Big artists, such as the ones that performed for Live Earth, don't give a rat's arse about the planet as long as it doesn't die in their lifetime. They get paid to say things that will conserve the planet in order to gain more fans and be broadcast world wide... it's a win-win situation for them. I mean, I liked Live Earth cuz of the acts, but in actuality, their deceiving the easily fooled into thinking that they are saving the earth.

yeah, i really hate that too

Its just gain attention i dont think most of them really give a shit neither the celbreties or the fans. Me all i want to see is linkin park preform, thats all. all the crap about conserving and saveing the planet its all blah blah blah. Really dosent matter to me.

At 7/9/07 10:08 PM, casino1251 wrote: Its just gain attention i dont think most of them really give a shit neither the celbreties or the fans. Me all i want to see is linkin park preform, thats all. all the crap about conserving and saveing the planet its all blah blah blah. Really dosent matter to me.

They should ban linkin park too. It's turning the younger side of my generation into idiots.

Arent they just getting celebrities to say it for them for them as most people will listen to what celebrities have to say? Yeah I dont think any of them actually care or think about it.

At 7/9/07 10:08 PM, casino1251 wrote: Its just gain attention i dont think most of them really give a shit neither the celbreties or the fans. Me all i want to see is linkin park preform, thats all. all the crap about conserving and saveing the planet its all blah blah blah. Really dosent matter to me.

You got another planet lined up to live on?

hey its gonna happen, its gonna happen and we cant stop it.

At 7/9/07 10:27 PM, casino1251 wrote: hey its gonna happen, its gonna happen and we cant stop it.

What a wonderfully sheltered anarcist point of view. You think none of this matter because right now to you global warming means going inside to the air conditioning and conservation means rationing the cheetos until mom buys more. Life dosen't stay that way

Why hello thar, im here to debunk Man made global warming, lolz @ misguided media.

Earth 2 is better.

I would only go to this to see my fav bands in concert. The whole concept of this is indeed bullshit.

Roger Waters, The Police, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Foo Fighters, Wolfmother. Those are the only bands I would see. And their pretty much scattered across the world.

hah imagine if somehow, comically, that this specific event somehow caused the world to explode/destroy itself/etc. God that would be hilariously ironic.

I hate celebrities in general that try to force opinions down peoples throats. There's the hippies that rant about the environment than go fly on a charter plane 5 time a week, theres the religious fuck who asks for the freedom to express his opinions, but his opinions are he knows the truth and you don't, then theres the people who think giving Africa money will truly help them when all the money just gets hoarded by the corrupt governments.
No celebrities are honest about anything, hell, they wouldn't even think about doing any of it if they didn't think they could get some free publicity by doing it.

Still, they will do more good than you will ever do in your insignificant little life.

At 7/9/07 09:50 PM, WadeFulp wrote: My electric bills have gone up lately, largely due to higher gas prices, etc. Let's say I pay an average of $200 per month, so over the coarse of 30 years, I'd spend $72,000 on energy. That's half of what you've spent just on the panels, so the investment wouldn't make sense for me, other than to do my part to help conserve. Even if energy prices continue to rise, it would be hard to come out ahead with current solar panel pricing.

Also my yard isn't large enough to support 3 panels that size, even if I put them on my roof I doubt I could do it. Not everyone has that kind of open space.

This has been and interesting topic. I agree with your points. Now we just need America to put in eletric trains to promote healthier transportation!

At 7/9/07 11:26 PM, gumOnShoe wrote: Yeah, I can understand misliking hypocrosy, but still I don't have a problem with them trying to give a good message. Its better than nothing, and it was probably being pushed before LED was an alternative. Once the cogs are rolling they take forever and then by the time it happens its outdated. Not as an insult, but just think about the redisign. How long has that been planned? Things take a while to happen. Record companies have to approve. Lawyers have to approve. Lobbyists have to send enough letters to be heard (there goes the rainforest).

Anyway, LEDs might be really cheep, but I always thought they were a bit to bright and harsh... I like a softer light...

Fact of the matter is, everytime we heat our homes in the winter we contribute to global warming. Cities are the heaters of the world and probably doing a much more harmful job than CO2 levels... You don't see anyone telling us to start building houses underground and forsake costly wasteful heating.

I just don't know that this celebrity thing is really worth any piss. I mean, just stop paying them any attention. I can't remember the last time I watched tv. I don't buy music. I certainly don't go to concerts. Who fucking cares how drunk they get. I'm not going to watch their lives suck or their bodies prancing around on stage because quiet frankly I care more about what is going on around me than wherever they are and whatever the fuck they are doing.

LEDs are a softer light. That is why the theater industry wants to implement them but is having a hard time.

Technology is exponential. Sony already has paper thin high definition TVs that adhere to a electrically charged velcro. The same is with LEDs and other products. Businesses want to milk consumes for their money, so they slowly relase upgrades.

The reason that LEDs are not popular is because they haven't gotten the supply big enough to be cheap for the consumer to replace all the lights in their house in an efficient manner.

Wow, you guys make me /palmface. Seriously, you actually beleive man contributes to Global Warming? "But our Carbon", we give out the LEAST amount of Carbon, if Carbon was affecting the temperature (which it isn't) then we wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell to even try and change it.

Stop sucking the medias tit.

