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At 1/22/08 02:42 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: How do you tell the difference between alts and multiple users on the same computer?

he can't, chances are he doesn't give a shit. what a great admin.

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At 1/22/08 02:51 PM, TheyL1ve wrote:
At 1/22/08 02:42 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote: How do you tell the difference between alts and multiple users on the same computer?
he can't, chances are he doesn't give a shit. what a great admin.

Any website admin can tell the difference of an alt and a main account. They just have to cross-reference the IP address

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Why did you not just deleted straight away obviously the offenders aren't the type of people you want on NG, why bother fucking about?


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At 1/22/08 03:09 PM, Tommy wrote: Why did you not just deleted straight away obviously the offenders aren't the type of people you want on NG, why bother fucking about?

hey why not delete everyone? i mean it's clear everything by everyone doesn't apply anymore so why not just delete the whole fucking site.

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wade is on the warpath it seems

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At 1/22/08 03:07 PM, Joe-Cool wrote: I think he's referring to like, a sister reviewing her brother's flash when they use the same computer, but different accounts. From IP address, you can't really tell that they're actually two different people.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm referring to, two or more users who are not breaking or evading any rules and with the same computer/host/ip etc. How would you tell the difference?

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At 1/22/08 03:13 PM, TheyL1ve wrote:
At 1/22/08 03:09 PM, Tommy wrote: Why did you not just deleted straight away obviously the offenders aren't the type of people you want on NG, why bother fucking about?
hey why not delete everyone? i mean it's clear everything by everyone doesn't apply anymore so why not just delete the whole fucking site.

Newgrounds is a privately owned website. The owners (Tom, Wade, Stamper, Jeff, Jim, Bob, Ross, Tim, and others) can set any rules they want.

Don't like it? Then leave and start your own website.

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I notice that the deletion of the 100 or so alt accounts seems to be affecting the amount of Flash that's passing.

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At 1/22/08 03:17 PM, Snake-Arsenic wrote:
At 1/22/08 03:07 PM, Joe-Cool wrote: I think he's referring to like, a sister reviewing her brother's flash when they use the same computer, but different accounts. From IP address, you can't really tell that they're actually two different people.
Yes, that's exactly what I'm referring to, two or more users who are not breaking or evading any rules and with the same computer/host/ip etc. How would you tell the difference?

Look at their profile. Assuming they provided real names, there is a difference. If not, then observe their posting habits, favorite items, their reviews, and what they voted on (assuming that the admins can see that.)

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At 1/22/08 02:06 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote: Even as we now speak about this. Another bullshit flash from afro_stud's alt is in the portal.
His bullshit always gets pushed through the fucking portal by alts and massvoting.

Right under you fucking nose Wade.

I tottally agree if you see afrounderscorestud's flashes you will see the amount of adolf hitler crap that contains no animation at all and is just a picture of either him dressed up as a french man or pikachu
It annoys me tottally obviously this is because of alts


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At 1/22/08 03:20 PM, SniperWolf1564 wrote: Look at their profile. Assuming they provided real names, there is a difference. If not, then observe their posting habits, favorite items, their reviews, and what they voted on (assuming that the admins can see that.)

There would definitely be some difference there, also I think you can only vote on a flash once per 24 hours on the same computer and if that's the case then that can be an indication of not evading also.

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At 1/22/08 03:22 PM, Jeronimo93 wrote:
At 1/22/08 02:06 PM, EyeLovePoozy wrote:
His bullshit always gets pushed through the fucking portal by alts and massvoting.
It annoys me tottally obviously this is because of alts

Actually I will say that I do vote about a three on these as it is a little thing but when I see them I always feel nice afterwards, so it is not alts that push it through, it is generally viewers unlike the previously mentioned flashes.

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At 1/21/08 05:11 PM, LickitySplit wrote: i agree wade.

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At 1/22/08 11:47 AM, WadeFulp wrote:
At 1/22/08 06:42 AM, LordZeebmork wrote: Then they're fucked. Do you really think the admins give a shit? I doubt it. All they care about is the money in their pockets. I won't do anything to support Newgrounds because I don't support the commercialized shitfest it's turning into.
This issue isn't about money, it is about giving the Flash artists who submit their content to Newgrounds a fair chance at the awards. Our goal is to provide a website that attracts talented Flash artists and gives them a place to submit their work where they can get a lot of exposure and feedback. Part of getting exposure is winning awards. The spam groups hurt the legit artists by pushing their entries off the 50 most recent list faster, and if the spam groups cheat by down voting other entries, and voting up their own, and using alts to leave mass reviews, etc, this only hurts the Flash artists. If you think we are wrong because we are trying to protect the Flash artists and keep the playing field level for everyone, then you are seriously screwed up in your thinking.

