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Lately(it may have occured for a long time) Ive noticed that the Wi/Ht forum is seriously abused by noobs asking questions concerning B/P, exp., votings and even one ask for where he can view the rules(no offence to that guy). Apparently, most of these can be anwsered at the FAQ, also known as the help section. Im totally disappionted that it has been disreagarded this much. The reason can be the FAQ button is too small and remote for anyone to notice. So I think its neccesary to create a new link to the FAQ in only the Wi/Ht forum which direct noobs to their solutions just like directing them to the BBS rules. Ive see something similar in the Flash forum that is directing people to the NG flash help page, why not in the Wi/Ht forum?

Any ideas?

At 4/18/05 04:41 PM, thefinalcooljudge wrote: Any ideas?

At 4/18/05 10:26 AM, deslona wrote:

Noone can seei it, its not too hard to guess why inbetween all the other flashy interesting topics. The FAQ and READ THIS FIRST buttons look dead and uninteresting.
Maybe the *HELP' button at the top left of the screen should be changed to 'HELP AND FAQ'

Here's another one that would cut down on spam big time.

When a person gets the leave a message secret, Why not add that it appears under the news post? It seems every day somebody comes in wondering where it is. They usually do not get help they just get flamed.

At 4/18/05 03:36 PM, Zerok wrote: Another topic search thing I would like to see is:
Search the NG BBS by Topics started by _____.
Sometimes I know exactly who started some thread, but I have no idea what it was called. I can see some potential spam problems coming from this, and stat whoring. (ie: Blah0123 has the most topics locked!)

Yea, that's similar to the suggestion of a "Search By: Topic Author" thing I suggested. I think it's a great idea, and definitely a good way to find those elusive and poorly named threads. It would certainly make me happy just having that instead of the text search, plus it would be much less exhaustive on the database.

heheheh

I know, I laughed when I read that suggestion.

I think they should add a feature to the forums on NG which allows you to look at your list of recent messages as you do now only it would tell you how many people have replied to it since the last time you looked because it is awkward checking up on all of your posts every 5 minutes to see if somebody has replied. Do you think they will add this in the future or is it already there and i have just not seen it?

Although I wasn't responsible for the last lot of posts that were deleted, I just pruned about 10 posts from the last couple of pages. The last four or five posts, prompted by Acid-Rain's question, should have been in a new thread in Wi/Ht, not in this topic. The one- and two-liners about school were not adding anything to the conversation.

I urge those of you that had posts deleted to go and read the first post in the thread. This thread is not a place for bumping your post count, the idea is to keep things as concise as possible so James or the other admin don't have to spend ages browsing through pointlessness to filter out the valid suggestions and debates.

Basically, unless you have a suggestion or a comprehensive argument for or against a suggestion, don't post in this thread.

Copied from a thread I made:

I was wondering about the likelihood of expanding the multi-author environment to Audio was well. There's a few of us that tend to do collabs, most refutably Stamper, but myself also. All of my songs, both on and off the audio portal feature band members that happen to be NG users. It'd be kind of nice to give them credit they deserve.

We have our experience level exploited on the forums. I think that flash artists should have a chance to be recognized aswell around here. There is room to display other things under the experience level and I think artists who have good batting averages or have won some awards should have something displayed here aswell.

At 4/20/05 10:18 PM, Love_Machine wrote: We have our experience level exploited on the forums. I think that flash artists should have a chance to be recognized aswell around here. There is room to display other things under the experience level and I think artists who have good batting averages or have won some awards should have something displayed here aswell.

Well there might not be enough space in the thing, or the fact we have a profile for that, but showing a single icon for each award which is of course, clickable sounds interesting.

At 4/21/05 02:08 PM, FrOzEn_FoX wrote:

At 4/20/05 10:18 PM, Love_Machine wrote: We have our experience level exploited on the forums. I think that flash artists should have a chance to be recognized aswell around here. There is room to display other things under the experience level and I think artists who have good batting averages or have won some awards should have something displayed here aswell.

Well there might not be enough space in the thing, or the fact we have a profile for that, but showing a single icon for each award which is of course, clickable sounds interesting.

Do we really need sign up date and experience points though?
We also have a large space next to our small signature pics.

At 4/21/05 07:15 PM, Love_Machine wrote: Do we really need sign up date and experience points though?
We also have a large space next to our small signature pics.

The signup date is a decent factor to leave. It shows how long you've been here and thus states how much you may or may not actually know. Exp isn't necessary though, methinks.

