daydreams

Also I feel like figuring out what happened to Casualty (hint pg.#)

Man, you gotta stop doing those drugs. That's just scary. As for Casualty, he's doing just fine. Real life just got in the way....

As for embracing your ideas - all ideas are taken into consideration, and will eventually be answered. What exactly do you have in mind, anyway?

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Hello guys, l have a question regarding NGlogs...I registered there but every time l want to get my stats l get this message: Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!
When l log back in the same thing happens...WTF?
I tried again after 5 hours, but nothing changed...
By the way, l can see my profile from the site and the email adress l sent is correct...


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The new site is still holding the error from the old site.
Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...

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At 5/10/09 11:23 AM, HeavyTank wrote: Hello guys, l have a question regarding NGlogs...I registered there but every time l want to get my stats l get this message: Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!
When l log back in the same thing happens...WTF?
I tried again after 5 hours, but nothing changed...
By the way, l can see my profile from the site and the email adress l sent is correct...

Read the FAQ on the NGLOGS home page - it's titled "Having problems with the site? Click here for help". I'm sure the answers you seek will be found there....

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At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...

Which name do you use to log in? If I log in with SCTE3 I get you current stats just fine.

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At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: The new site is still holding the error from the old site.
Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...

Sounds like a database issue. Please tell me your old user name and your new one (the one you want to log). Also, do you know your user number (usually a 3 or 4 digit code) that you can reference? If the main file and the log files are out of sync (usually happens when you change your user name) the tables have to be manually fixed to bring it back right. Give me all the details you can, and I'll see if I can straighten it out.

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At 5/10/09 03:54 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...
Which name do you use to log in? If I log in with SCTE3 I get you current stats just fine.

I use SCTE3 and I still get the page 1515 stats instead of the page 3827 stats.

At 5/10/09 03:56 PM, byteslinger wrote:
At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: The new site is still holding the error from the old site.
Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...
Sounds like a database issue. Please tell me your old user name and your new one (the one you want to log).

Old stat pages is the long name shadowchaotailsevil3 thing and the name became an eyesore for me so I asked Wade to change it to SCTE3. Also I log in with SCTE3 but I don't see why it takes me to the shadowchaotailsevil3 page. =/

Also, do you know your user number (usually a 3 or 4 digit code) that you can reference?

Current one: 3627
Old one: 1515( is it possible to delete that one?)

If the main file and the log files are out of sync (usually happens when you change your user name) the tables have to be manually fixed to bring it back right. Give me all the details you can, and I'll see if I can straighten it out.

I think I've explained as much as I can.
Also I can log my stats normally but I just don't seem to be getting directed to the correct page.


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At 5/10/09 04:08 PM, SCTE3 wrote:
At 5/10/09 03:54 PM, Haggard wrote:
At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...
Which name do you use to log in? If I log in with SCTE3 I get you current stats just fine.
I use SCTE3 and I still get the page 1515 stats instead of the page 3827 stats.

At 5/10/09 03:56 PM, byteslinger wrote:
At 5/10/09 03:12 PM, SCTE3 wrote: The new site is still holding the error from the old site.
Every time I log in it brings up my old username stats and everything instead of my current stats...
Sounds like a database issue. Please tell me your old user name and your new one (the one you want to log).
Old stat pages is the long name shadowchaotailsevil3 thing and the name became an eyesore for me so I asked Wade to change it to SCTE3. Also I log in with SCTE3 but I don't see why it takes me to the shadowchaotailsevil3 page. =/

Also, do you know your user number (usually a 3 or 4 digit code) that you can reference?
Current one: 3627
Old one: 1515( is it possible to delete that one?)

If the main file and the log files are out of sync (usually happens when you change your user name) the tables have to be manually fixed to bring it back right. Give me all the details you can, and I'll see if I can straighten it out.
I think I've explained as much as I can.
Also I can log my stats normally but I just don't seem to be getting directed to the correct page.

Thanks for all the info. I think I fixed your problem. Sure enough, there was information under 1515 and 3827. You had 2 user records, which was confusing the hell out of the lookup logic. I removed the 1515 record - your user number is now 3827, as you asked. I also made sure that any history you had under 1515 was moved to 3827, and I checked it myself - I think it's working for you now.