We know many of these groups coordinate with their members and post links to movies that need down voting, and links to their entries that need upvoting. These votes have nothing to do with the quality of the entry, they are soley cast with pure bias to try and bring down a legit entry and bring up a crap entry.

Do you think it would be fair if in a foot race a group held down the top runners, so the slower runners could win? It's the same thing. It's bull shit, and it needs to stop. Going forward, we may take out anyone who tries to cheat the system in anyway. So don't be surprised if accounts are lost for this reason.

It's simple people, don't cheat the system, and you won't be deleted.

Wrong on one account, we don't get our friends to uplift our submissions, its the general populace of Newgrounds that let our crap 'entries' through, no group has even posted a movie they submitted on a forum since GG. And the true reason we did htis, is because we were dangerously close to winning, until TANKMEN .5 came around and they got their friends to review the movie too, we had competion and it was unjust what they were doing, so peer prussure kicked in.

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Nice one...

But after you have done that, there'll probably be under 1 million user at newgrounds... >_>

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It's nice to see that shit like that won't be tolerated, I'd be pissed if an award was stolen from me.


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And not a damn "F" word in those paragraphs and I feel scared.

YEp, this is the Wade me likes.

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At 1/22/08 07:02 AM, LordZeebmork wrote:
At 1/21/08 05:58 PM, Kuro wrote: Still, I'm somewhat ashamed of that.
Don't be.

Always be ashamed of breaking Newgrounds rules. LordQueermork here's only pissed off because his precious Kberfag alts (which by the way were stolen) were deleted.


At 1/21/08 07:18 PM, SlashFirestorm wrote: I think it might be a good idea to only allow a single vote per account on a Flash during that Flash's award-eligibility period. Might lessen the multiple-zero'ing/mass-fifening wars for TOTW every week.
Let's fuck up the portal even more.

Spam groups are a part of Newgrounds. Just fucking accept it.

SlashFirestorm>LordZeebmork, or ZombieArmy, or the rest of the rule-breaking fags who break the rules, which Tom and Wade have set up for a reason.

At 1/21/08 07:47 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: Though LordZeebmork can no longer steal 10, 11 different accounts and use them to spam, pass spam, and vote 0 once it's passed to steal Turd as he is known to do as Kberkag,
Don't bet on it.

You'll get deleted. And since this is a private website, I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Wade at the very least having the option of taking legal action against you if you keep returning only to break the rules. Then again, maybe you'd like jail.


No, this just takes out the most malicious of the spammers, like Zeebmork.
Hahaha, no. I can still mass vote, mass review, mass submit, and do all of that fun shit if I felt like it.

And Wade would catch you, and he'd delete you.


But I support this decision, since it means that if Zeebmork ever rebuilds his Kberkags, he will die with them!
Not really. I'm still in the Kitty Krew.

So? What exactly does KK have to do with any of this? There are plenty of KK members who don't break NG rules, such as Kottbullar, Reaperssythe, The-DeadDuck, and Kes/BigFuzzyKitten who founded your group. So basically, it's just you and ZombieArmy breaking the rules, and your group suffers unfairly from your reputation a rule-breakers.


At 1/21/08 07:50 PM, CruzAzul-19 wrote: This is what some people who deserve this need to be punished. They don't deserve to have accounts if all they are going to do is give Newgrounds a bad name. This is a great idea, and I hope this leads to great things.
The admins fucking over the site, the mods fucking over the BBS, and the statwhores fucking over the Portal are what gives Newgrounds a bad name.

The Admins and the Mods keep this site from going down the shithole. The statwhores may give this site a bad name, but they wouldn't if those who really fuck up the site (account thieves and spammers)


At 1/21/08 08:01 PM, FlameAlchemist wrote: Indeedles.
Now, we just need to blam the shit out of any KK, SS, 4chan, or any other crappy flash in the portal.
Bah.

Die.


At 1/21/08 08:13 PM, Gustavos wrote: God Damnit! I wasn't thinking when I typed that. Oh well, hopefully Zeebmork will die with his alts when he creates more. As well as other people who try the same thing.
Probably not. I'll be more careful next time.

