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At 5/3/09 07:47 PM, byteslinger wrote: Are you using IE8? That's been known to give us the weird issues with the login cookies. I just tried Firefox 3.0.10, logged into your account, and added your stat record for today. Then I went in under IE7, and could browse your account with no troubles. I know that I have to tweak some page headers for IE8, so if you would, please use Firefox 3.0.10 for now until I can get the site whipped into alignment for IE8. Out of curiousity, what browser are you using?

No i'm using IE7, IE8 is still in betta form if i remember and crashed my broswer everytime i laucned it. I really don't use firefox at all either so that could not be a problem. In IE7 i can see my stats and everything just fine and then i try to log them for the day and then i get the issue. I will try Firefox for now, but thats just a pain in the ass for me to switch browsers just to go to NGlog. I guss that will work for now, i do hope you can fix the problem soon.

At 5/3/09 08:00 PM, Lizzardis wrote:

At 5/3/09 07:47 PM, byteslinger wrote: Okay, I'll look for it there. Just to confirm: what is the offset for the NG servers? Where are they located? I think they are GMT-5, as they appear to be in-sync with the East Coast.

No my friend they are -4 hours. As it says at the bottom of the thread page.

All times are Eastern Daylight Time (GMT -4)

Okay. You got me on that one. I never bothered to really look there. You're right. So, now I know what I have to hit - that's half the equation...Thanks for pointing that out :)

At 5/3/09 08:00 PM, Lizzardis wrote:

At 5/3/09 07:47 PM, byteslinger wrote: Okay, I'll look for it there. Just to confirm: what is the offset for the NG servers? Where are they located? I think they are GMT-5, as they appear to be in-sync with the East Coast.

No my friend they are -4 hours. As it says at the bottom of the thread page.

All times are Eastern Daylight Time (GMT -4)

My thanks to Casualty, Lizzardis and all the others who helped point me in the general direction on synchronizing the time between the NGLogs site and Newgrounds. I just finished coding it, and now going forward, both sites are in the same time zone and synched. Another bug squashed! :)

Well done! It's weird though, I had already done this in the original code, did you remove that part without thinking, maybe?

At 5/4/09 04:35 AM, Casualty wrote: Well done! It's weird though, I had already done this in the original code, did you remove that part without thinking, maybe?

Actually, it was 2 things that made it out of synch - the different base time on the server, and yes, I did tweak the add-new-log-record logic. Fortunately, I only commented out the original code, and once you told me about the math, that's where I got the "AHA" moment. Wasn't tough to fix - once I knew what I was looking for. Again, thanks for the heads-up! :)

Again, no problem, and don't hesitate if you have more questions like this. I'll also check this topic regularly :o

Don't forget to factor DST, without it, Central becomes -6 and Eastern -5.

Nothing like going live to find all the little things you missed in testing! Yes, the time is synched now, and I've already coded in the silly DST transition, so this shouldn't bite me in the ass at the end of the year.

Thanks to the positive and helpful comments from the NG community, I have fixed a few more minor bugs on the site, and I added two new "forecast" charts (one for levels, one for ranks) - which you'll see after you "Jack In". I was inspired by the forecast module that was on the old site , so I spruced them up a bit and added them here.

Now, a note about session issues: Did some homework - looks like IE7 ships with tight security, which may disable session cookies. For the NGLogs site to work (regardless of the browser you use) you MUST enable cookies and session cookies. You might have to add "www.nglogs.com" and "www.wkrconcepts.com" to your "trusted sites" list, depending on your security level in the browser. If you make any changes to your browser, make sure you clear all old cookies, and exit and restart the browser to start with a "clean slate" for the cookies to work right.

Hope this helps - and Happy Stat Whoring!

Maybe, figure out a way to track how many whistle points you have instead of just the rank?

At 5/5/09 03:19 PM, fuzzum111 wrote: Maybe, figure out a way to track how many whistle points you have instead of just the rank?

I doubt anyone even knows how many whistle points they have. It's disputed how many it takes to get from one level to the next. But maybe you should find a way to make the whistle status into an individual stat somehow.

Sorry for the double post, but I made a huge discovery! (I think so, anyway)

For those of you who have trouble logging on IE7, I have good news. I was trying for like a half hour to log on IE7 with no success, even after doing everything byteslinger said. So then I tried going to http://www.wkrconcepts.com/nglogs/index.
php and I logged successfully. Though I guess I have to thank gfoxcook for that because I saw his posts on byteslinger's page. Anyway I'm happy now.

