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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 14:19:53


At 8/26/06 01:24 PM, fremen13 wrote:
Also, I'm testing for my second degree on the 9th....

Good luck to you! Hope it goes well.

Let us know what that test involves.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 14:56:31


At 8/26/06 01:24 PM, fremen13 wrote: ...Im Back!!!!!!!!

Also, I'm testing for my second degree on the 9th....

9/9/06

Hell yeah

You do realize this is the third time you have posted the date you are taking your test? Something isn't going to come up again is it? Just in case I think I'll hold of on any congradulations and just wish you good luck, hope you can make it this time :P

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So I finally finished watching that program on the national pornogra... ermm... I mean, The National Geographic Channel called Fight Science. I found it quite interesting and I did enjoy it, hopefully I learned something aswell. However I did have a couple problems with it, the kicking for power for one. Now I know that certain styles emphesize certain things more than others but the way they put it one would think that Tae Kwon Do practitioners were far superior at the spinning rear kick than say karate practitioners or that the kick is exclusive to Tae Kwon Do. In my style we do a spinning rear kick and not to sound arrogent but I'm pretty good at it. So the actual problem that I had with that part of the program was that the spinning rear kick itself may have simply been a more powerful kick that the crossing side kick that they chose to use to represent karate. Also throughout the program they, to my remembrance, did not once even imply the fact that the 'superiority' of nearly any martial art technique relies mostly with the individual practitioner.

For example, they did a test of speed using the example of hand strikes. The results showed the Kung Fu practitioner as the fastest in the bunch, however the program failed to mention that and simply stated that Kung Fu was the fastest when in reality it was only one Kung Fu practitioner who was faster than a few other martial artists who all trained in different arts.

Many other similar instances aside it was a good program, I just wouldn't suggest choosing a new martial art to take based on it.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 16:26:18


Heck, this program is just damn cool, the records are for the individuals and not for the whole style, because each one is different and.. err yeah.
Gonna see this show tommorow I guess, downloaded it because it will get here by October (many sent emails to the Israeli National Geographic channel to air it and it worked).
I was really surprised at some of the results, such as the spinning back kick or the knee err kick.
I saw a few that debated about the show, but agreed that overall right or wrong or whatever, it will be hella cool :D


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 18:30:29


At 8/26/06 02:56 PM, ThunderboltLegion wrote:
At 8/26/06 01:24 PM, fremen13 wrote: ...Im Back!!!!!!!!

Also, I'm testing for my second degree on the 9th....

9/9/06

Hell yeah
You do realize this is the third time you have posted the date you are taking your test? Something isn't going to come up again is it? Just in case I think I'll hold of on any congradulations and just wish you good luck, hope you can make it this time :P

...yeah...

I get really bored sometimes.

Also, I looked up fight science in Youtube.com and they have a link to the official website.

So here it is: http://www.ngcfightscience.com

Interesting, since the first two letters are NG.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 21:41:57


Well i understand the problems you guys had with the individual over the style itself since it is true. A tae kwon do guy could be faster than that guy but thats just how they decided to do it i guess.

And in all fairness of the strong kick one, the guy was also pulling the target into his knee as well.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-26 23:34:35


Well, this is totally off the subject at hand but I am so happy about it I felt like sharing.

My master went out of town for the week and I am subing as the master of the school in his absence. I get to teach all the classes, I get to run his business, I get to call all the shots! No one is above me, i hold so much power!! I've had to run the school while he was gone before but this is the first time he left me to teach his classes, Mr. T and Mr. Salvidor usually cover him but this time he decided I was good enough to take over his classes while he was away. It is almost like I am him for a couple of days.

It is also funny how the kids at my school have trouble saying "Yes Ma'am" to me, they are so used to "Yes Sir" that they just can't get that out.

This brings me to a question, in you'lls dojo's do you have meany female instructors?

