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At 2/25/09 01:49 PM, Rallard wrote: Move to California. Seriously. Pretty much any pain you have warrants a medical license, which I now learned can be as low as a $120 starter fee. That's for 6 months of pure, delicious, dank, medical marijuana ranging anywhere from $50 to $65 and eighth.

And let me tell you... whoah. I broke my sobriety on weed last night just to try some of this stuff, and hot damn, I was so high off 1 hot boxed blunt between 3 people that I ended up playing video games from like 5 pm to 9 pm without even realizing it. I also have a low tolerance as of late, so that should be taken into account, but even my one friend who smokes everyday gets faded as hell from the stuff.

I think I may very well be the only stoner who DOESN'T want weed legalized, since I feel they have a good thing going here. But, lo and behold, we're the first ones to consider a bill to make it legal for economic purposes. Bleh.

I play video games during about those same hours on many days, and the time flies right on by.
I don't really care if it's legal or not, the law has no hold on me as it is. It would just add convenience to it if it were, in fact, legal.
Also, having a medical license in Cali makes it legal for you to grow your own medicine. Never leave that feature out, it's the best one. :)
Also, >>> Senate Bill 420 <<<

At 2/25/09 01:49 PM, Rallard wrote: I think I may very well be the only stoner who DOESN'T want weed legalized, since I feel they have a good thing going here. But, lo and behold, we're the first ones to consider a bill to make it legal for economic purposes. Bleh.

Why don't you want it legalised? And of course Cali would be the first, they're like the most progressive state.

So I'v been listening to Kottonmouth Kings and Cypress Hill and watching people smoke on youtube. Not a good idea to be doing if you have no weed. I want some so bad right now, it's not even funny. It's been like month D:

At 2/26/09 01:03 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

At 2/25/09 01:49 PM, Rallard wrote: I think I may very well be the only stoner who DOESN'T want weed legalized, since I feel they have a good thing going here. But, lo and behold, we're the first ones to consider a bill to make it legal for economic purposes. Bleh.

Why don't you want it legalised? And of course Cali would be the first, they're like the most progressive state.

I guess it's because I've sort of grown accustomed to what we have here. It's already pretty much legal, provided you go to a sketchy doctor and pay for a medical license. Even without a license you can get away with no fine after being caught, which was made evident by me getting rolled a few years ago and my friend getting caught a few times as well... apparently.

I just see legalization as being too good to be true. Why would the government want to sell a mind altering substance that doesn't require a bunch of addictive additives or tedious brewing? And even though some argue it would help the state's economy, why would people purchase weed more than once when they could just grow it in their gardens?

So... come Monday, I don't see
this having a big chance of passing.

At 2/26/09 05:33 AM, Sensationalism wrote: So I'v been listening to Kottonmouth Kings and Cypress Hill and watching people smoke on youtube. Not a good idea to be doing if you have no weed. I want some so bad right now, it's not even funny. It's been like month D:

Yeah that wouldn't help at all. :/
Ummm...click!

At 2/26/09 02:48 PM, Reed wrote: I just bought a bong out here in cali but I cant use it till I get back, its very tempting. But its only one more day till I get back and I have 2 different weeds waiting for me at my house, so I think I'll manage one more day. Oh boy I cant wait, I've been sober for weeks now, I'm gonna be fucked up :)

Ja you are. It will be a great day for you. :)
Speaking of weed in a house, I'm all out! :O
Fortunately, my friend is gonna get me some opium and a half of some chronic, else I'd be sober too.

I want mushroom tea.

At 2/26/09 03:53 PM, Delik wrote: Fortunately, my friend is gonna get me some opium and a half of some chronic, else I'd be sober too.

I'd be growing the fuck out of poppies on my land right now, if I hadn't inherited my mother's morphine allergy.
I had poppy tea only a few times before the allergy kicked in. That is one of the worst feelings in the world to ever have. Though.. in smoke form.. no wait, it would still affect someone as bad as orally ingesting, right?

At 2/27/09 02:09 AM, Sensationalism wrote: I want mushroom tea.

Would that like, get you as high as consuming dried mushrooms? Or is it an actual tea... lol...

I hate psychadelics. They were cool for a while, up until I had such a bad trip it was honestly the scariest time in my life.

But the mostly good times were really, really amazing, and you can't really experience the full effect of mushrooms without having a bad trip at least once.