At 5/5/09 05:24 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote: Sorry for the double post, but I made a huge discovery! (I think so, anyway)

I tried it out and thanks, you did make a big discovery...well to me it is atleast because i would have had to use firefox to log in insted of IE7 which would have been a pain in the ass switching to firefox evertime i wanted to update my stats so i thank you for this temporaryfix to this problem and hope to see it work regularly soon.

At 5/5/09 03:19 PM, fuzzum111 wrote: Maybe, figure out a way to track how many whistle points you have instead of just the rank?

To tell you the truth it is impossible to track the actual whistle points any given user has at any given time because no one except for the administrators. So this idea would never even take off, it's a good idea don't get me wrong but there is no way to do it even if we wanted to. It was ment to be a game :::in a way::: for us to have fun with so giveing us the points you need for each whistle and showning them to us is just defeating the original idea for the whole system to help clean up the site and not just have it just because someone wants to be a stat whore.

Can we see a redesign now?

The NEW! Level Projections & NEW! Rank Projections are just awesome
pretty nice done, i like it very much

the buttons doesn't work yet, right?... well is cool

and i would like to know if there is a possibility to put in the--/--/---- of the lvl that you already got... The day that you got them?

I know... sounds kinda hard, maybe just saving on variables the day for each lvl...

bu8t i would be cool to see it that way (so you don't need to pass like 200 logins to find when you lvl up to certain lvl)

well... is just an idea...

At 5/5/09 10:42 PM, aldlv wrote: The NEW! Level Projections & NEW! Rank Projections are just awesome
pretty nice done, i like it very much

the buttons doesn't work yet, right?... well is cool

The buttons do work, Aldlv. Key in a different value i nthe white input area, and then press the button. For example, if the system figures that your daily BP is 30 overall, but you know going forward you're going to do 40, change it to 40 and click. The page will refresh with updated date estimates

and i would like to know if there is a possibility to put in the--/--/---- of the lvl that you already got... The day that you got them?
I know... sounds kinda hard, maybe just saving on variables the day for each lvl...
but i would be cool to see it that way (so you don't need to pass like 200 logins to find when you lvl up to certain lvl)

Actually, I thought of doing that first, but I realized that some people don't log as frequently as others, and it was hard to estimate "between levels" for any given level. If I can think of a decent mathematical model to follow to make it work, I might add it later.

well... is just an idea...

And a very good one at that. Just real tough to implement....

At 5/5/09 09:47 PM, idiot-buster wrote:

At 5/5/09 03:19 PM, fuzzum111 wrote: Maybe, figure out a way to track how many whistle points you have instead of just the rank?

To tell you the truth it is impossible to track the actual whistle points any given user has at any given time because no one except for the administrators. So this idea would never even take off, it's a good idea don't get me wrong but there is no way to do it even if we wanted to. It was ment to be a game :::in a way::: for us to have fun with so giveing us the points you need for each whistle and showning them to us is just defeating the original idea for the whole system to help clean up the site and not just have it just because someone wants to be a stat whore.

idiot-buster is very correct here. There are no secret numbers that I can access to tell the exact whistle points. I only have access to the current level.

In fact, let me tell you a secret: Casualty NEVER had access to ANY files. He figured out a way to actually open up specific NG User HTTP pages inside his program, and search out, parse and extract the data. This makes three very important points: 1) I can only grab what we all can see on our pages, 2) If NG is down, the logs won't be able to read data from the site and 3) if they redesign the user pages at NG, NG Logs will fail until I can change the parser accordingly...

At 5/5/09 05:24 PM, WilhelmTheVampire wrote: Sorry for the double post, but I made a huge discovery! (I think so, anyway)

For those of you who have trouble logging on IE7, I have good news. I was trying for like a half hour to log on IE7 with no success, even after doing everything byteslinger said. So then I tried going to http://www.wkrconcepts.com/nglogs/index.
php and I logged successfully. Though I guess I have to thank gfoxcook for that because I saw his posts on byteslinger's page. Anyway I'm happy now.

Yes, thanks to all the poor souls who ran into murky waters with IE7. Seems that a combination of security settings and cookie management made life difficult for a while. I can't always solve a problem with programming, but I will find an answer one way or another...

At 5/5/09 10:09 PM, simon wrote: Can we see a redesign now?

Be patient, my friend. I just got the keys to the shop last week, and I'm still learning all the details and the interesting innards of how this all works. Casualty did a fine job, and there are A LOT of details behind the scenes to manage. I have been thinking about how to streamline it, add some more stats, and do a bit more - but these are all in the preliminary planning stages. So, yes, eventually, I will do some sort of redesign, but it's going to be a few months away. The hardest part is testingf a redesign while not screwing up the live site. What fun!

