nah its just edy projecting again

Yup, and that's Sequence's contribution to the thread.

i dont care about someone hating on a particular political ideology - what i do care about is someone being two - faced claiming to be one thing and saying another.

never mind

These are two separate problems. Both need to be dealt with. Arguing which is worse will get you nowhere.

In that case have you considered switching to a party that better represents you?

I don't see a point in switching parties, since I live in California, and like to see more balance here since many Democrats here go to far to the left with some of their loony policies, but many Republicans are making it harder to support them when they channel Trumpism. A recent example was Larry Elders, a radio conservative political commentator, who was running in the gubernatorial recall election (which was started by Trumpers), and he didn't offer any specific details an anything but to channel Trumpism... And the Republicans I do support don't excite the base to turn out and vote for them, so they usually lose. And 3rd parties have the luxury of having nothing to show for since they have never been in power, so they can over promise the world to naive people for their blind support, while knowing they won't ever be in power.

Best Nirvana album, but a bit overrated.

Well, there aren't that many Nirvana albums to choose from, and Nirvana in general are a bit overrated.

Can you name some Republicans that you support? Do you vote?

I have been voting for almost 30 years now. Bush H. was the first one I voted for, and this was over his attempt for a 2nd term - though he lost. Bod Dole was the 2nd in 96. Didn't vote for either Bush or Gore in 2000, but supported Kerry in 2004, because I was disgusted by the Iraq war... Voted for Obama both times, then threw away my vote on Trump in 2016 because I didn't like either of the candidates. I would have voted for Kaisach in 2016 over Trump. Republicans I would support for any White House run would be Jon Huntsmen, Jeff Flake, or even Mitt Romney

Do you have any predictions for who the frontrunner in the 2024 election will be? If Trump runs again, would you vote for him? Do you think him or Biden will run again?

2022: Republicans going crazy over Biden confirming he will choose a black woman for the supreme court pick.

2020: Republican President saying he will pick a woman for the supreme court pick and it is completely fine.

Cognitive dissonance.

Honorable Dr. Reverend Mr. President Donald J Trump, PhD.: “If I run & if I win, we will treat those people from January 6th fairly. We will treat them fairly. And if it requires pardons, we will give them pardons. Because they are being treated so unfairly.”

He has my vote! But its not enough to just pardon the innocent, he must begin prosecutions himself.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1487620394290974725

This is mainly just opinion based on observation but I will say this.

If the Republican Party got it's shit together and it's priorities straight then I'd be happy to vote for some of their politicians. But to be honest that hasn't happened for a few years since the W. Bush era (maybe even before that)

The problem is that since there's been a shift in mindset where the older Republicans who are boomers and the less educated shifted a little more to the hardcore side of conservatism over the past few years where it is beginning to borderline into fascist territory, that isn't to say that it will but it's a little scary to think that the G.O.P. is allowing for that kind of thing to happen and disapprove that. Trump getting into the political circle didn't help that either and personally I question whether or not it's going to help stabilize the party in that regard until someone finally uses some tact to call out Trump and get him to fuck off.

And that's the problem the Republican party faces. It does not help when the majority of the party is filled with a couple of religious folk who think that pushing Christianity onto others is going to help either when that will alienate voters. That's where it's become difficult for me to tolerate the Conservative side of things as it is now because of the cultural and social aspect of politics. It does not help when Democrats are too superficial with the issues and only tell you the things you want to hear. With people getting more extreme on their views both sides of the aisle it's very difficult to be moderate because no matter what balanced opinion you have you get called a centrist, a term that very recently I have felt lost it's meaning and more as a buzzword to disregard the opinions of others.

I say this more or less because I opted not to vote in 2016. Had it been any other candidate than Trump I actually would have voted on the Republican side despite the fact that I disagree with them on many social issues and feeling that Obama, despite being the lesser evil back in 2008 and 2012 between McCain and Mitt Romney wasn't all that great on the financial side of things.

Not really. At the moment Trump is still campaigning, and raking in campaign donations as if he was going to run in 2024, making money from that, and his social media service "TRUTH" scam, but he has yet to officially announce it. This has caused a rift among him and Ron DeSantis, a Trumpist, who has 2024 ambitions, and leads in the polls as a potential 2024 GOP front runner. But, he can't announce it as long as Trump keeps hinting at it to keep campaign money flowing into his coffers, and gets attention from it. And I suspect that other Trump loyalists who want to also run in 2024 are getting antsy as well.

As for Biden, there's been some rumors about a shakeup going into the 2024 election, but that is all. Biden, by all accounts, is still healthy and he can still run for a 2nd term.

A Republican Rep criticizing Dr. Fauci, while using a quote from a Neo Nazi but attributing it to Voltaire who never said it:

US Rep. Thomas Massie shared a quote on Twitter he misattributed to French philosopher Voltaire. It was actually said by an American neo-Nazi.

prosecutions for what, dare i ask

Trust the plan.

this is such a confusing subject.