I actually agree with you wade, I am not the most EF person there is but I do my part, I have the Florescent Bulbs and I recycle, I also stopped buying Cotton Undershirts(I now Buy Hemp Shirts) and Bleached paper products, and I gave up on Foam paper products as well.

If you wanna help out the environment, stop holding concerts and stop making CD's and Get your fucking music online, and reduce the waste.

I also have all my Checks Directly Deposited and get a monthly statement from every place I work to reduce my paper trails.

At 7/10/07 12:54 AM, Sanity-of-Insanity wrote: If you wanna help out the environment, stop holding concerts and stop making CD's and Get your fucking music online, and reduce the waste.

In regards to environment, yes this would help. In regards to temperature? No.

Wait, live earth was put on to benefit the enviroment?
I guess you learn something new every day.

At 7/10/07 12:45 AM, He-Who-Never-Was wrote: Wow, you guys make me /palmface. Seriously, you actually beleive man contributes to Global Warming? "But our Carbon", we give out the LEAST amount of Carbon, if Carbon was affecting the temperature (which it isn't) then we wouldn't have a snowballs chance in hell to even try and change it.

Stop sucking the medias tit.

Humans do contribute to global warming, it is a fact. In the newest issue of Wired Magazine (15.06) you can even see that our use of cows as a domesticated animal has tremendous effects on the enviroment. The average cow (single cow) produces 300 pounds of methane, via burping in a single day. Multiply this by the amound of cows in the United States, (97.1 Million x 300 Lbs = 29,170,000,000Lbs of methane a day) is a lot of pollution just from keeping an obsolete animal around.

This is a huge amount of pollution just from one source not counting the other pollution the world makes in a day. We are a factor and Global Warming is real. This bullshit of people being ignorant and scientists saying that it is part of a cycle is killing me.

People are the cause of it. The planet can only support 2 billion people along with the animals. Right now we are way beyond that. In about 20 years animals, ecosystems and diversity will start becoming extinct.

We first saw global warming when we...oh let me see... lost the O-zone. Yeah, we kinda needed that.

At 7/10/07 01:01 AM, BoogieWookie wrote: Humans do contribute to global warming, it is a fact.

Hello sheep. Watch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CO2_sequestratio n

Is it dumb to think we spend a ludicrous amount of money on some way of transferring CO2 into Oxygen ourselves? We could make something that is like trees, but can change a ton of CO2 into Oxygen. Is this just a stupid idea?

Bullshit it may have been. But it did give us THIS!!!!

You heard it from the enviornmentalists first folks.

That's right! CO2, the same substance which your body is made out of and that which you breathe out and trees take in, is a pollutant and is causing Global Warming which will cause sea levels to rise 50 feet.

At 7/10/07 02:36 AM, Memorize wrote: That's right! CO2, the same substance which your body is made out of and that which you breathe out and trees take in, is a pollutant and is causing Global Warming

Here's a novel idea, Memorize. Why don't you try breathing in pure CO2 for fifteen minutes, and see how your body reacts.

At 7/10/07 02:38 AM, Bolo wrote:

Here's a novel idea, Memorize. Why don't you try breathing in pure CO2 for fifteen minutes, and see how your body reacts.

Where did I say we BREATE IN CO2?

I said we breate out CO2, or are you denying this?

Are you also denying that your body is made up of CO2?

You're body is about 60% water. Go ahead. Trap yourself under water and see how long you last.

At 7/10/07 02:49 AM, Memorize wrote:

At 7/10/07 02:38 AM, Bolo wrote:

Here's a novel idea, Memorize. Why don't you try breathing in pure CO2 for fifteen minutes, and see how your body reacts.

Where did I say we BREATE IN CO2?

You seemed incredulous that such a gas could cause havoc, even in the slightest degree.

I offered you a way to test that theory.

At 7/10/07 03:33 AM, Bolo wrote:

You seemed incredulous that such a gas could cause havoc, even in the slightest degree.

Anything can cause havok if you have too much or too little of it.

But hey, so far, people contribute 3% of this "gunk" that's causing this HUGE, ENOURMOUS, GIGANTIC change which is .5 degrees C in temperature change.

I offered you a way to test that theory.

Well, obviously we have to start comitting mass genocide. Just look at what 6 billion people are doing to the enviornment by breathing. In the next few years, we we'll have 8 billion people, HOLY SHIT MAN!

Alright, alright. I agree with The Who when they say that the last thing the world needs is a rock concert.
But I LOVE Metallica.
And just the thought of them making an effort to save the environment, even if it's a non-existent one makes me want to do so as well.
Don't you see? This concert is to bring publicity to the environmentalist scene. See, the idea is, if the kids today see their favorite musicians helping the environment, they'll get off their arses and do the same. Now, I'm all for saving the environment, but I don't worry about energy consumption. I worry that we have not researched into alternative energy facilities. If we found a way to make solar power cheap and more efficient, I bet that most middle-class people would spend the extra thousand or so dollars to generate their own energy, and put back into the grid.
I'm deeply afraid of what's soon to come to our earth, whether it be a destroyed ecosystem, a thinning atmosphere, deadly uv sun rays, nuclear explosions, close supernovas, and even the nameless races trying to purge the universe, and I believe that the only way we can stop this is if we make that extra leap, put that foot forward, and do something about it.
Earth's wasting away, and if it does, we're gonna waste away with it.

wow you noticed that, I think some Wade needs some congratulating. Or maybe not... oh well you decide