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 00:13:32


At 8/26/06 09:41 PM, dsmking wrote: And in all fairness of the strong kick one, the guy was also pulling the target into his knee as well.

Yeah that is true, I didn't even mention that!

Inuma:
That's really cool! My instructor probably wouldn't put me in charge like that (mostly because one of the other instructors is his best friend from high school and his former room mate). So perhaps a congradulations would be in order :)

Female instructors in my school number 3. One is a full-fledged instructor capable of teaching private lessons and adult group classes (she's in her late 30s early 40s), another is the gymnastics instructor who also on occation teaches kids group class (she's in her mid 30s) and the third in capable only of teaching kids group classes as she is a junior instructor (she's 13). There are a couple other female students who have expresses interest in becoming instructors, mostly kids though and we already have enough junior instructors.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 00:52:59


At 8/26/06 11:34 PM, InumaAsahiDe wrote: My master went out of town for the week and I am subing as the master of the school in his absence. I get to teach all the classes, I get to run his business, I get to call all the shots! No one is above me, i hold so much power!!

It is also funny how the kids at my school have trouble saying "Yes Ma'am" to me, they are so used to "Yes Sir" that they just can't get that out.

Now try not to get carried away with your awesome, temporary, Power........ You big meany! ;)

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 01:11:56


At 8/27/06 12:52 AM, Monocrom wrote:
Now try not to get carried away with your awesome, temporary, Power........ You big meany! ;)

I won't, the big deal behind it though, is that there is a chance once I graduate college that Mr. Holan will allow me to run this particular school while he starts to open up other schools. If I do well everytime he is away and there are no explosions or deaths under my management I come a step closer to taking over a school. He would still be my boss and I would answer to him always but I would have the say in everyday things at that school while he works at another one in another county.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 01:16:09


opps sorry for the double post and all but

Thunderbolt:

Thats cool, you have female instructors. I myself am a assitent instructor and we have another female assistant in out school, she is fourteen and about to become a blackbelt. We have 3 junoir female instructors,2 male junoir instructors, and 4 assisant male instructors total. I go to a varily large school, we have a total of 160 some odd students. I really don't know the average amount of students for a normal school but from what I have seen that is quite a few for just an inhome karate school. How many does your school have, students I mean?

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 02:11:01


Lets see here, my instructor keeps a list of all the lessons and labels them by last name. Last time I checked there were seventy last names on the list, however this doesn't mean there are just seventy students, many of the lessons have more than one person in them. A rough estimate would be about 130 to 150 students all total, including instructors.

I don't know if your school could be considered big or not, average at the very least if not above average. I know some schools have a hard time just keeping the number above a hundred while some have no fewer than two hundred. It all depends on the crowd that the school caters to and the advertizing, if a school caters to families and/or small children then it can become very large. I knew of a school in another state that that would pick up little kids from school and take them right to the McDojo, that type of school can become very large but the quality suffers (obviously). Well I could go on and on but I really don't have a point so I think I'll stop now.

Since you gave a rundown of all the instructors in your school I feel compelled to do the same. Regular instructors include (in order of experience) the owner of the school, his friend from highschool, me, a husband and wife and two other guys, so 7 regular instructors. Then there is the gymnastics instructor (who has when needed taught private lessons but she's only a green belt so she doesn't do that often, and as I mentioned she also teaches kids group classes from time to time). Then there are three junior/assistant instructors, two sixteen year old guys and a thirteen year old girl who are able to teach kids group classes but not private lessons. So eleven instructors all total. We've had a few others at different times, most even before I started teaching, but they all had to quit for various reasons (leaving for the military/moving away and all that, in fact one moved to Texas for his career).


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 03:19:10


At 8/27/06 02:11 AM, ThunderboltLegion wrote: I knew of a school in another state that that would pick up little kids from school and take them right to the McDojo, that type of school can become very large but the quality suffers (obviously). Well I could go on and on but I really don't have a point so I think I'll stop now.

To be honest, I think the parents and that school's Instructors knew it was basically an after-school day care center for until the parents got home from work. Bet you they were charged a premium for the pick-up service.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 11:49:01


At 8/27/06 03:19 AM, Monocrom wrote:
At 8/27/06 02:11 AM, ThunderboltLegion wrote: I knew of a school in another state that that would pick up little kids from school and take them right to the McDojo, that type of school can become very large but the quality suffers (obviously). Well I could go on and on but I really don't have a point so I think I'll stop now.
To be honest, I think the parents and that school's Instructors knew it was basically an after-school day care center for until the parents got home from work. Bet you they were charged a premium for the pick-up service.

wow...that is kinda pathetic...

Anyways, how old does one have to be to enter in your schools?

Our school starts at 4 or 5.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 13:15:29


Number of students at my school-

My new school is very new so we cant have any more than 50 students. My old Hapkido school that I taught at was fucking huge. We had a little over 300 students. Belt testing was a disaster because we had everyone there testing at the same time and the little kids usually had parents, grandparents, friends and other family to tag along as spectators. Our school was pretty good size, we were located in a shopping center so we attracted a lot of people. Belt testings we're probably our biggest time for advertising the school beause me, and some of the other students would put on demos.

Age requirement-

My old Hapkido school had a little dragons program (which I taught) that would take kids as little as 4 years old. Our youngest student was Master Instructor's daughter who was 3. Our oldest student was a lady in her late 70s. Very nice lady, she was my favorite to teach. Yes, I have favorites, admit it some of you do too. They tell us not to treat anyone differently and that everyone should be taught the same but I cant help but hate the macho freaks that think they can kick anyone's ass. Or little Timmy that cries when he doesnt get his way.

In case anyone is wondering I am talking about my old school because I was there the longest and I taught there. I have no idea how my new school works, nor do I care.

My weekend-

I got to attend a belt testing at my new school where they had my sitting on the black belt panel which consists of myself, our two instructors, and a visiting black belt. We only had 5 people testing which was great. Everyone did well but it reminded me of how much I had being on the panel. I cant stand sitting there while everyone else gets to be thrown. I start to get antsy. Afterwards we went out and ate Korean and talked about Hapkido politics. My new organization is run by someone my old instructor used to train under and had a falling out with so we shared Hapkido gossip. Ive heard 20 different versions of the same story and how a lot of people in my style hate our modern day founder. Does anyone else have quack instructors in your style or in your area that everyone wonders about? Lets hear some stories. :P

So how was everyone else's weekend?

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 13:34:29


From where I am in Texas my school is actually varily big. In Irving and Dallas Texas most karate schools reach about 70 to 80 students before they even out. At my schools last peek two years ago we had roughly 200, then Irving hit a dry spell and a lot of places closed down. We have a lot of Dojo's that are within a block of each other in Irving, which is why my master wants to go out to a place called Frisco, there are no dojo's there but he doesn't have the money to move yet.

Age's of Starting:

My school offers a Little Dragon's Program also which is taught by one of our assiatant instructors who is fourteen years old. So we actually start, depending on the childs mind set, at about 3 to 4. We have one little girl who just turned 3 and we decided to let her in because she acts like shes older.

Belt Testing:

Belt testing in my school can be hectic but after years upon years of doing this my head instructor deviced a way to do it with minamal amount of thought on his part. what he actually does is called the Stripping Method. Throughout the two months that lower belts have to wait to test from one belt to another he teaches them everything and then when he sees that they can do it and understand it he gives them a strip on their belt, when they get all the strips required for their belt level they are allowed to test. This way when they go into the test Mr. H already knows that they can pass it and so he doesn't have to watch as closely for their mistakes unless you are an advanced level belt.

Advanced level belts starting at brown have to go into what we call the BrownBelt Class, if you are in that class the stripping really isn't used and you have to go into the test upon your own will with your own confidence. Still, none of the little kids or even some teenagers realise with have this system of training at my school, and we have had kids fail their test, it is not very often but every once in a while they do.

In the long run I guess you can say Mr. H won't let someone test if he thinks they can't pass or if he believes they are not ready to test mentally or physically.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 13:37:35


At 8/27/06 01:15 PM, Satanic_Samurai wrote: Number of students at my school-

My new school is very new so we cant have any more than 50 students. My old Hapkido school that I taught at was fucking huge. We had a little over 300 students. Belt testing was a disaster because we had everyone there testing at the same time and the little kids usually had parents, grandparents, friends and other family to tag along as spectators. Our school was pretty good size, we were located in a shopping center so we attracted a lot of people. Belt testings we're probably our biggest time for advertising the school beause me, and some of the other students would put on demos.

My school has >200 students and 2 dojos, located about 10-30 miles away from eachother.

My weekend-

I got to attend a belt testing at my new school where they had my sitting on the black belt panel which consists of myself, our two instructors, and a visiting black belt. We only had 5 people testing which was great. Everyone did well but it reminded me of how much I had being on the panel. I cant stand sitting there while everyone else gets to be thrown. I start to get antsy. Afterwards we went out and ate Korean and talked about Hapkido politics. My new organization is run by someone my old instructor used to train under and had a falling out with so we shared Hapkido gossip. Ive heard 20 different versions of the same story and how a lot of people in my style hate our modern day founder. Does anyone else have quack instructors in your style or in your area that everyone wonders about? Lets hear some stories. :P

They let any Black belts >13 years of age go on test as instructors. I've only been on 1 Black belt test as an instructor, and both kids who I tortured, I mean, tested personally, said that my part of the test was definetely in the top two hardest parts of the test.

Also, in regards to gossip and stuff, we only get very local stuff, and even that, I don't pay much attention to.

So how was everyone else's weekend?

I just came back from vacation, and school starts in 3 days.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 15:20:09


Number of students in my school is a crazy number which is somewhere around 600 signed up but probably only half that show up for classes still.

We usually will allow students to start at 3 but rarely we will get a 2 year old.

Female instructos. There have been quite a few at my school but right now we only have one assistant instructor.

As far as being in charge of the school is concerned not likely at the moment. There are 2 master instructors above me at this school and then 2 other instructors who are above me. So the likely hood of me being in charge is zilch.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 15:44:29


To: fr13-

R.B.S.D. schools don't have a kids program. Brutally effective self-defense techniques are generally not what parents want for their 5 year-old. It varies from school-to-school. 18 is the average age I'd say.

Glad to hear you don't pay attention to martial arts gossip.
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To: satan-

My weekend was just BLAH. Ever have one of those weekends where you plan to do something, but time just seems to run out on you, and you're just feeling a bit out of it? (Not drunk or high, but just out of it). Well, that was my weekend. I didn't get done what I had hoped to do, so hopefully I'll have enough time to get it done after work on Monday........ At least my story thread on the General forum is a big hit. :)

It's unfortunate when there's a falling out....... Mostly because it leads to gossip and (usually) childish behavior from one of the parties. It's one of the things I love about R.B.S.D., you're expected to go to different Instructors to learn as much as you can. And, all the most well-known different Instructors know each other (or "of" each other). So it's usually all good.

Regarding quack Instructors -- Sadly, quite a few in R.B.S.D.
The other problem is that you have some Instructors who HAVE the knowledge to teach, but can be so closed-minded that their students can have a great deal of trouble learning. To me, that's almost as useless as being a con-man or an arm-chair warrior.