Give it a go, and let me know if this did the trick....

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At 5/10/09 06:02 PM, byteslinger wrote:
Thanks for all the info. I think I fixed your problem. Sure enough, there was information under 1515 and 3827. You had 2 user records, which was confusing the hell out of the lookup logic. I removed the 1515 record - your user number is now 3827, as you asked. I also made sure that any history you had under 1515 was moved to 3827, and I checked it myself - I think it's working for you now.

Give it a go, and let me know if this did the trick....

Problem fixed, also ages ago I exploited a loophole on the ng log after my name change. I kept logging in but since it kept giving me a wrong page I could keep doing:
Log in>get stats>stat logged +1

At the end of the day I figured out that it wasn't letting me log my stats and instead of it saying I had logge din once it said I had logged in 17 times, lol. That problem is also gone.

Changing current bookmarked page to the new NG log as well.


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At 5/10/09 12:26 AM, byteslinger wrote:
At 5/9/09 10:09 PM, iscrulz wrote: I hope you embrace my ideas. If not this horse will haunt your daydreams

Also I feel like figuring out what happened to Casualty (hint pg.#)
Man, you gotta stop doing those drugs. That's just scary. As for Casualty, he's doing just fine. Real life just got in the way....

Yes just say no to drugs my dear it's not that hard. It even freaks me out a little and I can watch swap.avi with a smile. Oh I assumed he was deported and joined the carnie.

As for embracing your ideas - all ideas are taken into consideration, and will eventually be answered. What exactly do you have in mind, anyway?

Getting of the You could of had this many experience points and be this level it is too depressing if you are a devote deposited but missed a year of depositings. A collapsible field that has the options to hide or show it.

Put in the quotes "You hate Final Fantasy."

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At 5/10/09 03:53 PM, byteslinger wrote:
Read the FAQ on the NGLOGS home page - it's titled "Having problems with the site? Click here for help". I'm sure the answers you seek will be found there....

You think l am stupid?I read the FAQ, and l also read this:

4) What to do if you spot a bug

Hey, we're not perfect, and sometimes a glitch pops up here and there - especially now, since there have been a lot of tweaks, mods and bolt-ons to the site. If you find something wrong, be so kind and check the NG Logs thread on NewGrounds.

Hey, what does the last part say?
Yeah, to check this thread....
So, can somebody please answer ym question (if he knows of course)?
I re-tried to get my stats today, but l get that error message again...


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At 5/11/09 08:31 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
You think l am stupid?I read the FAQ, and l also read this:

Bah, fuck it, the problem fixed itself..l tried logging my start for the 20th time and it finally worked...


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At 5/11/09 08:56 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 5/11/09 08:31 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
You think l am stupid?I read the FAQ, and l also read this:
Bah, fuck it, the problem fixed itself..l tried logging my start for the 20th time and it finally worked...

Glad I could help...

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At 5/11/09 05:28 AM, iscrulz wrote:
Getting of the You could of had this many experience points and be this level it is too depressing if you are a devote deposited but missed a year of depositings. A collapsible field that has the options to hide or show it.

Yeah, I hear you. My deposit rate is crap because I started the account a while ago, let it sit, and then came back to it - missed many days, so my ration is somewhere around 55%. The hide/show feature would be a nice bell-and-whistle, so when things quiet down, I'll give it a go.

Put in the quotes "You hate Final Fantasy."

So, let's just piss off all the fanboys, huh? That has some merit. I can understand some of the frustration Casualty had - there are a lot of users who just rant first instead of trying to help themselves out - and get mad if they don't get an answer immediately. Come up with a longer list, and I'll add it to the database!

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At 5/11/09 09:45 AM, byteslinger wrote: Glad I could help...

Well, l was able to log my stats once, but when l try to click "You will NOT get an email every time your stats are logged. Turn this option ON."
I get this message "Error: Could not identify user!"...oh, and the other problem now came back..
What's wrong with that site?Are there being any major changes or something?
I know they're going to put medals, but still, l know some other users that encountered this problem so l am not the only one...


