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Glaiel-Gamer

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Posted at: 5/28/09 01:29 AM

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Hey I'm an expert web designer (been using html for a whole 2 weeks now) and I think I know whats WRONG with the site. Like, you need to set width to 1337 (<img width='1337' src=newgroundslogo.png>) so the title bar stretches all the way in wide mode.

Also, tables will look better if you use built in borders instead of crap custom ones so it loadses faster on my 56k. And there's a box that says "some account type thingy here" you can fix that easily by changing the text (will look something like <font size=12 color='gray > Some account type thingy here. </font > </td > < /td > < / td> if you need help findinging this in the code can help cause i'm an expert).

You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.


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At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.

You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

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Posted at: 5/28/09 01:42 AM

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hey, erm? how do u take this widescreen off, it kinda sucks, i perfer newgrounds the old way xD

also

i <3 u tom


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At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:
At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.
You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

Ya sure, here's a sample of my work

http://www.glaielgames.com/oldgames.htm


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Posted at: 5/28/09 01:47 AM

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At 5/28/09 01:28 AM, Rucklo wrote: OMG WTF RAAAAAAAAAAAGE!

AND OLD NEWGROUNDS WAS SOOOO MUCH BETTER!

I want NG with frames and yellow tables back.

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At 5/28/09 01:43 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote:
At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:
At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.
You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?
Ya sure, here's a sample of my work

http://www.glaielgames.com/oldgames.htm

Where is the midi? I WANT MY MIDI.

C:\WINDOWS\Media\onestop.mid lol this tune is great


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It's good to see you guys are on top of this and working to iron out the kinks.

I was excited at first about the new auto-play options, but I guess most people are going to leave auto-play on anyway for pre-loaders to do their thing, so I'd better bite the bullet and update my Flashes with Play buttons so they behave nicely in this new NG era.

I wanted to report a small compatibility issue with the new "Related content" panel, in case you don't know about it already. In Firefox (I'm using Firefox 3.0, Windows XP), if you're an old codger like me and have set a minimum (enlarged) font size for easy reading--mine's set to 16--it will cause the "Related content" panel to extend down too far and overlap the Author Comments panel in non-wide mode (wide mode is okay). See attached screenshot for an example (page in the shot is http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/48 9619).

Wide Layout Update 1


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Posted at: 5/28/09 01:55 AM

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This is rad. Thanks for letting us choose. I'll be viewing stuff in classic mode.


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Posted at: 5/28/09 01:57 AM

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This is the sickest shit EVA!

Everyone at NG has secret accounts... Why are people so dumb?!?!


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One problem I've found, is that when you expand the video, turn down the lights, or click any of the other layout buttons, it takes several back-clicks to get back to where you were.

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At 5/28/09 02:01 AM, Dubby14 wrote: One problem I've found, is that when you expand the video, turn down the lights, or click any of the other layout buttons, it takes several back-clicks to get back to where you were.

But NG's killer navigation means this isn't a problem. :X

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At 5/28/09 02:01 AM, Dubby14 wrote: One problem I've found, is that when you expand the video, turn down the lights, or click any of the other layout buttons, it takes several back-clicks to get back to where you were.

This actually doesnt happen in safari


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LordAtomaton

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Posted at: 5/28/09 02:40 AM

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i do like the fact that we can finally change the auto-play feature
kinda annoying if you ask me...

To think im surrounded by idiots

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I honestly have to say Classic mode looks BETTER than the old design.


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YAY! now i can stop whining


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idiot-monarch

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One slight problem with classic mode: you can't see the title of the movie anywhere on the page.


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Posted at: 5/28/09 03:31 AM

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Lovely job! I like the layout , how it blows up. This may bring more artists and viewers to the site because it's got nice presentation. I dunno if any other site does this, but that BLOW UP feature is great! Wowsers.

Hmm, it's possible Newgrounds may lose some comments, reviews, and submission activities.
Becuase the content is at the very top suffocating the interactivity that used to be easily seen.

Review, vote, add favorites etc. There may be a possible drop in that. But in general, it's great presentation. It may drop in the beginning, but maybe it'll go back up. People get used to places they like ;).

