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michelinman

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Posted at: 9/5/09 05:48 AM

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Hey byteslinger, for the LUL list maker, can you add medal points, and perhaps BASE voting power too? I find I'm doing the "custom: don't append thing a lot" for those, especially medal points, as a large portion of achievements in the thread are for medal points. Just a thought. It's not a big deal for me to type it out, but if it's a quick fix, then hey, why not? Don't worry about it if it's gonna be a huge pain though. :)


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Posted at: 9/7/09 01:12 PM

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At 8/13/09 12:31 PM, byteslinger wrote: Okay, I see that the url with the bad link doesn't have a page number. I tweaked the code and it seems to be working for me at this end - I even logged into your account just to make sure it wasn't a data issue. Please clear your browser's cache, and try this again. Hopefully, it works for you.

Forgive the lateness of my response, I guess I died or something. But yeah, thanks for your help on that, it's working fine now.

One thing that's been on my mind since the beginning of time is that there's a little caption near the graph saying that there's more to be added to it soon. Really? I've been waiting over a year and nothing new has happened. I would really like to see an addition to the graph that has reviews and audio reviews.


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Posted at: 10/2/09 06:53 PM

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Hello there Byte,

I've searched for this thread for the past 20 minutes now, and i finally found it. It just seemed to disappear! xD

Anyway, is there a way you can somehow make Portal Guard an Add-on for things like Firefox and IE? I know its a program now, a separate one and its light of course, but its just for ease of access you know? Sometimes I forget and because I have not been concentrating on the portal I will miss out.

I'm basically just asking if it can be implemented as an add-on for stat whores like myself! xD

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Until this point in time I have had no problem with the fact that one can be UOTD more than once. Now, however, I find it a bit irritating. Isn't that right, deslona? Bah.

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Posted at: 10/7/09 12:21 AM

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At 10/2/09 06:53 PM, Lizzardis wrote: Hello there Byte,

I've searched for this thread for the past 20 minutes now, and i finally found it. It just seemed to disappear! xD

Anyway, is there a way you can somehow make Portal Guard an Add-on for things like Firefox and IE? I know its a program now, a separate one and its light of course, but its just for ease of access you know? Sometimes I forget and because I have not been concentrating on the portal I will miss out.

I'm basically just asking if it can be implemented as an add-on for stat whores like myself! xD

A legitimate question, my friend - but unfortunately, I do not have the source code for Portal Guard, and Casualty can't find it either. If he had it, I know he would give it to me, but it seems to be lost to the 4 winds. I will have to recreate the program from scratch, and then modify it as an add-in later. Not sure what the time table is on that, but I have a few people interested in it, so maybe sooner than later....?

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I'm not quite sure if this has been mention before; sorry if it has, but you should add a notice for changes in 'Whistle Status".

You know if your Whistle goes up or down; bronze to silver, etc.


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At 10/7/09 06:23 AM, reverend wrote: I'm not quite sure if this has been mention before; sorry if it has, but you should add a notice for changes in 'Whistle Status".

You know if your Whistle goes up or down; bronze to silver, etc.

Well, that's a fine idea - and actually, no one has mentioned that before. Let me see if I can toss that in the comparison logic...hmmmm.....

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IMPORTANT!
I had to disable the sending of e-mail notifications whenever your stats were logged - someone decided that since all the accounts were unsecure, anyone could change anyone else's e-mail address, and turn on logging. Someone could get the logs for everyone else's account, and not be able to stop it. (don't these people have better things to do than screw around with my site?) Anyways, for those of you who had chosen to recieve e-mails when you're stats are logged, I apologize for shutting this feature off - but I am trying to figure out a way to secure it. Thanks for understanding!

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Posted at: 11/7/09 02:53 AM

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Since the medal system is now ignoring the broken medals for calculating the total points a user has on their profile page, will you be updating NG Log to reflect this? You could have an extra column stating the Real total alongside the Gross total.

See PsychoGoldFish's post on the matter.


