Yeah we do have problems

At 2/15/06 05:39 PM, Stamper wrote: How pretentious can you GET Tom? You thought of that in the shower, while running a soapy washcloth against your balls?

Do us all a favor and actually THINK before you decide the fate of our site.

Well, what you get over/under while not thinking with your head but with your... ya whatever Tom was thinking with at the intense moment in the shower, are usually neat stuff.

See when thinking with your head, you get the most thought through decisions made, while thinking with your smaller head, you get the best looking ones. And since this is about the layout, I think Tom made best thinking with his smaller head. ;-)

At 2/15/06 01:58 PM, James_Prankard_Inc wrote: Newgrounds - Over the edge
Newgrounds - Pushing the limits

Those two are not bad.

Newgrounds - Moving forewards

Get rid of the "S", and the "E", then it will look better.

At 2/15/06 02:01 PM, -liam- wrote: Newgrounds - We hope you enjoy this addiction

I know I am.

Newgrounds - E-crack

Pretty much is.

Newgrounds - Now with 25% more <random word>!

pr0n?

At 2/15/06 01:34 PM, Jercurpac wrote: Newgrounds: The World is at Your Fingertips

You missed NG. You just went for the entire Internet.

At 2/15/06 05:50 PM, Noob-Antichrist wrote: hmmm

Exactly what we need. a shinier header. Why don't we have one?

how about, NEWGROUNDS, WE REACH A NEW LOW EVERYDAY.
just like the pico thing

the new design is good, but the old slogan trumps the new one

I kinda like the new motto, it's fresh. But I also like mine:

NEWGROUNDS. Today. Tomorrow. Forever.

how about this one here

Everything by everyone. Sounds a little dull. It should be reworded to be a little more original.

At 2/15/06 06:08 PM, DurtyB wrote: how about, NEWGROUNDS, WE REACH A NEW LOW EVERYDAY.
just like the pico thing

That's not a bad one it made me lol. The new slogan is all right, but I liked the old one better.

Well is it going to take alot longer for you to put the rest of the layout on the front page?

Then you'll have to re-do the BBS, and everything else.

AND BY GOD IF YOU DO NOT GIVE US COOLER PROFILES I WILL... UMM... WHINE

no im absolutly serious, i think that this one is a good one

At 2/15/06 05:33 PM, barrel_lock wrote: I still like the 2003 Newgrounds Look Check it out.

That was in 2004, too. I think they changed it to the layout they have now in december.

I remember newgrounds when it had a black background and I was messing with that teletubbies flash. Those were the days.

I think it was 2001 or 2002. Of course, I didn't have an account back then. But I do have one like a year older than the one i am currently posting on. I just forgot the password.

TOM IF YOU EMAIL ME EVERY USER WITH THE WORD PICO IN IT, I WILL LOVE YOU.

Haha, one can dream.

At 2/15/06 04:52 PM, -API- wrote: The slogan should just be "Fuck"

The word's got a lot of power, you know.

Actually, I ALMOST changed the slogan to "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE." earlier today...

This is very true. Ive seen alot of people be dark just to be cool. There are alot of really good flashes that have been blammed because of all those dark assholes who have never made a movie. To all dark people, a movie doesnt have to have littlefoot graphics to be good to be worthy of newgrounds. The stuff i submitted got blammed for a good reason. It was a one layer stick movie that i made because i was boered. Those things and really crappy submissions should be blammed. But some things are getting blammed because like i said of the animation quality. The fact that people are getting jobs because of newgrounds is a symbol of its succes. The new sloagan is good. Tom, your post really came from the heart. Good job.

At 2/15/06 06:28 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:52 PM, -API- wrote: The slogan should just be "Fuck"

The word's got a lot of power, you know.

Actually, I ALMOST changed the slogan to "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE." earlier today...

No, Tom. Just make it "FUCK YOU". As Dane Cook has said, nothing beats it..once you say FUCK YOU! It's over...there's nothing else to say. Personally whatever you choose I'd like well unless the new slogan was "Vegeton is gay" then I'd be kinda hurt.

or how about NEWGROUNDS OUR SITE MAKES YOUR SITE LOOK LIKE SHIT

Keep up the good work. Love the changes and new look.

At 2/15/06 06:28 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:52 PM, -API- wrote: The slogan should just be "Fuck"

The word's got a lot of power, you know.

Actually, I ALMOST changed the slogan to "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE." earlier today...

Lol, I'm sure that would make you the most popular man on the Internet, Tom.

Actually, it might.

At 2/15/06 12:26 PM, TomFulp wrote: A lot of people have been asking about the new slogan. I first addressed the NG slogan more than two years ago, in this thread.

i remember that topic, and all the crazieness it created.

With all the good coming from NG, I don't feel the need to put a negative spin on it. NG is no longer the problems of the future today, NG IS THE FUTURE, TODAY. I would change our slogan to "The Future is Now", but that was the Neo Geo slogan. Can you tell I get a lot of inspiration from SNK? :)

i think a slogen inspired from something else woulded properly represent the orginality that NG is. like new comers will look at the slogan and thing this is a fan site or something.

