Very classy, NG staff, for meeting users halfway and providing customization and different options for viewing. I was seriously considering leaving NG for good, as the autoplay was just a really big factor in messing up being able to browse the site conveniently. But, I now feel like I will support and defend NG more than ever because of the quick turnaround on doing things for your loyal users based upon all of the comments over in the original wide layout thread. Very cool, and a great move to retain legitimacy with your key publics to prevent any sort of larger issues arising. I'm off to customize my portal preferences. Probably won't see me in the forums for another six years until you do something else to piss me off.

Thanks!

Hi guys. Just want to let you know the dimmer switch in this (AWESOME) wide-layout format thing adds about three extra web pages to my browsing history. Makes the Back button on my browser kind of inconvenient. Any idea if you guys can fix this? (I'm using Firefox.)

just noticed a minor bug in my preferences, when i switched back to classic and the other options disappeared, my all done button stayed where it was, which was now the bottom of an ad. when i found it and moused over it, the button moved where it was supposed to go and worked fine. just thought maybe someone else might wanna double check there prefs to make sure they got it.

At 5/27/09 09:51 PM, babyma wrote: I have done a lot of designing in the past and it shouldn't be too hard to make the narrow version compatible with the wide version. Assuming that every table within the main borders is fluid, then all you need to do is fix the width of the main table being held by the main borders and the fluid tables should sort themselves out.

Professional for who? the site needs to evolve and adapt to the changing web. I know its a hard concept to grasp; that being that technology and the web changes after awhile, but it does. Its fun to think that Newgrounds and its staff just sits around and decides to change the layout for fun or to annoy its userbase but the truth of the matter is that the site is free and the ads as much as you all hate them, do keep the lights on on the site, keeps contests going, etc etc etc. The old 'classic' grid uses outdated ad served sizes for one. Lets for a minute analyze why that would be of any importance:

What if ng for the sake of being 'professional' it just stuck with a narrow width forever. Ok cool, no big uproar. There is just a slight problem, the site would go broke. Eventually advertisers are going to have no more inventory for the ad slots ng carries. And these professionals are just going to go somewhere else, to the beloved youtube or whomever that can accomidate their inventory. omg ng is selling out , no not really, ng has always had ads, in fact it had a ton more + pop-ups .. some users might remember those days and they still climbed through that pile of trash and were great faithful users. The site has since cleaned up its ads, it makes less money than before when it pummelled you and now its even trying to share the less money it does make with YOU the userbase, via your userpage ads, flash submission page etc. that's important to note because once again we come back to the ad sizes issue, where to facilitate and share its revenue with its userbase, the grid needs to change, the layout needs to adapt.

Long story short, there is alot of thought and consideration that goes into things both from a user-friendly standpoint and a plain-old professional business standpoint so if you are indeed in the web design industry then you will fully grasp what im talking about. :)

Oh, you guys. I'm always glad to see that the Newgrounds team actually reads input and gives a damn about how your users feels about changes. It brings a warm, fuzzy feeling to my cold robot heart.

I loved the wide layout update, and it got even better now that I know I can change the settings whenever I like. Nice going, guys!

OMG WTF RAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

you added an option sowe can go back to classical mode? THIS IS EXTREMLEY ANNOYING, I HATE THE NEW OPTIONS-OPTION! I HATE CHANGES, AND OLD NEWGROUNDS WAS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!

I mean fuck, every single day, NG looks more and more like another website, AND I FOR ONE CANT STAND FOR IT, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ONLINE PETITION AND A FACEBOOK-GROUP TO GET THIS NEW OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO SWITCH BACK TO CLASSICAL MODE DELETED FROM NEWGORUNDS

i'm also leaving NG forever.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

Hey I'm an expert web designer (been using html for a whole 2 weeks now) and I think I know whats WRONG with the site. Like, you need to set width to 1337 (<img width='1337' src=newgroundslogo.png>) so the title bar stretches all the way in wide mode.

Also, tables will look better if you use built in borders instead of crap custom ones so it loadses faster on my 56k. And there's a box that says "some account type thingy here" you can fix that easily by changing the text (will look something like <font size=12 color='gray > Some account type thingy here. </font > </td > < /td > < / td> if you need help findinging this in the code can help cause i'm an expert).