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At 11/7/09 02:53 AM, Wylo wrote: Since the medal system is now ignoring the broken medals for calculating the total points a user has on their profile page, will you be updating NG Log to reflect this? You could have an extra column stating the Real total alongside the Gross total.

See PsychoGoldFish's post on the matter.

Thanks for the heads-up, Wylo. This is going to be trickier than it looks. Right now, the only way NG Logs gets its data from NewGrounds is to literally open the associated web page and download it into a text stream (such as http://byteslinger.newgrounds.com/stats/
medals/
). From there, using certain key points in the HTML, the medals are counted and tallied. It does not access any database.

So, right now, the user medal page does not distinguish between "good" medals and "bad" ones. Until this can be identified on that page, I really have no way of segregating the two numbers. However, if there are other user pages I can load that contains this detail, please let me know, and I'll change the code on the NG Logs site to keep in step.

Hope this explains things. Please let me know if you any suggestions. Thanks again!

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Posted at: 11/10/09 07:42 AM

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Well right now you could pull the 'Real' medal stat from the main userpage. eg in the Recent Medals box of the userpage (user.newgrounds.com), not the actual medal listing page (user.newgrounds.com/stats/medals).

With regards to tracking broken medals, perhaps it is best to wait it out until PsychoGoldFish gets the system in better order. People seem to be having trouble getting their points counted for working medals for various games and other glitches. There is a list of broken/glitched medals here but it is neither official or easy to parse and extract.


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byyyyyte. I only bring this up after months of dealing with it, it drives me crazy. It's little, and it's not a big deal, but I figured I'd at least bring it up in case it was something small that you could change easily.

Experience: 2285 (215 until level 16)
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What you missed: If you deposited every day, you would have 24040 EXP and you would be Level 47.
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Time until next level: 0 year(s), 0 month(s) and 21 day(s) (on 03 Dec 09, that is).

Since I have 215 points remaining til level 16, it will take 22 days for me to level up, not 21. It rounds my experience down because it doesn't recognize odd experience points. I always forget and it makes me sad. Haha. Like I said, it's little, and if it's the slightest bit of a pain in the ass, don't worry about it. But if it's just a push of a button type deal, could you please push the button? :P


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Don't feel too bad, there are tons of users with EXP ending in 5. Only a literal handful with other odd digits, though.


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Posted at: 11/12/09 12:25 AM

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At 11/11/09 12:21 PM, michelinman wrote: byyyyyte. I only bring this up after months of dealing with it, it drives me crazy. It's little, and it's not a big deal, but I figured I'd at least bring it up in case it was something small that you could change easily.

Experience: 2285 (215 until level 16)
Level: 15
What you missed: If you deposited every day, you would have 24040 EXP and you would be Level 47.
Deposit rate: 9.5%
Time until next level: 0 year(s), 0 month(s) and 21 day(s) (on 03 Dec 09, that is).

Since I have 215 points remaining til level 16, it will take 22 days for me to level up, not 21. It rounds my experience down because it doesn't recognize odd experience points. I always forget and it makes me sad. Haha. Like I said, it's little, and if it's the slightest bit of a pain in the ass, don't worry about it. But if it's just a push of a button type deal, could you please push the button? :P

Well, since you asked so politely, consider it done. Seriously, it's fixed! :) . I just had to change the date-difference logic to round up instead of down. There you go!

And I see my favorite stalker is dropping in to keep an eye on me! Good to see you're still around!

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I'm not your stalker, you just happen to end up everywhere I do. :D


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At 11/12/09 12:25 AM, byteslinger wrote: Well, since you asked so politely, consider it done. Seriously, it's fixed! :) . I just had to change the date-difference logic to round up instead of down. There you go!

Thaaaaank you. I can rest easier now. :P I was hoping it was something really small like that.

And I see my favorite stalker is dropping in to keep an eye on me! Good to see you're still around!
At 11/12/09 01:09 AM, KrevZabijak wrote:
I'm not your stalker, you just happen to end up everywhere I do. :D

bytestalker has a much nicer ring to it than KrevStalkijak, so I think I'm gonna have to side with Krev on this one. :P Thanks again byte.