As for the new slogan... I came up with it one day while I was in the shower. I was thinking about how NG has grown to include all sorts of content and is basically trying to be everything to everyone. Then I realized, NG is not everything to everyone, it's everything BY everyone... I think that's pretty NEAT.

Its neat.its damn neat.

That reminds me a little of "From each, according to his ability, to each, according to his need". (That would be a lot better slogan for Newgrounds IMHO.)

But I did like the old one better, though :(

Maybe I'll get used to the new one over time :/

The slogan was the only part I liked yesterday, but the thing is growing on me. Its a lot less fiddley than the last one :D

At 2/15/06 06:33 PM, mofomojo wrote: The only complaint that I have is the mainstreamization of the site.

First, porn is banned from the bbs,

I think this is more of a decency thing than anything else. There is porn aplenty all over the web. Is not having in on the BBS really going to ruin anyone's day?

Then, the influx of commercial flash animations from Sony and the like,
Then, Numa numa,

Well, we did start the Numa Numa craze, after all. We didn't go mainstream with that, we simply became the mainstream.

then the page re-directions on the site (you know, those ones where it says "view this page while the next page is loading")

Okay, that is annoying. It doesn't happen very often with me, but when it does, I hate it.

My opinion on what to do?

Paid accounts, blah blah blah.

This is actually a really good idea. As long as the non-payers get what they always have, they shouldn't have anything to complain about. I spend enough time on NG to think that it's almost a crime that I get it for free. If NG were a NPO, I'd even be willing to donate money to it, so I think a voluntary subscription service would be a better way to go (seeing as it's not a NPO, after all). It doesn't seem all that absurd.

This really needs to be addressed before you start asking people to voluntarily submit icons, really.

I think the pedants on the site are more than willing to make sure every animation has an icon, but I think it would be a good direction for Tom & crew to look at, regardless.

the irony of this all is - as part of my human computer interaction module i have been doin for my degree - i did a critique on newgrounds of which i have just submitted and will shortly be tested. some of the things i shot the site down on were the method of signing in and the difficulty of locating the forums.... they have now been fixed.... hence my entire paper goes to waste! damn u Tom!!

Love the slogan, and I agree; it's a lot more topical now than ever. NewGrounds really is *the* source for new, interesting material by designers of all ages. This is a great way to get your material seen; my last game had 100K views just here on NG! That number floors me, to get so much exposure really makes this whole place worthwhile for everyone, not just those having fun and making something silly, but those who are really trying to break out and get noticed, to get a job, to get heard.

I was a teen when I first found NewGrounds, and it appealed to me. Now I'm an adult, about to graduate college and look for a job I can love, and NG is still there, in a different, more meaningful way. Because of this site, I've been given job offers to do something I've always wanted to do; make programs that people enjoy. If I get one person to say 'dood, you r0x0r, that was l33t', well, that makes my day (and makes my formalistic english mind cringe). The new slogan fits so well with what NewGrounds has become, so far from its porn-fueled days of yore. "Everything, by Everyone." So simple, so true, so... right. It's the way I view NG, the way I've understood it to be for a long time now. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Keep up the good work, Tom; this place changes people's futures. It's changed mine. Thank you.

At 2/15/06 12:26 PM, TomFulp wrote: As for the new slogan... I came up with it one day while I was in the shower. I was thinking about how NG has grown to include all sorts of content and is basically trying to be everything to everyone. Then I realized, NG is not everything to everyone, it's everything BY everyone... I think that's pretty NEAT.

As for the other complaints about the new header... We'll try making the buttons a little smaller and cutting down the vertical space as much as we can without screwing it up. And I promise, the redesign Stamper is working on LOOKS AMAZING and fits much nicer with the new header, which he has already been tweaking.

I like the new slogan, but I want to point out that angsty teen stuff is a part of everthing, and while it doesn't need to prevail, please don't move towards shutting it out. Oh, and I've always like the pictures on the buttons, even though they didn't relate to much of anything. It'd be great if you could put pictures on the new ones too.
Otherwise, I like the changes! Rock on!

At 2/15/06 06:31 PM, Vegeton wrote:

At 2/15/06 06:28 PM, TomFulp wrote:

At 2/15/06 04:52 PM, -API- wrote: The slogan should just be "Fuck"

The word's got a lot of power, you know.

Actually, I ALMOST changed the slogan to "FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE." earlier today...

No, Tom. Just make it "FUCK YOU".

I agree.
I'd like 'FUCK OFF' more though, so the website is more welcoming.

heres a good one NEWGROUNDS, FUCK YOU EBAUMS WORLD

can someone tell me what font that is that tom is using in all his ads and shit lately?

aw dont listen to the damn prudes! the slogan is awesome, and the banner is AWESOME!! dont change it at all! i love it the way it is now :D

The new Slogan is cool, but it sorta sounds like a communist ideal. Anywho, it's still cool. Can't wait for the other updates for the site.