For the past few months, I've spent quite a bit of time at the forums run by one of R.B.S.D.'s Founders, Sammy Franco. There were little things here & there that bothered me, usually when he'd post. I'd like to show examples of what I mean, but the forum (and everyone's posts from March until now) were deleted; and replaced with the old forums on that site that were up until Feb. of this year........ Just a bunch of little things that added up to a bad taste in my mouth. I won't be attending his C.F.A. variation of R.B.S.D. anytime soon. Unless you're desperate for good instruction, I don't think you should take a martial arts style at a particular school where you feel uneasy or uncomfortable.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 17:18:59


Female Instructors: Officially, we only have 1, but anyone whos 13 or above can help teach so we have a good number of females who help teach.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 23:44:59


At 8/27/06 01:15 PM, Satanic_Samurai wrote: Does anyone else have quack instructors in your style or in your area that everyone wonders about? Lets hear some stories. :P

I've heard several, a couple directly from Al Tracy during one of his seminars but I can't recal them. Being one of the older styles in America it's only natural that there are quite a few stories of interest, like the one about Elvis Preslys wife breaking up with him over a uniform color while training under Ed Parker, but I think I already posted that one.

So how was everyone else's weekend?

What is this weekend you speak of? Seriously, it all just blends together to one mass streach of time but I think it was okay, except for one thing. Friday night I stayed up really late (till like 3:30) because I didn't have anything to do in the morning, then 7:45 comes along and I get a phone call from one of the other instructors asking me to come in for him that morning because he's not feeling well. After a few seconds of mumbling into the phone trying to understand what's going on I reluctantly agree, so I take a shower and just as I'm getting out he calls again and says that he's decided to just go in anyway and that I didn't need to come up. I could have killed him I would have been so angry but I was too tired, but I couldn't go back to bed because I had just taken a shower and I can never fall asleep after that, so AAAARRRRGGGGG. But I learned a leson and from now on I will turn off my cell phone at night.

that was pointless, oh well...

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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-27 23:47:52


Opps, sorry for the double post.

Age of students:
The youngest we ever had was a two year old boy who turned three several weeks later. We too have a little dragons class run by the owner of the school, it's pretty small though, just two kids in it and one of them is the owners three year old daughter.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 10:49:57


At 8/28/06 12:22 AM, ChineseGothKid wrote: I can't remember who it was that said Tai Kwon Do is not very good for self defense, but, I had to use it for that the other day. Some punk thought he'd try to bully me into giving him what I had in my pockets. I just said, "Boy, I'd start runnin' if I were you, cuz things are about to get real ugly real quick." I had to show him that I was serious. I don't take crap from anyone, apart from my little brother, but he's 9, so I don't mind takin' crap from him. Just another day in my life where something interesting happened.

Ah......... I think you left out a few details.

What happened after you gave him that Warning, backed by the confidence of the fact that you know martial arts? Did he run away or back off because he could sense you were serious?............ The truth is, that type of Warning is not exclusive to TKD.

Could you please elaborate?

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 12:26:49


At 8/28/06 10:49 AM, Monocrom wrote: The truth is, that type of Warning is not exclusive to TKD.

Well, we aren't even taught to warn people, just to avoid the fight.

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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 16:33:21


For some reason it isn't letting me send you a private message fremen, so I'm just posing my responce to your latest PM here.

On the subject of katas/forms:

Well lets try this, I'll just talk about katas, if what I type doesn't help then hopefully it can give you some ideas for what to write about of for some questions to ask me.

Forms (or katas) are initially done to enhance your blocking and punching speed and form. Later on, katas, instead of being made up of basic blocks, punches and kicks, are made up of techniques, the purpose then slightly shifts. They are still meant to enhance speed and form but in multiple combonations involving not only blocks, punches and kicks but also grabs, breaks, arm bars, and whole host of different martial arts 'techniques'.

Specific forms are taught at each belt, a basic blocking drill to get yellow belt all the way up to a highly complex form consisting of up to fifteen techniques performed twice each (once off each side) to get to black belt.

We have taken several forms from other styles in the past and adopted them as our own, mostly because originally Kenpo had no forms, it was all techniques. We have at least two open handed Kung Fu forms (that I know of), one of which was "watered down" to create yet another form. Though as I implied before, most of our traditional Kenpo forms are made up of the previously mentioned techniques and very small transitions from one to another.

I personally feel that katas are one of the best tools an instructor has to gauge their students progression. Examples: the ease at which the student transitions from one part to another, the power demonstrated, the speed at which the kata can be performed but also the ability to control that speed so as to allow enough time to properly emphesize each and every individual move, etc...

On top of that katas can be a good demonstration of stamina, if you can perform several complex forms back to back with out a show of great effort then you have demonstrated athletic ability which is important in martial arts.

Weapons forms especially are good for demonstrating control, depending on what weapon you are using if you don't have good control then you may cut or stab yourself.

Well that's about all I can think of right now.

Just so you know I have to leave in about an hour for karate tonight, I will be on later tonight and if nothing comes up I will be on all day tomorrow as I have nothing better to do than browse Newgrounds in my spare time.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 16:50:25


Yeah, my essays should be done by 5:45 EST, so thanks for the help. I'm already 1/2 way through the first one (history of Kenpo).


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 17:28:09


Oh yeah, also, when I first joined this club I mentioned the essays, and Mono asked to read them, so after I go to Karate, I'll post them.


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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 20:15:37


...right, I'm just going to post my exact Essay (which is filled with errors and such):
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In the present times, there are many different styles of Kenpo (or Kempo) Karate. Ken-Ryu Karate is a style which has the literal translation of Versatile System. This style was made by Shihan Alan D’Allessandro. It incorporates many Martial arts, including American Kenpo, Ju Jitsu, Judo, Boxing, and numerous others.
American Kenpo Karate, made by Ed Parker, was based on traditional Japanese and originally Chinese Kenpo. This martial art is very similar to Ken-Ryu Kenpo. It uses stances, hand strikes, kicks, and blocks to teach the basic movements, as does Ken-Ryu Kenpo. One of the more noticeable differences is when they bow, they do a series of movements, when Ken-Ryu Kenpo simply bends over.
Other than minor things like this, the biggest difference between Ken-Ryu Kenpo is that it is specifically made to be adaptable in any situation. We use basic techniques that can defend against almost any attack, and learn to add and change those techniques according to situation.
There are many differences in the ways we practice our martial art also. We use drills that emphasize realistic situations, and acting on impulse. Other schools are known to just drill techniques and forms over and over until they are perfect. In our school/style, there is no need for perfection, only efficiency and effectiveness.
Lastly, our style is organized differently than other styles. In the traditional Ed Parker system there are 144 different techniques, and each has a different name. Many other Kenpo schools organize it like this too. Our school breaks up the techniques by attack and the style of defense. We have combinations, which are our basic punch defenses, kenpos, which are the more versatile punch techniques. We also have animal techniques, grab defenses, knife and gun defenses, and many other categories. This makes Ken-Ryu Kenpo different than most other Kenpo schools.
In short, Ken-Ryu Kenpo is very different than other Kenpo styles these days, but the underlying theories and practices remain the same.
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The history of Kenpo Karate is not one of the most well known ones, but is definitely one of the most interesting ones. Like all martial arts in general, its history traces back to ancient India, where monks invented and used martial arts to defend themselves. Kenpo then, as an art, moved to China, where the Chinese Shaolin temple developed it further. “Kempo is the power of adaptability and yielding; the harmony of all things working together.” This was said by a shaolin monk, and a master of Kempo Karate.
This art was practiced in China for hundreds of years until 1600, when the Mitose family studied it and brought it back to Japan. When they did so, they renamed it Koshu-Ryu, meaning Old Pine Tree Style. The Mitose family then studied and practiced the art of Koshu-Ryu Kenpo for about 3 centuries.
In the early 1900s, the American born James Mitose studied Koshu-Ryu Kenpo in Japan. After the training under his uncle was complete, he traveled back to Hawaii (his place of birth) and opened a Kenpo school there. While he was the master of that Kenpo School, he issued only six black belt (instructor) certificates. Of these six instructors, one was William K.S. Chow.
William Chow previously studied Kung-Fu before attending Mitose’s school, and when he opened his new school, he fused together his Kung-Fu and Kenpo backgrounds to make Chinese Kara-Ho Kempo Karate. When he opened his own dojo, he used Kenpo instead of Kempo to make a distinct variation of Mitose’s school.
Chow’s most noted student was Edmund Parker. In 1954, Parker received his Black belt in Chinese Kenpo from Chow’s school. In 1964, when Parker held his first tournament, he became known to the American public. Later, when he opened his school near Hollywood, he trained many famous celebrities such as Elvis Presley. He trained more until he perfected his own style of Kenpo, which was called American Kenpo, the system used know by many Karate schools in America.
Chow and Parker both trained and held tournaments, until Nick Cerio met Ed Parker in a tournament. They talked, and afterwards Parker set up a meeting between Cerio and Chow. Cerio trained under Chow and learned the art of Kenpo through him. Cerio trained very hard and was even personally trained by Chow in 1967. Chow saw potential in Cerio, and told him to develop his own style of Kenpo that would be more applicable in the United States. In 1971, Cerio received his Godan from Professor Chow and stopped his training under Chow.
In the next three years, Professor Cerio trained in many numerous martial arts and weapons, and ended up training under Ed Parker. With Parker’s guidance, he opened his school named Nick Cerio’s Kenpo. It is here that my Shihan received training, which brings the story up to present day.
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The first one is the differences between Ken-Ryu kenpo (my art) and other Kenpo arts, and the second one is the history of Kenpo.