At 5/4/09 02:09 PM, KrevZabijak wrote: Don't forget to factor DST, without it, Central becomes -6 and Eastern -5.

Got it. Again, many thanks to all who have helped me track down the little things, and have given me so much positive support. I do appreciate it all, and as I promised, NGLogs will not just survive - it will thrive!

I'm loving the new features, well done on the successful takeover, Byteslinger! The rank projections will probably help kick my arse into gear for some more depositing and B/P'ing, as I've gone lazy with my stats recently.

I just figured out that the link I posted before also allows you to log on IE8, so I guess it's not all that mixed up.

NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Guess I have too much time on my hands. I just added some prototype medal logging to the site. From now on, when you log in, the system will take a snapshot of your total games played, total medals won and total points. It will calculate some averages, and keep them in each log record. There are two new reports - one for a single user's log history, and another to show ranking across all logged users (with sorting options). To see these new features, click on the [Jack In] link.

These medal stats are NOT counted in any regular stats - they are a separate animal. Hopefully the game-playing users will like what they see...

Note to Krev: Seems you have the most game points logged right now. Just wanted to let you know!

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Glad to see it get an update like this! Thank you.

Keep up the great work!

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Doesn't work for me. All I get is a blank page. :/

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Thanks for this. Everyone's medals seem to be missing a few, for some reason, but as a whole they're all pretty accurate. Thanks for the new feature!

At 5/7/09 04:24 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Doesn't work for me. All I get is a blank page. :/

Sorry to tell you this byteslinger, but i'm getting the same error as well. It loads but when it finishes nothing shown up at all it just stood a blank screen.

At 5/7/09 05:28 PM, idiot-buster wrote:

At 5/7/09 04:24 PM, Haggard wrote:

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Doesn't work for me. All I get is a blank page. :/

Sorry to tell you this byteslinger, but i'm getting the same error as well. It loads but when it finishes nothing shown up at all it just stood a blank screen.

Another IE6/IE7 hiccup. I modded the code, and it works now. Thanks for pointing it out!

At 5/7/09 05:10 PM, mwmike wrote:

At 5/7/09 03:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: NG LOG UPDATE - THE ITCHING, BURNING QUESTION ABOUT MEDAL STATS ON THE NG LOG SITE

Thanks for this. Everyone's medals seem to be missing a few, for some reason, but as a whole they're all pretty accurate. Thanks for the new feature!

Had to tweak the page parser. If the description of the medal had a comma or a right parenthesis, it was screwing up the break-apart logic. I have tweaked the code to correct that issus, and if you re-log your stats for the day, you will now see the correct counts. Thanks for the sharp eyes!

Every time I try to log my stats I get the "Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!" error. Is this happening to everyone?

At 5/8/09 07:13 AM, Chris9086 wrote: Every time I try to log my stats I get the "Error: Session expired! Please log back in to log your stats!" error. Is this happening to everyone?

No, it's your cookie settings. I've seen this reported before (usually Internet Explorer), and the solution to this is:

1) First, in your browser, add the sites "www.nglogs.com", "nglogs.wkrconcepts.com" and "www.wkrconcepts.com" to your trusted sites list. (click off the [ ] checkbox for HTTPS)

2) Make sure that your trusted sites will accept session and local cookies

3) Make sure you allow java scripts to run for the trusted sites.

4) When you've made the changes, exit the browser, go back in, delete all your old cookies, and then try NGlogs. Your session will be maintained at this point.

I have to update the FAQs on the site because I am sure others will trip into this hole as well.

Hope this helps!

The text box with the random messages is slightly off. See picture for reference.
I'm using Opera Version 9.64, haven't tested it with other browsers.

At 5/9/09 11:55 AM, Haggard wrote: The text box with the random messages is slightly off. See picture for reference.
I'm using Opera Version 9.64, haven't tested it with other browsers.

Thanks for the heads up - I tweaked the table layout a bit - think it should be okay for now. Had to adjust the inner width downward a few pixels.

BTW - how do you like the medal stat feature?

At 5/9/09 03:15 PM, byteslinger wrote:

At 5/9/09 11:55 AM, Haggard wrote: The text box with the random messages is slightly off. See picture for reference.
I'm using Opera Version 9.64, haven't tested it with other browsers.

Thanks for the heads up - I tweaked the table layout a bit - think it should be okay for now. Had to adjust the inner width downward a few pixels.

Yes, looks better now. Maybe one or two more pixels and it should be perfect. :)

BTW - how do you like the medal stat feature?

I like it a lot! :)