You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

hey, erm? how do u take this widescreen off, it kinda sucks, i perfer newgrounds the old way xD

also

i <3 u tom

At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:

At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

Ya sure, here's a sample of my work

http://www.glaielgames.com/oldgames.htm

At 5/28/09 01:43 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:

At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:

At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

Ya sure, here's a sample of my work

http://www.glaielgames.com/oldgames.htm

Where is the midi? I WANT MY MIDI.

C:\WINDOWS\Media\onestop.mid lol this tune is great

It's good to see you guys are on top of this and working to iron out the kinks.

I was excited at first about the new auto-play options, but I guess most people are going to leave auto-play on anyway for pre-loaders to do their thing, so I'd better bite the bullet and update my Flashes with Play buttons so they behave nicely in this new NG era.

I wanted to report a small compatibility issue with the new "Related content" panel, in case you don't know about it already. In Firefox (I'm using Firefox 3.0, Windows XP), if you're an old codger like me and have set a minimum (enlarged) font size for easy reading--mine's set to 16--it will cause the "Related content" panel to extend down too far and overlap the Author Comments panel in non-wide mode (wide mode is okay). See attached screenshot for an example (page in the shot is http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 9619).

This is rad. Thanks for letting us choose. I'll be viewing stuff in classic mode.

This is the sickest shit EVA!

One problem I've found, is that when you expand the video, turn down the lights, or click any of the other layout buttons, it takes several back-clicks to get back to where you were.

At 5/28/09 02:01 AM, Dubby14 wrote: One problem I've found, is that when you expand the video, turn down the lights, or click any of the other layout buttons, it takes several back-clicks to get back to where you were.

This actually doesnt happen in safari

i do like the fact that we can finally change the auto-play feature
kinda annoying if you ask me...

I honestly have to say Classic mode looks BETTER than the old design.

YAY! now i can stop whining

One slight problem with classic mode: you can't see the title of the movie anywhere on the page.

Lovely job! I like the layout , how it blows up. This may bring more artists and viewers to the site because it's got nice presentation. I dunno if any other site does this, but that BLOW UP feature is great! Wowsers.

Hmm, it's possible Newgrounds may lose some comments, reviews, and submission activities.
Becuase the content is at the very top suffocating the interactivity that used to be easily seen.

Review, vote, add favorites etc. There may be a possible drop in that. But in general, it's great presentation. It may drop in the beginning, but maybe it'll go back up. People get used to places they like ;).

Is there possible consideration to foreshadow there are things directly related to the content below?
Like 'Authors Coments Below!" very skinny or something on the side.

Hands down lovely job. Lovely progression, great vibe, and wonderful presentation. Let's see Newgrounds grow.

I only read a few pages of post, but it's clear from Tom's comments that the NG staff seems well aware of an online community's resistance to change. The recent Facebook layout change is a great example of this. People flipped out when the whole site changed recently, and I mean REALLY flipped out. There were all these new groups with hundreds of thousands of members dedicated to flaming the new layout. However, within a week or so, it all calmed down, because once people had gotten over the loss of their old, familiar layout, they began to see the benefits of the new one. After all, the NG staff is smart, and they would not throw a new layout at us if there had not been immense amounts of thought and consideration put into it. I hope that people have to balls to give this layout a shot for a week or so before they pass judgment, because otherwise they'll miss out on its potential.

I like the new layout and it's good to see you raising the bar with updates. Keep up the good work!

Very tasty! Great with the opportunity to enlarge the format, taht was useful. :)

Yes! Awesomeness. Thanks.

This is terrible for people like me who access Newgrounds on lower-resolution screens of 800pixels wide (portables, etc.).

Can you please make a special "mobile version" of Newgrounds, if you are set on having the standard definition be accessible only to high-resolution screens?

It seems to me that this wide layout does not add anything to the site except more horizontal space.

Thanks for the option to stop auto-play. I think I'm getting used to it now.

Ok, to be honest, it's not that bad.

It's definitely worse than it was before, yes (the layout fit my screen perfectly before), but not much worse than Youtube anyway; it just forces me to scroll sideways to see certain parts of the page.

But I do wonder if more and more people won't be accessing Newgrounds via small internet-capable devices in the future (that seems to be the trend), which would mean that the wide resolution would actually be a bad thing.

So it might be a good idea to invest some time in creating a "mobile" version of NG, if it's not too hard...

Personally, I will be getting the OpenPandora handheld soon (800px-wide screen) and using it to access Newgrounds. I assume that other people will be accessing this website from iPhone-like devices also.

At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:

At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

i miss my old geocities website now ),: