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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:27 PM Reply

Hey, there's something I've been thinking about for a couple of weeks now.

Do you guys think that a track's place on an album can effect how enjoyable the song is?

Like, on Keeper of the Seven Keys: The Legacy the big, climactic, multi-part Epic is at the very start of the first disc. I think that's a little silly, and the end of the song seems like an anti-climax because of it. Like, who wouldn't want to end an album with "THE KING FOOOR A THOOOOOUUUUUUUSAND YEEEEARS"?

To me, there just seem to be songs that are meant to either start or end an album. Would Reign in Blood have been as good if 'Raining Blood' was the first track and say 'Necrophobic' was the last track?

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:30 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 04:27 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Do you guys think that a track's place on an album can effect how enjoyable the song is?

Of course it does. Thats why people spend a lot of time planning the order of an album to increase the effectiveness of songs.


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:31 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 04:27 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Hey, there's something I've been thinking about for a couple of weeks now.
Tell me what you think.

Yeah, most times I find the single (Great song) is either the first, second, or third song. This is pretty much 90% of the time. I do see some bands that place their "Singles" or great songs toward the middle or random. But you're right. Most of the time you can tell how good a song is based on it's track number.


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:33 PM Reply

Also, you can always tell a good band when you find one, because you'll like the entire album, regardless of track. :3


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:40 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 04:27 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote:
Tell me what you think.

Yes. Just think about Operas or maybe metal opera... if you want to stay on the subject of metal. Normally Opera is a story, with a beginning and an end. In that case and when you make atmospheric records, the order of the tracks if freakin important. Just think about Ashes Against The Grain by Agalloch. It's all about the atmosphere and the order of the tracks... well... along with the fact that the tracks are fucking awesome... but these are just details...

Also, bands writting song that are not related to each others, than to place the songs they think to be the bests at the beginning and sometime the end of the album. It's a basic thing you learn when studying psychology... you always remember the beginning and the end best.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:43 PM Reply

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 04:59 PM Reply

Adding to the list of Heavy.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 05:25 PM Reply

Heavy.
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Fuck yeah, cranked Orange amps.

Also, The Black Dahlia Murder is coming soon to the capital. I used to like them a lot, but I think they're pretty average now I guess IMO. It'd be a decent show, I think, would you guys go?

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 05:30 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 05:25 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: Also, The Black Dahlia Murder is coming soon to the capital. I used to like them a lot, but I think they're pretty average now I guess IMO. It'd be a decent show, I think, would you guys go?

Sure I would. I love the Black Dahlia Murder. No reason not to go.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 05:55 PM Reply

I almost forgot how awesome Necrophagist are. What a great band !

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:02 PM Reply

I guess I'm really having a Death Metal trip right now

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:03 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 05:30 PM, HeavyMetalGuy wrote: Sure I would. I love the Black Dahlia Murder. No reason not to go.

Problem is, I can't drive there on my own, no one wants to go with me, and no one will take me.

At 1/12/10 05:55 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I almost forgot how awesome Necrophagist are. What a great band !

Favorite technical death metal band, favorite death metal guitarist, one of my favorite death metal bands.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:10 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 06:03 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: Problem is, I can't drive there on my own, no one wants to go with me, and no one will take me.

Do you not have trains in America?


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:14 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 06:03 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote:
At 1/12/10 05:55 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I almost forgot how awesome Necrophagist are. What a great band !
Favorite technical death metal band, favorite death metal guitarist, one of my favorite death metal bands.

I still like the most brutal stuff a little better. But of course, brutal and technical is the best. Blood Red Throne and Benighted ftw!

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:17 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 06:03 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote:
At 1/12/10 05:30 PM, HeavyMetalGuy wrote: Sure I would. I love the Black Dahlia Murder. No reason not to go.
Problem is, I can't drive there on my own, no one wants to go with me, and no one will take me.

At 1/12/10 05:55 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: I almost forgot how awesome Necrophagist are. What a great band !
Favorite technical death metal band, favorite death metal guitarist, one of my favorite death metal bands.

Necrophagist will always be bad ass. I myself like Psycroptic. Ob(servant) was totally bad ass. Symbols of failure was also a very good album.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:18 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 06:10 PM, Nev wrote:
At 1/12/10 06:03 PM, CapnCrunchDaPimp wrote: Problem is, I can't drive there on my own, no one wants to go with me, and no one will take me.
Do you not have trains in America?

Trains are old school. There's a train station half an hour from here but it only ships stuff back and forth. There's also the tallest train tracks in America a few hours away. No train can take me there, though. I was thinking of getting a friend to drive or something, but I might have to spend the night with a douche.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:50 PM Reply

HEAVY.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 06:54 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 06:50 PM, D3NTATUS wrote: HEAVY.

That was some trippy shit.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 07:00 PM Reply

Heavy!


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 07:02 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:00 PM, Zodir wrote: Heavy!

Heavy!

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 07:05 PM Reply

Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 07:08 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:05 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.

Nice. Welcome brother of metal. Here, we can help help expand your horizons, if you so desire.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 07:19 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:05 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.

In the vein of Iron Maiden, I suggest:
The Lord Weird Slough Feg
Angel Witch
Iced Earth
Saxon
Bruce Dickinson's Solo stuff

In the vein of Motorhead, I suggest High on Fire

In the vein of Dethklok, I suggest:
In Flames
Wintersun
Kataklysm
Amon Amarth

And I cannot suggest anything for the Crue because I hate glam metal. Sorry.


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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 08:05 PM Reply

What do you guys think of my new sig? Simple, yet effective, no?

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 08:13 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:08 PM, HeavyMetalGuy wrote:
At 1/12/10 07:05 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.
Nice. Welcome brother of metal. Here, we can help help expand your horizons, if you so desire.

In fact you are not the one choosing who joins...

He has to list 10 metal bands... and so far I see 3...

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 08:14 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:05 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.

I believe you need at least 5 more bands (if Motley Crue, and Alice Cooper are considered metal here) and then you can wait for a horseman to accept you.

by the way HEAVY.

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 08:33 PM Reply

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 08:36 PM Reply

In this club I vaguely recall one having to post your favorite metal bands in your initial post in order to not get the Quaker silent treatment, so here are some that I've been listening to lately...
(In loose order of most liked and down)

High on Fire
Electric Wizard
Gojira
Peste Noire
Ministry
Church of Misery
Bathory
Fear Factory
Burzum
Black Pyramid
Nadja
Sunn O)))

So yeah. Pretty entry-level but it's my two cents. Incidently, I'm listening to Peste Noire's album right now and it's amazing. Much better than Folkfuck Follie. God, Folkfuck was terrible.

also HI CARL

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 09:27 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 07:08 PM, HeavyMetalGuy wrote: Nice. Welcome brother of metal. Here, we can help help expand your horizons, if you so desire.

You're not allowed to do that, especially considering that the dude still has to make his list of 10.

At 1/12/10 08:36 PM, VespeneGas wrote: also HI CARL

HEY

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Response to Metal Hell Jan. 12th, 2010 @ 09:29 PM Reply

At 1/12/10 08:13 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 1/12/10 07:08 PM, HeavyMetalGuy wrote:
At 1/12/10 07:05 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Motley Crue, Iron Maden, Alice Cooper, Motorhead, and Dethklok.
Nice. Welcome brother of metal. Here, we can help help expand your horizons, if you so desire.
In fact you are not the one choosing who joins...

He has to list 10 metal bands... and so far I see 3...

In that case...
Ozzy Osbourne, Godsmack, Judas Priest, Black Sabbath, Mastodon, Megadeth, Anvil, W.A.S.P., Spinal Tap, Anthrax, Slayer, Quiet Riot, and Mudvayne.