At 10/18/04 11:17 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

Now then, go down the street and walk into a church. look around, see any statues? I do, statues of a perfectly anglosaxon Jesus with blue eyes and brown hair.

Yes, but those are decorations. We dont worship those statues.

Alright everyone, i need sleep. I'll talk to you all tomorrow.

At 10/18/04 11:17 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

You people and "teh" "pwn" etc etc

Thats how it is here. people just talk that way, i do it from time to time as well. Just deal with it, dont cry about it.

Ever try using that brain inside of your head? oh my bad you need a brain for that.

That is such a worn out thing to say. Seen it used way to damn much.

Thank you for calling me a n00b, i do so enjoy being called a n00b, oh say it again, your getting me excited.

Nooby Nooby? Happy now? This not a good way to start off here. Change your ways before it too late, or Im going to be on your ass and you know first hand that when people piss me off they pay.

Well the last time i went to a church and said the word poop, i actually said poopsicle, the preist guy told me to go kiss the statues feet.

Aside from that the catholic and christian church is just fucked up. I could go on and on about the probs, so say the word.

Biznitch
~_<

At 10/18/04 11:31 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote: Well the last time i went to a church and said the word poop, i actually said poopsicle, the preist guy told me to go kiss the statues feet.
Aside from that the catholic and christian church is just fucked up. I could go on and on about the probs, so say the word.
Biznitch
~_<

Do you guys want me to alert a mod about this person flaming your club? I'll be more than happy to send a mod over here to dispose of this trash. You know what, I'll do it anyways.

At 10/18/04 11:33 PM, Master_Inuyasha wrote:

At 10/18/04 11:31 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote: Well the last time i went to a church and said the word poop, i actually said poopsicle, the preist guy told me to go kiss the statues feet.
Aside from that the catholic and christian church is just fucked up. I could go on and on about the probs, so say the word.
Biznitch
~_<

Do you guys want me to alert a mod about this person flaming your club? I'll be more than happy to send a mod over here to dispose of this trash. You know what, I'll do it anyways.

Yea you do that, sadly you cant bann me.
Why? Ill leave you to discover that.

Ill just come back, again and again...

At 10/18/04 11:31 PM, Immortal_Flame wrote:

At 10/18/04 11:17 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

You people and "teh" "pwn" etc etc

Thats how it is here. people just talk that way, i do it from time to time as well. Just deal with it, dont cry about it.

Ever try using that brain inside of your head? oh my bad you need a brain for that.

That is such a worn out thing to say. Seen it used way to damn much.

Thank you for calling me a n00b, i do so enjoy being called a n00b, oh say it again, your getting me excited.

Nooby Nooby? Happy now? This not a good way to start off here. Change your ways before it too late, or Im going to be on your ass and you know first hand that when people piss me off they pay.

Ever heard of that abbreviation STFU?
Good, im glad, now use it.

shut your hole, i still cant believe you made that Oasis.
Any dumbass Flamer will come in there and continue the flame.

Dumbass

At 10/18/04 11:41 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote: Yea you do that, sadly you cant bann me.

But mods can, they have the power, and I have the power to contact them

Why? Ill leave you to discover that.

I don't really wish to become one. There are better potential mods than me.

Ill just come back, again and again...

Then your IP address will be terminated.

At 10/18/04 11:18 PM, DivineCrusader wrote:

:: John 3:16-

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

very good point. however, the bible, itself, is a history collection which was written by men, men who had minds. theoretically, could it not be possible that the men who followed Jesus did not want people to know that their savior hated them? (such as in a hypothetical scenario that i am presenting to you now)

one's faith must adhere to higher principals than that of just a collection of books written by men. otherwise, there is no explanation of how one can transcend the physical plane to the ethereal.

At 10/18/04 11:43 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

Ever heard of that abbreviation STFU?
Good, im glad, now use it.

Hahaha, man o man you have a lot to learn. Oh yes and to comply to your wishes please STFU. Nobody wants to see your little ass around here ever again.

shut your hole, i still cant believe you made that Oasis.
Any dumbass Flamer will come in there and continue the flame.

A huh, you see once the flame enters there we will take action resulting in the flamers bannishment.

Dumbass

Im told that everyday....and It seems like your the only dumbass around here.

Ooooo

Fiesty, i like that.
I could care less if anyone wanted me around, look at Wiz.
I come here to make life hell.

Oh and Flame, when you bann them (yea right) you know dial-up connections have changing ips, theyll come back.