And yet Wade will find your ass again, and delete your alts again (and next time your main as well), every time.


There's one thing I never understood though. How could he remember the passwords for all his alts. I'd have a hard time remembering thirty of them.
alts.txt

At 1/21/08 08:33 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: (but gimmick alts soon get deleted)
Actually, no they don't. Remember Kehlenfick, WilliLatte, and WWWWWWWWWWWWW or whatever the fuck it was?

Remember Inaudiblethwomp? He was a gimmick from two, three nights ago based on the Inaudible Thwomp from the Bowser's Kingdom series, which is one of the great examples of sprite flash on Newgrounds. And he is now deleted.


At 1/21/08 08:45 PM, bigbadron wrote:
At 1/21/08 08:41 PM, Fleekinator wrote: also don't go ape on me for posting here, my main was banned for no reason and i felt that i needed to say something
probably has something to do with you being a completely shitty user that has broken the rules countless times with countless alts.
Fleek > bigbadron

You got it wrong. bigbadron > Fleek. And bigbadron > you.


At 1/21/08 08:48 PM, rednec0 wrote: its about friggin' time, almost all the time shitty flashes are passed by the aforementioned means. one of the most notorious spammers are the kitty krew and on more than one occasion i see them vote their way so they're not blammed. i'm sure other crews/groups do this also so i would applaud for their banning from the site.
Actually, the Kitty Krew doesn't mass anything. I know; l I'm in the KK. The only flash I know of that was massed through was rainigul's Liru Hentai Game Preview, which passed with a 1.64 after being Tor massed by a few different people through its entire judgement period.

And you were behind that, we all know it. We're not stupid, we know you were Kberkag, and that you stole rainigul, which was somehow connected to Zone, and used it to submit spam, and mass vote it with other submissions. Therefore, you were in violation of not only this new rule against one-man mass voting, but pre-existing rules against account theft, and you better be on your knees thanking Wade for not deleting you, because if it was me or almost anybody else on the site, you'd be deleted.

At 1/21/08 08:58 PM, bigbadron wrote: all the more reason to just delete accounts outright, making every e-terrorism group basically fall away into obscurity.
It won't work.

It will work, because little losers like you will end up in jail for hacking the wrong person, and others will be warned. I also fully agree with BBR's characterizing you as terrorists.

At 1/21/08 09:09 PM, bigbadron wrote: oh yeah, it's the internet and you're on a privately owned site. i always forget that shit.
Well fuck, I guess I have to hire some code monkeys to write me a site. just like Tom did.

You do that, and you can make the rules. But Tom and Wade make the rules here.

At 1/21/08 09:29 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: I guess lot of us care about the quality of Flash movies in the Portal, and also care that awards go to the people who deserve them, not to some guy with 42 alts who mass-voted 0 and mass-reviewed 10 for Underdog.
Because things like TANKMEN and SMBZ totally deserve awards and are not total shit.

Big talk from a person whose favorites include a clip stolen from Family Guy and a slideshow of furniture with a 3500Hz square wave attached. Everyone loves Tankmen, Brackenwood, SMBZ, and Bowser's Kingdom, except for spammers.


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By the way, what if I spontaneously developed multiple personality disorder? Could I have one account for each personality?

Alt accounts remain OK, nobody's going to delete all of Kes' alts (since technically he remains a law-abiding member of the Newgrounds community) but just don't use them to break the rules. Although saying that to you is like talking to a wall, since you're too retarded to understand that the rules are in place for a reason.


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At 1/22/08 04:22 PM, Aliensandwich wrote: OMG Lets kiss Wade's ass so much that it extends the topic to 10+ pages!

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I think I just felt Newgrounds get lighter. Fuck yeah, Wade!

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My god! Then I know TONS of alt accounts that could be deleted!

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At 1/22/08 04:55 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: My god! Then I know TONS of alt accounts that could be deleted!

Hopefully yours


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Wade takes Newgrounds too seriously.

This account is inactive. If you're reading this then go fuck yourself.

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Ive never had an alt and never will. Im a good boy :)

Also wade, you look like the terrorist in css...

Fuck it all, you bastards.

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meh
good idea
i like it
i have one alt, used 2 belong to mi brother - mostly i use it to comment on my userpage cuz im lonely :(

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My alt is thesearchbar.

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this is like the SS busted thread part 2 only everyone is a whole lot fuckin gayer

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