At 2/27/09 03:56 PM, Rallard wrote:

At 2/27/09 02:09 AM, Sensationalism wrote: I want mushroom tea.

Would that like, get you as high as consuming dried mushrooms? Or is it an actual tea... lol...

Just another way of takin them in.

Bad trips are totally manageable if you stay calm and move to a quieter situation. And listen to music. Soon you'll find yourself having a good trip.

I've had quite a few 'bad trips' and the idea that they stay with you is not true. They're just like the good trips except for more intense and so long as you don't panic you should do alright.

At 2/28/09 01:09 AM, Clock-Ninja wrote: I've never done any hallucinogens and I'm too scared to because I heard that one bad trip can fuck you up for life. I'm still curious as to why they're so fun though.

Well, I'm sure there have been cases of people completely losing their mind on psychedelics, due to experiencing a new perception of reality, but I think the danger mostly lies during the trip itself. A friend's brother actually accidentally killed himself on a bad acid trip a few months ago. Though I'd only met him once (he tried to sell me E before I started rolling, lol), I'd spent a little time with his brother and they were both pretty cool.

I don't think one bad trip would fuck you up for life, though. I mean... if you dropped acid every day, Ozzy Osbourne style, then you might just end up like him. But doing it occasionally and straying away from crazy thoughts, you'll probably be okay.

As for the appeal of psychedelics... well, like already mentioned, it really changes your perception on reality. You can see things that aren't there, for instance. I can't really explain it well because everyone experiences different trips. But some of the most memorable things I saw on shrooms were cactuses turning from green to aqua, trees breathing, my body sprawled out in 5 different directions at once, something moving under a second story carpet (three of us saw it, all on shrooms, which makes it even weirder), a statue of Buddah having a moving brain, my friend's tie dye shirt "breathing" (you get this effect a lot with shrooms, it's hard to explain), and a lot more weird stuff.

So I guess the fun factor of it is the fact that you hallucinate, and have crazy ups and downs like a roller coaster. I'd recommend anyone considering psychedelics to start with salvia, since it can be as strong as shrooms but only last 10-15 minutes, as opposed to the 4 to 8 hours of insanity that shrooms and acid(?) provide. Plus it's legal.

this worth $10? (shitty camera)

At 2/28/09 12:15 PM, life wrote: this worth $10? (shitty camera)

http://img.waffleimages.com/2f729b3fc22b 9aba8f0c440b82ff1b9e33927f53/IMG_2412.JP G

The thing that makes hallucinogens especially awesome is the revelatory / love factor, it's not just having your vision screwed up, it's life-affirming. You know the kind of shit people talk about when reflecting on hallucinogens - we're all joined by love, reality is perception - some more obvious stuff too like 'life is good fun' or 'it's important to have fun in life', but very powerfully and vividly realised.

At 2/28/09 12:33 PM, Earfetish wrote: The thing that makes hallucinogens especially awesome is the revelatory / love factor, it's not just having your vision screwed up, it's life-affirming. You know the kind of shit people talk about when reflecting on hallucinogens - we're all joined by love, reality is perception - some more obvious stuff too like 'life is good fun' or 'it's important to have fun in life', but very powerfully and vividly realised.

I guess I feel the "reality is a perception" on shrooms, but I've never felt the love connection. In fact, I felt more detached from certain people while on them. I've only inadvertently done acid-based E before, so I can't really judge pure acid, but yeah...

I feel the love connection moreso on E.

At 2/28/09 01:51 PM, Reed wrote: My new bong. I took this like 20 seconds ago

Nice bong! How much was it?

At 2/28/09 12:15 PM, life wrote: this worth $10? (shitty camera)

I'd say that that's worth $10. At least with prices around here.

At 2/28/09 12:15 PM, life wrote: this worth $10? (shitty camera)

looks better than what you'd get in the UK for an equivalent amount

At 2/28/09 12:15 PM, life wrote: this worth $10? (shitty camera)

I'd say that's just about right.

At 2/28/09 01:51 PM, Reed wrote: My new bong. I took this like 20 seconds ago

Are you on a front porch?