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At 5/11/09 11:42 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 5/11/09 09:45 AM, byteslinger wrote: Glad I could help...
Well, l was able to log my stats once, but when l try to click "You will NOT get an email every time your stats are logged. Turn this option ON."
I get this message "Error: Could not identify user!"...oh, and the other problem now came back..
What's wrong with that site?Are there being any major changes or something?
I know they're going to put medals, but still, l know some other users that encountered this problem so l am not the only one...

I don't doubt that you are having issues. However, I have logged into NGLogs with the user "HeavyTank", retrieved stats, played around with the e-mail switches - pretty much everything you wrote about - and it did not fail for me.

It is true that some people are having issues - most of which seem to focus on browser issues and cookie timeouts. When you log in (and make sure you use the same case/spelling as you have in NewGrounds) the system sets a session cookie with your user name and internal user ID. If you get an error that mentions "not logged in" or "can't identify user", either the cookies got corrupted, or you signed in with a minor case variation of your name.

The bulk of the major changes are complete for now - the medal system is the newest chunk of code, and will probably evolve as time goes on. But I think the problems that we are seeing is that the entire site has been moved to a different server and account, and this new account is less forgiving than the old one. I had to go through some code to make sure all references to images and links had the proper case, or else it stopped working (but it worked fine on the previous server).

Please sign in as "HeavyTank" (with the "H" and "T" capitalized) and try again. If you still see issues, please let me know the O/S version you're running, the browser and version, if you have cable, DSL or dialup, and (as you did before) the exact error messages you see.

I'm not sure what's out-of-whack. But, based on the activity logs, over 98% of the users accessing the site have no reported issues. So, for the other 2%, I have to do a little more work....

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At 5/11/09 01:08 PM, byteslinger wrote:
At 5/11/09 11:42 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 5/11/09 09:45 AM, byteslinger wrote:
I don't doubt that you are having issues. However, I have logged into NGLogs with the user "HeavyTank", retrieved stats, played around with the e-mail switches - pretty much everything you wrote about - and it did not fail for me.

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It is true that some people are having issues - most of which seem to focus on browser issues and cookie timeouts. When you log in (and make sure you use the same case/spelling as you have in NewGrounds) the system sets a session cookie with your user name and internal user ID. If you get an error that mentions "not logged in" or "can't identify user", either the cookies got corrupted, or you signed in with a minor case variation of your name.

Well, as for the username l am 100% sure l typed it right because l can log back in and see my stats...


The bulk of the major changes are complete for now - the medal system is the newest chunk of code, and will probably evolve as time goes on. But I think the problems that we are seeing is that the entire site has been moved to a different server and account, and this new account is less forgiving than the old one. I had to go through some code to make sure all references to images and links had the proper case, or else it stopped working (but it worked fine on the previous server).

Please sign in as "HeavyTank" (with the "H" and "T" capitalized) and try again. If you still see issues, please let me know the O/S version you're running, the browser and version, if you have cable, DSL or dialup, and (as you did before) the exact error messages you see.

Yes, as l told you the username is correct...l am using Vista Ultimate and the latest Windows Internet Explorer....cable connection...the error message l am most concerned about is "Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!".
This means that l was able to log in and see my stats (because, as l already told you, l did log them once), but when l click "get stats" l get that error.


I'm not sure what's out-of-whack. But, based on the activity logs, over 98% of the users accessing the site have no reported issues. So, for the other 2%, I have to do a little more work....

Hm...would you suggest deleting the site's cookie?


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At 5/12/09 06:16 AM, HeavyTank wrote:
Yes, as l told you the username is correct...l am using Vista Ultimate and the latest Windows Internet Explorer....cable connection...the error message l am most concerned about is "Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!".
This means that l was able to log in and see my stats (because, as l already told you, l did log them once), but when l click "get stats" l get that error.

Okay, I think I'm getting a clearer picture now. First off, if you are using IE8 (or even 7), there may be some minor compatibility issues, as these browsers are generally, by default, more secure than their predecessors.

Please do me a favor, just as a test. Download Firefox 3.0.10 and try the site under that browser. I know for a fact that the site works in that version of Firefox, and I'm trying to determine the reason why these session cookies are giving us grief. If it works for you under Firefox, then we know it's some setting in your IE browser. If it doesn't work in Firefox, it could be a setting in Vista. At least this will give us some insight and direction as to where the problem lies, and how we can correct it.