At 4/21/05 08:32 PM, Miikro wrote:

At 4/21/05 07:15 PM, Love_Machine wrote: Do we really need sign up date and experience points though?
We also have a large space next to our small signature pics.

The signup date is a decent factor to leave. It shows how long you've been here and thus states how much you may or may not actually know.

Exp isn't necessary though, methinks.

The points aren't really necassary, because our levels is displayed anyway.

At 4/21/05 08:32 PM, Miikro wrote: It shows how long you've been here and thus states how much you may or may not actually know.

Well, in a way you are right, an older user would know more, UNLESS! that user has been gone for years and just now returned, like some have. Checking post count helps as well.

Exp isn't necessary though, methinks.

No, not really, but again, it does show you've been here a while. A user can get to level 10 in only 140 days, so there is a plus and a negative.

At 4/21/05 10:26 PM, Love_Machine wrote: The points aren't really necassary, because our levels is displayed anyway.

Ah, you're talking about modiferys, as some of the ones seen on Retrogade and other places, yes? Having your awards below the author isn't required because there is a list of all your awards in your profile, people can just look at it there. Besides, some modifers, like post count, review count, etc... could incourage some forms of spam, review, post, etc... and we don't want that now do we?

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And I'm sure someone has suggested it, but might we beable to book mark our favorite audio and audio artists? As well as sort audio sections as in Video Game Music by date instead of just score as well?

And yes, I know my post was deleted.

At 2/4/05 07:04 AM, Fuel2Fire wrote: Good points. But if voting on audio submissions had some point then people WOULD take the time to vote. So by giving a reason to vote, like uping your rank and exp points like the flash portal then people might actually vote.

I know some people will vote zeros to kill the competition but there are many songs over 4.00 rating so a lot of people are voting fair.

With the votes meaning something for the voter, increase in EXP points, and the 5 minimum rule before showing actual rating, it gives the artist a more fair chance to have his music rated where it belongs. And like you added, incentive for the voter, increased EXP points. This works in favor both ways.
Thanks for giving me the tool to improve my idea so it would actually work.

This is EXACTLY what I've been wanting. I wrote Wade about an Audio BBS months ago and it finally happend. If this happens there will be enough fair votes to get rid of all the 0 votes that you get from others. If you go and vote 0 ona good flash right now, you hardly move it down because there are so many votes on it. This would be the PERFECT way to solve the audio portal voting ordeals. Just implement the same Blam and Protect system.

OK, so this isn't much of an idea for improvement, it's just a thing that came to my mind - the experienced users (maybe as a NG secret or something) should have the right to scroll through the blammed work in NG as well. I mean, those flashes aren't deleted, are they? They're just "marked for administrative review". If they want to they can vote for them as well, so as to revive them (?). Or maybe not, because they would only abuse this. But still, at least have the posibility of viewing them?

At 4/22/05 10:01 AM, Catz27 wrote: OK, so this isn't much of an idea for improvement,

no that garbage is deleted off the server once blammed.

At 4/22/05 10:01 AM, Catz27 wrote: I mean, those flashes aren't deleted, are they?

Blammed flash, yes. I believe you can still access them after being blammed if you know the direct link to the file, but after a while they seem to just be deleted completely.

They're just "marked for administrative review".

Blammed flash are not "marked for administrative review." Those are submissions that have been flagged for whatever reason (stolen, malicious, unsuitable.)

If they want to they can vote for them as well, so as to revive them (?).

They were blammed for a reason.

I'm not sure if it has been suggested before, but I think that you might like this one Denvish, since I know how much you hate abusive reviews on UJ flash. My idea is to disable the option to review a flash while it is still under judgement. It would pretty much end those reviews that consist completely of a copy/paste from the voting page. It is really kind of pointless reviewing many UJ flash anyway, since any reviews made on a flash that is blammed are deleted with it.

I think that it would prevent a lot of abusive reviewing. If someone has to spend the time waiting for the flash to be saved before they have the ability to review it, they might just think "aw fuck it" and find something better to do with their time. If someone really likes a movie and wants to review it, then they should have enough patience to wait for it to come through the Portal before doing so.

Like I said before, I'm not sure if this has been suggested already, if it has I apologize for wasting your time. I'm also unsure of how practical it would be to implement, but I think it would be worth a try. So, that's it. Thanks for your time everyone!

At 4/24/05 04:03 AM, _IAMCanadian_ wrote: I'm not sure if it has been suggested before, but I think that you might like this one Denvish, since I know how much you hate abusive reviews on UJ flash. My idea is to disable the option to review a flash while it is still under judgement. It would pretty much end those reviews that consist completely of a copy/paste from the voting page. It is really kind of pointless reviewing many UJ flash anyway, since any reviews made on a flash that is blammed are deleted with it.