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Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 21:17:52


Thats a very impressive essay Fremen, have you written more?

Thunder:

You are forgetting on thing that katas are good for origanally. they were designed to teach on how to put techniques together for sparring and later fighting. So the naturally progession goes slightly further and ends up as a kata being an actual fight. That is why instructors constantly tell you to look before you do a technique because in a fight you would have to look to see an oponate coming.

Warning before fights:

i'm with fremen on this one. In my form of TKD we are taught to avoid the situation but if it progresses and there is nothing you can do we are also taught how to overcome a situation. We learn both self defense and offensive things. so in the long runa fter 14 years of this now, I have come to see that a warning isn't nessaciary because you, as a martial artist should let them throw the first blow, if its to someone else or to yourself.

but still as I have seen it the most effective threat in the martail arts is a good stance and a loud kia. There was this one time at my school where a bunch of kids were outside yelling and cusing our students out as they came into the school. my master went outside gave them his death glare went into a fighting stance, gave his echoing kia and the next thing we know the kids are running trying to hold their baggy pants up. Best part was when one of them tripped and fell so Mr. H yells again and he got up and ran with his pants around his ankles.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 23:11:14


Oh god! i havent beem here in a while!

sorry i havent been here, ive been playing Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams for days now...nonstop.

hmm....its been a while scince ive been to class.

i start school wednsday......god damn, im not ready to go back yet :(

hopefuly school wont interfere with MA.

Response to Martial Arts Club 2006-08-28 23:13:07


At 8/28/06 08:15 PM, fremen13 wrote: Essay

Very nice, interesting read, except for one thing.

William Chow previously studied Kung-Fu before attending Mitose’s school,

Sun Chow Hoon (William Chows father) was born in 1880 and came to Hawaii in 1899 at the age of 19, while in China he was married and had kids. This alone doesn't give him much time to have become a Shaolin priest, not to mention the fact that Shaolin priests didn't marry. When he came over from China he left his family there, ten years later in 1909 at the age of 29 he married Rose Naehu, this union would result in the birth of William Chow. Sun Chow Hoon wasn't allowed to visit his family in China by his wife, and he still wouldn't until three years after her death in 1925.

I could go on but my point is made, William Chow never studied Kung Fu...


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