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The autoplay was the only concern I had, and letting registered members have the option to disable it takes care of that. I have gone from being neutral regarding the new layout to pleased with it. Looking forward to seeing the changes for the rest of the site.

So I assume the new layout will be done piece-by-piece, instead of the massive rush deal with the 2007 one? And would I be right in assuming that the lit and art portals will be part of this redesign?

I think auto playing for unregistered members is a good idea because it will help with stuff getting Digged or casually linked.

Here's my only grievance

Thanks for giving us the option to switch back tom! In the meantime, I'l try to adjust to wide layout.

Tom, next time you do something drastic like this, do the sensible thing and make it a beta testing option.

Youtube and deviantart do this and it works very well.

These new options are great, but I do think that the "Play Button" in the widescreen layout could use a bit of visual flare, and maybe some changes to the preloaders. This new play button eliminates the need for a button driven preloader, therefore, why not just push the design of the auto-play? Or maybe even take it a step further, I would suggest releasing a line of NG preloaders that auto-adjust, so if the Auto-Play(in widescreen mode) is turned off, when the user presses the NG play button, just have an auto-playing preloader instead of double buttons, and if auto-play (in widescreen) is turned on, then make the preloader to have a play button... Also, I would highly suggest having a holder image for when a user has auto-play deactivated, such as displaying the first frame of the flash underneath the play button.

And a final suggestion is to center the wide-window in the screen, why not have file info on the left and related items on the right (assuming there is enough space with that previously mentioned site redesign)

I like this update Tom.

Thanks for the fast work guys, you really pulled it together and fixed it. Only one day and you almost fixed every suggestion.

Thanks! This is the sort of step Newgrounds should have taken from the start, although I understand why you opted to go ahead without leaving an option, which is that this constitutes an (eventual) improvement to NG, much like the change in site layout.

I'll stick with the classic mode, for now, but when the wide layout is improved (and I'm sure it will), I'll probably change to that.

thank you for keeping the classic layout as well.

I think you should be able to move the sections around.

there is a lag issues in some games like shift 4 were controls got affected by the new layout, could you check that out?

Anyway very good indeed, more people will look without pressing watch this movie :)

At 5/27/09 07:28 PM, Wurmy wrote:

On an unrelated note, heres a couple of bugs. I'm using Firefox 3, along with adblock, and noscript if it matters (Which it probably does).

I have the same bug, using Firefox 3 with Adblock Plus but without noscript.

I'm really liking this layout, and now users will be able to create animations and games to be played on a larger scale than previously.

The only thing I could suggest is that when you hover your mouse over the colored rating box that's near the name of the flash in the title bar, that the description of the rating and the applicable contents for the flash appear in a flyout type fasion, similar to the descriptions of flashes when hovering your mouse on them on the main Flash Portal page.

Glad to see we have some options now! That should help quell a good portion of the inevitable bitch and moan fest that always follows an update like this.

Thank you so much for adding the classic option. I really am not a fan of the new layout for reasons you've probably heard already. I'm just glad I dont have to use it while you experiment and tweek the new layout. Thanks

I definitely still prefer the Classic mode since it doesn't make the page longer.

The wide layout is great, I don't understand why people would like the old play button better. Now I can send people to flash here and they won't be like "How do I play it?"

Its an ok page, it looks unique, and thats what your site is all about.

But i can't seem to find the favorite button?

i think it should be just abit higher ontop of the decription box, or underneath the Flash movie box(im not sure what its called)

But i think it would make the most of sense, if ya'll put the favorite bottom, where the other 3 options are to, open a full view and the other thing.

Feedback, would be kool

-StreetSmart

At 5/28/09 12:23 AM, Kajenx wrote: The wide layout is great, I don't understand why people would like the old play button better. Now I can send people to flash here and they won't be like "How do I play it?"

If you friends cannot understand what a big button labeled "PLAY THIS GAME!", then its time to get some new, intelligent friends.

Thanks much Tom for giving the option to go back to classic mode if we should choose to.

Personally, i like it when it auto plays only because the non-autoplay doesn't auto load.