Theres only 1 real way to bann me or anyone else with a brain.
Go ask Chaos, she knows

Oh and for the record, i suggest you STFU, bee-yatch.
Dont let this become another Wiz. Your already lowering the IQ around hurr

At 10/18/04 11:31 PM, Immortal_Flame wrote:

At 10/18/04 11:17 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

You people and "teh" "pwn" etc etc

Thats how it is here. people just talk that way, i do it from time to time as well. Just deal with it, dont cry about it.

OMG U R teh n00b, I pwn U!!
I'm kidding.

Ever try using that brain inside of your head? oh my bad you need a brain for that.

That is such a worn out thing to say. Seen it used way to damn much.

Yeah, really man.

Thank you for calling me a n00b, i do so enjoy being called a n00b, oh say it again, your getting me excited.

Nooby Nooby? Happy now? This not a good way to start off here. Change your ways before it too late, or Im going to be on your ass and you know first hand that when people piss me off they pay.

Is being called a n00b orgasmic? Oh, life's great mysteries...

At 10/18/04 11:53 PM, Immortal_Flame wrote:

At 10/18/04 11:43 PM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote:

Ever heard of that abbreviation STFU?
Good, im glad, now use it.

Hahaha, man o man you have a lot to learn. Oh yes and to comply to your wishes please STFU. Nobody wants to see your little ass around here ever again.

I second that motion.

shut your hole, i still cant believe you made that Oasis.
Any dumbass Flamer will come in there and continue the flame.

A huh, you see once the flame enters there we will take action resulting in the flamers bannishment.

The Oasis is cool. Don't mess with the spa and sauna.

Dumbass

Im told that everyday....and It seems like your the only dumbass around here.

Who else says that? *raises hand*. It's unanimous. Soccer_Axum, you apparently are.

At 10/19/04 12:00 AM, Sorcerer_Axum wrote: Ooooo

Aaaaaah...

Fiesty, i like that.

Grr... Hiss... Are you turned on?

I could care less if anyone wanted me around, look at Wiz.

If you really make people mad, you'll get banned. Just a warning.

I come here to make life hell.

Great. You've defiled the NG Church. Are you happy??

Oh and Flame, when you bann them (yea right) you know dial-up connections have changing ips, theyll come back.

You can ban IP addresses, and user names. They'd have to change computer connections, and user names. If they're that desperate to get in, just let them.

Theres only 1 real way to bann me or anyone else with a brain.
Go ask Chaos, she knows

Ban your user name? Not that hard.

Oh and for the record, i suggest you STFU, bee-yatch.

Oh-no-you-did-unt! Girlfriend, let's get this soccer player.

Dont let this become another Wiz. Your already lowering the IQ around hurr

... You spelled "here" wrong. The IQ could not get lower than between your ears.

Ok, sorry. To bring a little aethist view to this discussion, I'll ask a question: How do you explain the fact that God existed forever? I mean, please explain this to me. I think that either something created him, or he does not exist.

Ok to start off i say no one flame him cuz i know how this will turn out.

Now then, yes people get orgasmic over the wierdest things and not that didnt get me orgasmic.

And i cant believe no one listens to Chingy.

Your thinking of all the wrong ways to bann a person.

Username-wont work, what if i just log out and re register?
IP-wont work, dial up connections constantly changing IP, dynamic IP, all factors.
Email-Im sure everyone has atleast 2 email addy's

I think theres one more way but i forgot, its like 1 in the morn here.

And you cant call this a church, come on, people from all religons and one atheist.
Great church you have here, this is like discussing who is better, bush or kerry.

We all know they both suck ass....

At 10/19/04 12:45 AM, Master_Unlucky wrote: How do you explain the fact that God existed forever? I mean, please explain this to me.

God exists. It as simple as that. He has always been around. Something had to be first, and it was God

I think that either something created him, or he does not exist.

I'll answer your question with another question. If God was created by something else (I'm not saying he was) than who came first and created God?

very good point. however, the bible, itself, is a history collection which was written by men, men who had minds. theoretically, could it not be possible that the men who followed Jesus did not want people to know that their savior hated them?

Even theoretically no it is not possible. Jesus died on the cross, even though it would have been easy for Him to escape, he decided to save man by dieing for our sins. Also remember that the Bible is not just a history collection. It is the Word of God.