I think that it would prevent a lot of abusive reviewing. If someone has to spend the time waiting for the flash to be saved before they have the ability to review it, they might just think "aw fuck it" and find something better to do with their time. If someone really likes a movie and wants to review it, then they should have enough patience to wait for it to come through the Portal before doing so.

If the option to review was removed on UJ flash then we wouldn't be able to help beginners on their first flash, and if a mod does come across an abusive review on an under judgement movie or even in the obituraries they can still review ban someone. Still, as for the copy and paste the vote text thing, I WISH THEY'D FUCKING STOP THAT. There needs to be a change for reviews, saying above the box also that copying and pasting the vote stats isn't allowed.

Hoping this has not been Submitted yet. But I think I have an Idea that might help stop some Audio Trolls from killing ratings on purpose.

A lot of Good artists are having some problems in the Audio Portal. After submitting a song, some troll likes to be there to vote a big fat 0 for no reason other than killing sum1's hard work.

I simply suggest that there be a link for the artist to click next to the voting part, where the user can bring up the first 5 people that voted on the song, and show what they rated the song as (or this could be changed to the last 5). A troll will be thinking more about the artist seeing what he has done and getting back at him by voting 0 on his work and hopefully the "troll" will then vote properly.

Just another idea for stoping trolls.

I still think that all new entries should stay a 5/5 untill 5 or 10 people have voted, and the votes should give EXP to the users just like flash. This is all one site, why not make it like a single site?

At 4/24/05 06:43 AM, FrOzEn_FoX wrote: If the option to review was removed on UJ flash then we wouldn't be able to help beginners on their first flash,

Yes, but the author could just leave an e-mail address and recieve feedback that way.

and if a mod does come across an abusive review on an under judgement movie or even in the obituraries they can still review ban someone.

Yeah, I remember Denvish's thread about that awhile back. The problem is that there isn't always a review mod in the Portal, but I guess that's alright if they're going through the obituaries as well.

Still, as for the copy and paste the vote text thing, I WISH THEY'D FUCKING STOP THAT.

Yes, it is one of the most annoying things ever.

There needs to be a change for reviews, saying above the box also that copying and pasting the vote stats isn't allowed.

Yeah, while it wouldn't stop people completely from doing it, I think it would cut down on those damn reviews. Also, how about adding in the review box that writing abusive reviews on UJ flash will get you an automatic ban if it is seen by a review mod?

i think you should be allowed to remove your own flash(which i think you can do) and audio from the portals...

At 4/24/05 05:56 PM, LamboFactor wrote: i think you should be allowed to remove your own flash(which i think you can do) and audio from the portals...

Not a chance. Think of how many people hate illwillpress, and think of what damage could be done if his account was hacked and you could delete your own flash.

At 4/24/05 06:43 AM, FrOzEn_FoX wrote: There needs to be a change for reviews, saying above the box also that copying and pasting the vote stats isn't allowed.

The current rules kind of cover this. Besides, they'll find out when they get banned.

I think that something should be put on the side of a topic (like the symbol that shows if a topic has 30 or more posts) to show that the topic has been there for a certain time, just to avoid any accidental posts by other users when some users bump an old thread.

At 4/24/05 10:36 PM, Psycho_Crusher wrote: I think that something should be put on the side of a topic (like the symbol that shows if a topic has 30 or more posts) to show that the topic has been there for a certain time, just to avoid any accidental posts by other users when some users bump an old thread.

I don't really think that this is needed, since you can just check the date of the first post when you open the thread.

At 4/24/05 11:16 PM, _IAMCanadian_ wrote:

At 4/24/05 10:36 PM, Psycho_Crusher wrote: I think that something should be put on the side of a topic (like the symbol that shows if a topic has 30 or more posts) to show that the topic has been there for a certain time, just to avoid any accidental posts by other users when some users bump an old thread.

I don't really think that this is needed, since you can just check the date of the first post when you open the thread.

But thats the thing, most users don't even bother to check the date of the thread. I mean, its in such an obscure area that users fail to notice it.

I have another idea; how about and obituaries search bar?

At 4/25/05 01:27 AM, food1 wrote: I have another idea; how about and obituaries search bar?

It isn't a very useful idea. Why would you want to find a deleted flash? Even if you want to find abusive review its pretty much useless since crappy flashes are most of the time blammed quickly so people barely have time to write 2-3 reviews.