If you clicked on a video in the portal and it would load the movie but not auto play it (like a pre-preloader?) and have the play button the same as non-autoplay, it would work pretty uber nicely

Awesome update. i was just gonna start bitching about how it looks like you-tube, auto-play sucks and how you should have a preference toggle when the first thing i see amounts to "problem solved". I like when things work themselves out :) thanks Tom for always looking out for your minions

Very classy, NG staff, for meeting users halfway and providing customization and different options for viewing. I was seriously considering leaving NG for good, as the autoplay was just a really big factor in messing up being able to browse the site conveniently. But, I now feel like I will support and defend NG more than ever because of the quick turnaround on doing things for your loyal users based upon all of the comments over in the original wide layout thread. Very cool, and a great move to retain legitimacy with your key publics to prevent any sort of larger issues arising. I'm off to customize my portal preferences. Probably won't see me in the forums for another six years until you do something else to piss me off.

Thanks!

Hi guys. Just want to let you know the dimmer switch in this (AWESOME) wide-layout format thing adds about three extra web pages to my browsing history. Makes the Back button on my browser kind of inconvenient. Any idea if you guys can fix this? (I'm using Firefox.)

just noticed a minor bug in my preferences, when i switched back to classic and the other options disappeared, my all done button stayed where it was, which was now the bottom of an ad. when i found it and moused over it, the button moved where it was supposed to go and worked fine. just thought maybe someone else might wanna double check there prefs to make sure they got it.

At 5/27/09 09:51 PM, babyma wrote: I have done a lot of designing in the past and it shouldn't be too hard to make the narrow version compatible with the wide version. Assuming that every table within the main borders is fluid, then all you need to do is fix the width of the main table being held by the main borders and the fluid tables should sort themselves out.

Professional for who? the site needs to evolve and adapt to the changing web. I know its a hard concept to grasp; that being that technology and the web changes after awhile, but it does. Its fun to think that Newgrounds and its staff just sits around and decides to change the layout for fun or to annoy its userbase but the truth of the matter is that the site is free and the ads as much as you all hate them, do keep the lights on on the site, keeps contests going, etc etc etc. The old 'classic' grid uses outdated ad served sizes for one. Lets for a minute analyze why that would be of any importance:

What if ng for the sake of being 'professional' it just stuck with a narrow width forever. Ok cool, no big uproar. There is just a slight problem, the site would go broke. Eventually advertisers are going to have no more inventory for the ad slots ng carries. And these professionals are just going to go somewhere else, to the beloved youtube or whomever that can accomidate their inventory. omg ng is selling out , no not really, ng has always had ads, in fact it had a ton more + pop-ups .. some users might remember those days and they still climbed through that pile of trash and were great faithful users. The site has since cleaned up its ads, it makes less money than before when it pummelled you and now its even trying to share the less money it does make with YOU the userbase, via your userpage ads, flash submission page etc. that's important to note because once again we come back to the ad sizes issue, where to facilitate and share its revenue with its userbase, the grid needs to change, the layout needs to adapt.

Long story short, there is alot of thought and consideration that goes into things both from a user-friendly standpoint and a plain-old professional business standpoint so if you are indeed in the web design industry then you will fully grasp what im talking about. :)

Oh, you guys. I'm always glad to see that the Newgrounds team actually reads input and gives a damn about how your users feels about changes. It brings a warm, fuzzy feeling to my cold robot heart.

I loved the wide layout update, and it got even better now that I know I can change the settings whenever I like. Nice going, guys!

OMG WTF RAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

you added an option sowe can go back to classical mode? THIS IS EXTREMLEY ANNOYING, I HATE THE NEW OPTIONS-OPTION! I HATE CHANGES, AND OLD NEWGROUNDS WAS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!

I mean fuck, every single day, NG looks more and more like another website, AND I FOR ONE CANT STAND FOR IT, I'M GONNA MAKE AN ONLINE PETITION AND A FACEBOOK-GROUP TO GET THIS NEW OPTION OF BEING ABLE TO SWITCH BACK TO CLASSICAL MODE DELETED FROM NEWGORUNDS

i'm also leaving NG forever.

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG EEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!