Judgment Day
Revelation 20:11-15

INTRODUCTION

Judgment. Our world today is fascinated by judgment. Judgment is even considered to be entertainment. We have numerous T.V. court shows, sitcoms about judges and judgment, court T.V., and movies galore that feed off of the theme or subject of judgment.

Judgment is something we all will have to endure sooner or later. As humans there are two appointments we will be unable to get out of: death and judgment. The Bible says that it’s appointed unto men once to die, after that the judgment. This does not exclude any one.

If we’re saved then we will undergo the judgment of Christ in which our works are tried by fire, but if we leave this world without Christ then we must face judgment before God at His great white throne.

THEME: WHAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN GOD’S JUDGMENT?

I. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE A JUDGE Revelation 20:11

A. There Will Be A Throne

NOTE: This is the throne referred to as the great white throne of judgment.

1. A judge sits on this throne

NOTE: The throne is the symbol for a king or ruler. In times past when there was a legal dispute, the matter would be brought before the king or ruler for judgment.

2. The judge is mighty
a. The earth fled at His presence
b. The heavens fled at His presence

B. A Man Will Not Judge Himself

NOTE: He will think too highly of himself and would not judge fairly

C. Loved Ones Will Not Be The Judge

NOTE: Loved ones will overlook a lot of faults. Proverbs tells us that love covers all sin.

NOTE: A man went over to his neighbor’s house and found him beating on his wife. When he saw the bruises and blood he rushed inside and hit his neighbor saying, “I can’t believe you can treat your wife like that!” The wife then ran into the kitchen, grabbed a broom and said’ “Take your hands off of my husband and leave him alone!” Love can cause blindness.

D. Enemies Won’t Be The Judge

NOTE: He would be prejudiced and would be too quick to condemn no matter what the evidence was.

E. God Will Be The Judge
1. He is infinite in His knowledge

NOTE: There is nothing God does not know. Nothing has ever nor ever will be unknown to God.

2. Nothing can be hidden from Him

T.S. WHAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN GOD’S JUDGMENT?

I. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE A JUDGE

II. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE THE JUDGED Revelation 20:12-13

A. The Dead Both Great And Small Will Be Judged

B. The Dead Of The Sea Will Be Judged

C. The Dead Of Death And Of Hell Will Be Judged

NOTE: These would included those who went through life as if there were no God; the murderers, the thief, the whoremonger, the liar, the sorcerer, and the plain old out and out sinner.
The one who is a “good person” and feels like God is good for some, but he doesn’t need Him. He’s okay by himself; he doesn’t need God to forgive him will be there.
The “professor of religion, but not possessors of Jesus” will be judged. These are the unsaved church members who played Christian instead of living Christian.
The prideful will be there; those who allowed pride to keep them from receiving Christ. They were too worried about what others would say or think.
And the procrastinators will be there. These are the ones who know they are lost, know they need Jesus, believe in the truth, but kept saying ”next week” until there were no more weeks.

T.S. WHAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN GOD’S JUDGMENT?

I. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE THE JUDGE

II. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE THE JUDGED

III. IN GOD’S JUDGMENT THERE WILL BE THE JUDGMENT Revelation 20:12-15

NOTE: In a courtroom trial there are always three things present: the evidence, the defense, and the verdict.

A. The Evidence verse 12
1. The books will be used for evidence
a. The book of works
b. The book of life
2. The evidence will be there and will be used to judge

NOTE: Recorded in the books will be every lie told, every evil thought, every act of fornication and/or adultery, thievery, and every other wrong ever been done.

B. The Defense

NOTE: There will be no outside defense available. Every person will stand alone. There will be no accepted alibis. The evidence will be so overwhelming that it will eclipse any defense.

C. The Verdict verses 14-15
1. It’s a verdict of condemnation
2. Whoever’s name is not in the book of life will be cast into the lake of fire

NOTE: The Lake of fire is a literal place where the worm dies not and the fire is never quenched. There will be weeping and wailing, gnashing of teeth, and an eternity of torment.

CONCLUSION

God’s judgment is real. It’s appointed unto men once to die then cometh judgment. If you fail to receive Christ as your savior then you will face judgment at God’s great white throne.

At this judgment there will be the judge. This is a righteous judge. There will be no partiality, there will be no more second chances; just honest, righteous judgment.

There will be the judged. These are those without Christ in their life.

There will be the judgments. No alibis will be accepted here. The evidence will be so overwhelming and stacked that it will cause speechlessness. There will be no viable defense. The verdict is condemnation and eternal torment.