Hm...would you suggest deleting the site's cookie?

Yes, you may want to clear your cookies - and by the way, did you add the three sites (www.nglogs.com, www.wkrconcepts.com and nglogs.wkrconcepts.com) to your trusted sites list? Generally, due to the default security settings on IE7+, session cookies may not be accepted unless the site is in the "trusted site" list.

Give it a go -and let me know the results, please...

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byteslinger, you've really helped us a lot, but you just keep posting the same stuff over and over instead of asking people to read the whole thread.


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At 5/12/09 06:33 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote: byteslinger, you've really helped us a lot, but you just keep posting the same stuff over and over instead of asking people to read the whole thread.

Which is the exact opposite of the mindset on the Games/Medals Tips thread. xD
I find your statement hilarious. She's being insanely helpful. moreso than examples previous that I've seen as of late.
Have to give her kudos for that.


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At 5/12/09 06:50 PM, KrevZabijak wrote:
At 5/12/09 06:33 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote: byteslinger, you've really helped us a lot, but you just keep posting the same stuff over and over instead of asking people to read the whole thread.
Which is the exact opposite of the mindset on the Games/Medals Tips thread. xD
I find your statement hilarious. She's being insanely helpful. moreso than examples previous that I've seen as of late.
Have to give her kudos for that.

This is a tough call, and I can appreciate both sides. I figure that most people would read the thread and get some ideas, but since these changes are relatively new, I'm still working the kinks out and trying to be helpful. Yeah, some users aren't as technically savvy as others, so sometimes you have to do a little hand-holding. I did write some info on the FAQ on the NGLogs site, which I will update based on the other issues that have popped up here.

It would help me out greatly that if someone sees a duplicated issue that you know has been addressed, be nice and kindly remind the wayward soul that their answer lies in the previous posts or in the FAQ. I will be doing this eventually, once things settle in.

So, yes, Wilhelm, I have repeated myself a few times, but all in the cause of trying to do the right thing. And thank you Krev for the kind words - nice to see someone has my back!

Thanks again for the input!

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Another quote cutoff. Should I start saving up in batches of five or ten and PM you? :)

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At 5/12/09 11:32 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Another quote cutoff. Should I start saving up in batches of five or ten and PM you? :)

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It appears that when I imported the quote database, some of them had commas or other characters that caused the full text to be truncated. I'll have to go back into the database and straighten this out. Just have to find the original text file and then re-import it.

Thanks for keeping track - if you have the list, PM'ing me would be fine. I'll do some cleanup this weekend.

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At 5/12/09 09:31 AM, byteslinger wrote: Please do me a favor, just as a test. Download Firefox 3.0.10 and try the site under that browser.

Epic failure.
I tried Firefox in my XP laptop, and l still get the exact same error...

Yes, you may want to clear your cookies - and by the way, did you add the three sites (www.nglogs.com, www.wkrconcepts.com and nglogs.wkrconcepts.com) to your trusted sites list?

Yes l did add them to my "trusted sites"..


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At 5/13/09 12:53 PM, HeavyTank wrote:
At 5/12/09 09:31 AM, byteslinger wrote: Please do me a favor, just as a test. Download Firefox 3.0.10 and try the site under that browser.
Epic failure.
I tried Firefox in my XP laptop, and l still get the exact same error...

Yes, you may want to clear your cookies - and by the way, did you add the three sites (www.nglogs.com, www.wkrconcepts.com and nglogs.wkrconcepts.com) to your trusted sites list?
Yes l did add them to my "trusted sites"..

Ouch! I didn't expect that. So far, I believe you have done everything we've discussed, and it's been a frustrating ride for both of us. The biggest problem that I am running into is trying to re-create your failure outside of the corrections (trusted sites, cookies, OS, etc.) that you've tried. I am going to have to carefully review all of your messages and my replies, and see what we could have missed.

Open message to all other readers: anyone else still unable to use the NG Logs site after trying to apply the fixes and ideas we've been kicking around here? Anyone else have an idea that HeavyTank can try (be nice!) to get him off the ground?

Give me some time to do more digging - I didn't forget about you...

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