First, trump bragged on about how "he" developed vaccines in "record time", and how they're so safe and reliable. And back then, if I recall correctly, a lot of Democrats weren't really all so sure about "Trump's" "record-breaking" vaccines. But now the tables have turned, which leads me to believe that it's not a particular party that opposes the vaccines, but whoever takes the mantle of the opposition.

Look at all the protests in canada, germany, france... could they all be labeled as potential trump supporters, or far-right? What about the UK? Boris did a no-no and as a sort of "reward" for the people, he let go of the restrictions (which changes nothing about him btw, he's still an a-hole, just like the rest of them).

isn't rfk a democrat?

Can you provide proof of Democrats being "not really sure about Trump's record breaking vaccines"? I don't remember that at all and feel like you are just making it up.

As a republican I don't really care. Just give me a qualified person that will uphold the law.

It's the same bullcrap the right falls into when it comes to black folk having conversative views. Like it's more common than you think, don't need to worship it.

Definitely agreed.

And while it is obvious the Democrats are putting it out there to virtue signal, I assume any pick they make will be qualified for the role. Personally I would have preferred if they just made the pick without all the fanfare, but messaging for the Democrats has always been a problem.

*looks it up*

looks like he was back in 2000, at least, and can't find evidence of him changing

huh, well i'll be damned

whoopsie, republicans are not responsible for that one, my mistake

i don't know what that means

let's try again

prosecutions for what

Please stop taking out of your arse.

It’s just a horrible bastardisation of tying lessening restrictions to party-gate.

You mean Operation Warp Speed. And I didn't hear much opposition from Democrats back then to it, outside of outrage from them over the person leading it, who had a 10 million stake in a company that was receiving govermnet funds from the operation, raising ethical concerns.

Most of the outrage over vaccines has always come from the whiny liberals, who also consider themselves conservatives, right wing, right-wing libertarians, or who knows what. In part, this stems from right-wing media, and just anti-government fringe sites (conspiracy sites), always bringing doubt over the pandemic since it's start, while often blaming China for it...

Their natural distrust of govermnet, anti-regulations, and pro-business approach, were just natural conditions to oppose everything about the pandemic, which leaders like Trump knew, and obliged, because they wanted to get reelected among them. Though, Trump probably didn't realize their would be this much backlash from his own base to his vaccines, which he is now getting booed for when promoting them at his rallies.

And this right-wing mentality over regulation, anti-government, pro-business, and culture, can be applied to other countries. And I believe the vast majority of Truck drivers are just naturally conservative.

This is unironically the best time for the republican party. Trump shattered the system by fking over the neocons and evangelicals which were both a demographic of a certain age. These spineless bastards promoted their half baked american century plan without a thought to logical outcomes and they worked hand in hand to destroy the wealth of the empire with democrat neocons.

However with Trump and time, these two factions are dying off and out. So there is an extreme power vaccuum that is finally getting filled with more libertarian and constitutionally minded folks. This is the best outcome as it is slowly reinvigorating the party to become a party that actually takes charge on issues and comes up with a proactive stance versus just maintaining status quo.

One of the big issues for the GOP was that they were never for anything, only historically anti-democratic because democrats push the envelope. I think its hilarious now that so many lolbertarians are flooding the party and displacing the evangelicals and moral authoritarians which have flowed towards the democratic party.

I mean just look at the party since 2015 or so. We went from Marco Rubio being sussy baka in the 90s to having Milo be the frontboi for daddy Trump. We have Blaire White being the voice of reason into the LGBT bagel spaces. It's hilarious. It's like 90% of 4chan lolberts hit voting age all at once and are subtly transforming the party into a lolbert paradise instead of getting hoovered up into the green or libertarian party.

I think its very clear that the party is changing and at the low level. The lol level, people are just accepting being called racist which was the biggest stumbling block for the GOP. I'd rather be a member of a party with overtly racist subtext than covertly racist ideology driven moralistic garbage that pretends to give lip service to a cause. The demoncrats have only survived because historically they have hoovered up every single outgroup and tried to make them a voting block even though those same outgroups have real and historical grievances with eachother.

You can't tell me that blacks, gays, women, muslims, feminists and atheists have common goals. Its hilarious. So many of these groups are so diametrically opposed to eachother they would naturally find and equilibrium between parties, The evaporation of the evangelical block was the best thing to happen to the repubs in the past 20 yrs and Trump was only the beginning of nationalist populism.

Nat pop is just beginning to rear its ugly head and as the american empire continues to collapse economically it will be the one force that will take the country throughout the rest of the century. Why? Because National populism is an ideological stance that CAN unite a bunch of disparate outgroups. You can be a muslim or an atheist, a black or gay, a feminist or socialist and still be a national populist by virtue of the fact that you are a citizen of a certain geographic region that benefits from national populist policy.

Unironically, the Right will probably morph it a true NatSoc party by the end of the century once it realizes its in its own best interest to do so. The democrat liberal agenda will be crushed by family values irrespective of religion and dedication to country.

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