There is good news however. The most wonderful news in the world is that Jesus came to seek and to save that which was lost. The good news is that you don’t have to be judged and sentenced to Hell. You don’t have to remain lost; you don’t have to be condemned. You can be saved right now.

Allow Jesus to come into your life and into your heart tonight. Don’t think you can get by without Him, don’t allow pride to keep you from him, and don’t wait until next week because it may be too late

At 10/18/04 10:20 PM, DivineCrusader wrote: A good quote, from a great man.

I meant to type Elwood Blues. But at least you knew what I ment.

since we are talking about judgement, according to your beliefs, what awaits in judgement for those who not christians, such as hindus, buddhists, jews, muslims, and even athiests who uphold decent lifestyles of love and aid to their fellow man?

At 10/19/04 04:26 PM, Strauss69 wrote: since we are talking about judgement, according to your beliefs, what awaits in judgement for those who not christians, such as hindus, buddhists, jews, muslims, and even athiests who uphold decent lifestyles of love and aid to their fellow man?

all of gods children will make it to heaven

At 10/19/04 04:26 PM, Strauss69 wrote: since we are talking about judgement, according to your beliefs, what awaits in judgement for those who not christians, such as hindus, buddhists, jews, muslims

I'm not going there. I dont know whats going to happen to them. I think/hope they will. But I was brought up with excepting Jesus is the only path that will get you salvation

and even athiests who uphold decent lifestyles of love and aid to their fellow man?

Honestly, I think God will put them in purgitory. Those who disrepect Gods word . . . well the are Hertics.

At 10/19/04 03:59 PM, -Blitz- wrote: I meant to type Elwood Blues. But at least you knew what I ment.

Yes, the spelling wasnt that off. So it wasnt hard to figure out who you were talking about.

Im back and i will get to finish the NG Church site i hope you like it once im done im going to eat first though! And i still need a member list! Make sure to drop in if you have any questions (once its done)

I so promise to all the n00bs and flamers if i see you post 2 more times your crap i will get a Mod over here! i will tell them to ban ya! so i advise you stay on the topic and quit spamming!

come on people come here with questions or join!

Weren't there two judgement days already? The one where the world was flooded, and when fire rained from the sky? And didn't God say that He wan't destroy the world through fire or water now?

At 10/19/04 05:28 PM, -Blitz- wrote: Weren't there two judgement days already?

Very good question!

The one where the world was flooded,
that wasnt judgement day Noah was spared and so were the animals.In the true judgement day all christians will go to heaven and the rest will suffer under the antichrist for 7 years you will then wish you were a christian after hell on earth for 7 years you will spend eternity in hell. Check out divine crusaiders signature "The lafe of fire".

and when fire rained from the sky?
Nope not judgement day either

And didn't God say that He wan't destroy the world through fire or water now?

God wont EVER destroy the world through water again he said so and the rainbow was made as a sing of his promise. And if he would destroy the world through fire it would be on judgement day.

So to everyone i advise you become a christian and change your ways! also im done with the website and will post it in a matter of seconds!

At 10/19/04 05:28 PM, -Blitz- wrote: Weren't there two judgement days already?

Decoy-Octopus already did the Noah one so i'll do the Fire one.
The fire raining down from the sky was one of the 10 Plagues of Egypt. It only happened there.

Decoy-Octopus i am very impressed by you knowlage.

http://www.freewebs.com/ngchurch go to forums for questions,sermons etc. and for those of you who are embaressed arrange a private chat in the chatroom and we will help you now please someone contact all teh members of the club and tell em to sing up in our forums.

At 10/19/04 07:27 PM, DivineCrusader wrote:

At 10/19/04 05:28 PM, -Blitz- wrote: Weren't there two judgement days already?

Decoy-Octopus already did the Noah one so i'll do the Fire one.
The fire raining down from the sky was one of the 10 Plagues of Egypt. It only happened there.

thanks for taking that one! i fogot about it!

Decoy-Octopus i am very impressed by you knowlage.

Why Thank you :-D i have Bible class in me school

At 10/19/04 07:32 PM, Decoy-Octopus wrote: site made

Dude the site looks great. Hook me up as a admin. there is some stuff i want to add.

Sure thing Crusaider!

At 10/19/04 07:41 PM, Decoy-Octopus wrote: Sure thing Crusaider!

Good man. I have some really good ideas to put on those fourms.

At 10/19/04 07:48 PM, AlastorTheDevil wrote: lol banned

Thanks Alastor, that dude would not shut up.