At 2/28/09 01:33 PM, Rallard wrote: I've only inadvertently done acid-based E before, so I can't really judge pure acid, but yeah...

there arent any acid based pills, try and find one on pill reports

i get visuals similar to how francis crick described them, and that weed looks bunk

ahhaahahah, i doubt neiher of you had a strong trip, thats when the 60s music starts making sense

At 3/1/09 12:22 AM, pr0ded wrote: ahhaahahah, i doubt neiher of you had a strong trip, thats when the 60s music starts making sense

who me?

you wanna listen to Camel

At 3/1/09 12:22 AM, pr0ded wrote: ahhaahahah, i doubt neiher of you had a strong trip, thats when the 60s music starts making sense

who me?

you wanna listen to Camel

At 3/1/09 12:22 AM, pr0ded wrote:

At 2/28/09 01:33 PM, Rallard wrote: I've only inadvertently done acid-based E before, so I can't really judge pure acid, but yeah...

there arent any acid based pills, try and find one on pill reports

i get visuals similar to how francis crick described them, and that weed looks bunk

ahhaahahah, i doubt neiher of you had a strong trip, thats when the 60s music starts making sense

2cb then. I must've been tripping when I heard my dealer said they were acid based... whatever, they were bunk, I hallucinated, and it sucked.

But if your last statement is true, then I did trip hard. During one trip four friends and some random sketchy dude and I did about an eighth each, so no one in the apartment was sober. We watched a DVD of the band Yes (which I'm pretty sure is a 60s band, since they looked old as hell), and it was the craziest experience ever. I actually understood the music, lol... and the DVD had all these weird features, it was obviously meant to be watched on drugs.

Pretty awesome.

At 2/27/09 03:23 AM, KrevZabijak wrote: I had poppy tea only a few times before the allergy kicked in. That is one of the worst feelings in the world to ever have. Though.. in smoke form.. no wait, it would still affect someone as bad as orally ingesting, right?

Hell, I dunno. I'm not a doctor. Or am I? o_0

At 2/27/09 03:56 PM, Rallard wrote: I hate psychadelics. They were cool for a while, up until I had such a bad trip it was honestly the scariest time in my life.

But the mostly good times were really, really amazing, and you can't really experience the full effect of mushrooms without having a bad trip at least once.

Shit, How much of what did you bad trip on?
More importantly, hiw could a single trip possibly make you hate psychedelics? o_0
Hallucinogens are my favorite drugs. No matter how horrible of a trip I had, I could never hate them.

At 2/28/09 01:09 AM, Clock-Ninja wrote: I've never done any hallucinogens and I'm too scared to because I heard that one bad trip can fuck you up for life. I'm still curious as to why they're so fun though.

Lies and slander!

At 2/28/09 10:51 AM, Earfetish wrote: Bad trips are totally manageable if you stay calm and move to a quieter situation. And listen to music. Soon you'll find yourself having a good trip.

Yeah they are. Music is fantastic, and I find it to be the most helpful thing.

At 2/28/09 10:51 AM, Earfetish wrote: I've had quite a few 'bad trips' and the idea that they stay with you is not true. They're just like the good trips except for more intense and so long as you don't panic you should do alright.

Pretty much.

At 3/1/09 01:30 AM, Rallard wrote: But if your last statement is true, then I did trip hard. During one trip four friends and some random sketchy dude and I did about an eighth each

Only an eighth? Man, triple that is where it's at. ;)

At 3/1/09 12:20 AM, Buddhist wrote:

At 2/28/09 01:51 PM, Reed wrote: My new bong. I took this like 20 seconds ago

Are you on a front porch?

Are you going to call him a porch monkey if he is?

At 3/1/09 12:22 AM, pr0ded wrote:

At 2/28/09 01:33 PM, Rallard wrote: I've only inadvertently done acid-based E before, so I can't really judge pure acid, but yeah...

there arent any acid based pills, try and find one on pill reports

i get visuals similar to how francis crick described them, and that weed looks bunk

ahhaahahah, i doubt neiher of you had a strong trip, thats when the 60s music starts making sense

how is that weed bunk pr0de? a snapper gets me high all though i have no tolerance. the pic doesn't show it but it's more orange than that and it's def. kb.

Doing e's for the first time this Friday
Advise me on how not to do anything stupid please guys :(

At 3/1/09 01:24 PM, Rowan-Tea wrote: Doing e's for the first time this Friday
Advise me on how not to do anything stupid please guys :(

Keep your dick in your pants.