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Posted at: 11/13/09 07:13 PM

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For the fading graphic that shows how close you are to your next B/P level, I think it would look more slick if the background grey was there. Right now, in instances where the one you're moving to is noticeably larger than the one you're moving from (such as Police Officer -> Police Sergeant as I'm doing right now), you can see part of the badge peeking out from behind, so the fading out isn't as dramatic since you can already see where you're going. If the backgrounds were grey, the one in front would block out the one behind it entirely, and the fade would look better.

Also I think it would be good if the medal portion pulled from the same database tables as the one for showing medals on your profile, so the medal point counts are the same. ...I like consistency.

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At 11/13/09 07:13 PM, chris-marks wrote: For the fading graphic that shows how close you are to your next B/P level, I think it would look more slick if the background grey was there. Right now, in instances where the one you're moving to is noticeably larger than the one you're moving from (such as Police Officer -> Police Sergeant as I'm doing right now), you can see part of the badge peeking out from behind, so the fading out isn't as dramatic since you can already see where you're going. If the backgrounds were grey, the one in front would block out the one behind it entirely, and the fade would look better.

While I can see where you're coming from, I inherited that piece of Flash code from the prior owner as-is; I don't have the source code to make any changes, so I'd have to rebuild it from scratch to make any modifications...yeeesh!

Also I think it would be good if the medal portion pulled from the same database tables as the one for showing medals on your profile, so the medal point counts are the same. ...I like consistency.

That's the only place where I can get the medal info. Check back a few posts for all the gory details. What exactly is out of synch, anyway?

Thanks for the heads-up!

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At 11/13/09 11:58 PM, byteslinger wrote:
At 11/13/09 07:13 PM, chris-marks wrote: Also I think it would be good if the medal portion pulled from the same database tables as the one for showing medals on your profile, so the medal point counts are the same. ...I like consistency.
That's the only place where I can get the medal info. Check back a few posts for all the gory details. What exactly is out of synch, anyway?

Thanks for the heads-up!

As Wylo said, with the broken medals not counting there are different medal point sums on people's profiles than on NG Logs. For instance, KrevZabijak has 1000 more points on NG Logs than on her NG medal page. If you're getting it from key points in the HTML, though, there's a point total at the top of the page. Can you just grab that value, rather than summing up all the medal points as you go? That would bring the numbers back in sync.

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At 11/14/09 01:24 AM, chris-marks wrote: Can you just grab that value, rather than summing up all the medal points as you go? That would bring the numbers back in sync.

That could possibly work, and I know I'm not Byte, but I can at least help with this one.

As you see on NG Logs, it totals up the amount of medals you have AND your medal points. If you were to just take the number from the top of your profiles, it wouldn't count the amount of medals you have. So in a sense YES it would work, however the fact of the matter being that some people like to see how many medals they actually have, so it wouldn't work that well.

That being, some medals have been removed, and I could possibly think that the code for NG Logs that finds out the medals you have and the medal points you have, well I don't think it was made to take away. So, once you have those medal points and NG Logs sees that, then really the code wasn't meant to calculate the loss in medals and/or medal points.

Since the medals are going a bit trippy lately, that's why it has happened. So yeah....Your idea could work, but then people will not be able to see the amount of medals they actually have :)

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At 11/14/09 05:13 AM, Lizzardis wrote:
At 11/14/09 01:24 AM, chris-marks wrote: Can you just grab that value, rather than summing up all the medal points as you go? That would bring the numbers back in sync.
That could possibly work, and I know I'm not Byte, but I can at least help with this one.

As you see on NG Logs, it totals up the amount of medals you have AND your medal points. If you were to just take the number from the top of your profiles, it wouldn't count the amount of medals you have. So in a sense YES it would work, however the fact of the matter being that some people like to see how many medals they actually have, so it wouldn't work that well.