Is there possible consideration to foreshadow there are things directly related to the content below?
Like 'Authors Coments Below!" very skinny or something on the side.

Hands down lovely job. Lovely progression, great vibe, and wonderful presentation. Let's see Newgrounds grow.


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Posted at: 5/28/09 03:34 AM

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I only read a few pages of post, but it's clear from Tom's comments that the NG staff seems well aware of an online community's resistance to change. The recent Facebook layout change is a great example of this. People flipped out when the whole site changed recently, and I mean REALLY flipped out. There were all these new groups with hundreds of thousands of members dedicated to flaming the new layout. However, within a week or so, it all calmed down, because once people had gotten over the loss of their old, familiar layout, they began to see the benefits of the new one. After all, the NG staff is smart, and they would not throw a new layout at us if there had not been immense amounts of thought and consideration put into it. I hope that people have to balls to give this layout a shot for a week or so before they pass judgment, because otherwise they'll miss out on its potential.

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Posted at: 5/28/09 03:45 AM

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I like the new layout and it's good to see you raising the bar with updates. Keep up the good work!

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Very tasty! Great with the opportunity to enlarge the format, taht was useful. :)


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Yes! Awesomeness. Thanks.


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Posted at: 5/28/09 04:17 AM

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This is terrible for people like me who access Newgrounds on lower-resolution screens of 800pixels wide (portables, etc.).

Can you please make a special "mobile version" of Newgrounds, if you are set on having the standard definition be accessible only to high-resolution screens?

It seems to me that this wide layout does not add anything to the site except more horizontal space.


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Posted at: 5/28/09 04:21 AM

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In My Dreams?

Wide Layout Update 1

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Thanks for the option to stop auto-play. I think I'm getting used to it now.

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Ok, to be honest, it's not that bad.

It's definitely worse than it was before, yes (the layout fit my screen perfectly before), but not much worse than Youtube anyway; it just forces me to scroll sideways to see certain parts of the page.

But I do wonder if more and more people won't be accessing Newgrounds via small internet-capable devices in the future (that seems to be the trend), which would mean that the wide resolution would actually be a bad thing.

So it might be a good idea to invest some time in creating a "mobile" version of NG, if it's not too hard...

Personally, I will be getting the OpenPandora handheld soon (800px-wide screen) and using it to access Newgrounds. I assume that other people will be accessing this website from iPhone-like devices also.


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At 5/28/09 01:38 AM, scottmale24 wrote:
At 5/28/09 01:29 AM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: You guys should look into this new thing called "css". I'm about to and it's kinda neagt, should really help the site evolve.
You know what newgrounds is missing? Some animated GIFs and a good midi background. Think you could help?

i miss my old geocities website now ),:


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At 5/28/09 04:40 AM, Esn wrote: Ok, to be honest, it's not that bad.

My laptop resolution just supports the wide layout by about a pixel. It's really in your face on my computer and seems clunky without those sidebars on the un-wide Newgrounds if you know what I am saying.

I guess that's what you get from living in the 2005 generation of laptop monitors.

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I dont get why your trying to throw more ads in. Most people here have adblock >_> And "Evolve and adapt" is a terrible excuse for throwing more ads in a pulling in more tweens.


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At 5/28/09 04:21 AM, JarrodK wrote: In My Dreams?

Wouldn't work that way, sometimes the "You might like these" is under the movie in a long bar like table due to the original size of the movie.

I think they should move author/movie info and commentary above the flash, and that the similar movies should always be in the minimal bar form under the flash. :X

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At 5/28/09 05:02 AM, cast wrote:
At 5/28/09 04:21 AM, JarrodK wrote: In My Dreams?
Wouldn't work that way, sometimes the "You might like these" is under the movie in a long bar like table due to the original size of the movie.

uh, I see the predicament.


I think they should move author/movie info and commentary above the flash, and that the similar movies should always be in the minimal bar form under the flash. :X

I think the Flash author information panel should move out its classic format (a small box in the left corner) and just become 1 GIANT horizontal panel that covers the width of the web page. This would also appear with the comments above the flash.

Ah well, I'll leave the design up to the people actually programming it.

Maybe we could edit the layout similar to our userpage?

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