Right, because there's no way he could use the total medal points from the number at the top and still run the rest of the script for everything else. Nope, can't happen. Not possible.

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At 11/14/09 10:19 AM, chris-marks wrote: Right, because there's no way he could use the total medal points from the number at the top and still run the rest of the script for everything else. Nope, can't happen. Not possible.

Of course SHE could, the way I was thinking is that if a user has 744 medals, as indicated on NG Logs, yet has 24205 Points on Newgrounds, it wouldn't add up because some medals have been removed, and some just generally don't work. So therefore if you were to use a script to get the medal points from Newgrounds, yet keep the script which tells you how many medals you actually have, it would look strange.

But hey, what do I know. Its Bytes site. I was just giving my 10 cents.

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Could always have two columns; one for earned medal points, one for counted medal points.

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When I read about those medal stats, I'm glad I passed NG Log to someone else... But you're doing a great job Byteslinger :D


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At 11/15/09 06:47 AM, Casualty wrote: When I read about those medal stats, I'm glad I passed NG Log to someone else... But you're doing a great job Byteslinger :D

I do appreciate all of the input, and I understand all of the frustration with the weirdness with the medal stats. However, since NGLogs is strictly a "leech" site off of the NG website, and right now even NG is having issues with medals, I will keep all of these comments on my "to-do" list until NG gets their act together. Once it's stabilized on NG, I will revisit the code and get it calculating correctly. Right now, it would just be a lesson in futility to get everything correct - when even NG isn't quite sure at times...

And, thank you, Casualty, for the kudos.

By the way, I also started work on a prototype website for the Elite Guard Barracks: www.eliteguardbarracks.com

I figured I was already hip-deep in NewGrounds anyway, so why not do something else while I was at it?

Oh, one more thing - how have you been these past 6 months? Yup, can you believe it's been 6 months since NGLogs changed hands? My, how time flies when you're having fun, eh?

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Is anyone else's review stats acting funny? All my reviews stats have been reduced to 0:

Reviews: 0 (0 per day)
Reviews that day: -158
Review responses: 0 (-27 since last log)
Response rate: 0%
Audio Reviews: 0 (0 per day)
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Total stats gathered since last log: -100

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At 11/15/09 11:56 PM, chris-marks wrote: Is anyone else's review stats acting funny? All my reviews stats have been reduced to 0:

I think that happens when there is a clash in NG updating, and NG Logs pulling the info from NG. You just have to re-log your stats. It works for me.

Reviews: 114 (0.254 per day)
Reviews that day: 0
Review responses: 37 (0 since last log)
Response rate: 32.46%
Audio Reviews: 1 (0.002 per day)

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I have a few things to mention:

1) There's a minor error with level 45 in the Experience Progression page. The EXP requirement is meant to be 21,490 and not 21,940. I noticed this when I saw how long it would take me to get to level 46 from 45 and it definitely won't take less than two months. :P

2) It's probably better if you talked to citricsquid about this and see what he thinks but the Top Posters link in the Affiliates page goes to his old site name and not m00d.

3) What are your thoughts on Batting Averages? Since the redesign, they haven't been working on NG Log and are only found on author searches these days. Whatever happens to BA, I'll let you decide.


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Please, please, please, fix it so I show up on the Time on NG list, I should be ranked 34 I think, with 6 years 11 months and 11 days, but its still not showing up. With 7 years fast approaching, I sure would like to see my name on that list. I show up on all the other lists where appropriate, just not that one list. Thanks, Cheers.


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At 11/25/09 07:46 AM, Bahamut wrote:
3) What are your thoughts on Batting Averages? Since the redesign, they haven't been working on NG Log and are only found on author searches these days. Whatever happens to BA, I'll let you decide.

I think i know what happened here haha. When the redesign hit there were a major chane in profiles and the batting ave was removed from the profile. Thus when NGlog pulled stats from the profile the BA was not there and did not appear in NGlog. I think it had to do more with the program then anything, that he could not change how it pulled stats. But since Byte is good at these thing i'm sure that he would love to fix it @;-}>

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