Apparently, they've sued Mojang for the use of the word "Scrolls" (their new game).
Jeez, this is like Facebook trying to copyright "Face" and "Book"
Saw this earlier, its completely fucking stupid. Are they going to copyright a game because it has the word 'the' in the title next?
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Yeah, remember when Facebook wanted to trademark the words "face" and "book". I guess Mojang owns the words "mine" and "craft". Oh well, Bethesda doesn't really have much on Mojang, I don't see how they could win.
It would make more sense if they were being sued by Blizzard.
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At 8/5/11 08:08 PM, desert116 wrote: It would make more sense if they were being sued by Blizzard.
It would.
At 8/5/11 08:08 PM, desert116 wrote: It would make more sense if they were being sued by Blizzard.
This man is in trouble.
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At 8/5/11 08:54 PM, logic wrote: What a load of bull, the creators of StarCraft might as well be suing them too if that was the case.
That's what the Blizzard jokes in this thread are about.
Oh man they're fucked if these guys step in aswell http://www.uvlist.net/search?fname=craft
Also I think it's just their lawyers being dick offs rather Bethesda as a whole . I'm going to be pissed if anything ruins Skyrim.
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Firstly, the title is a lie. They aren't suing Notch, yet.
They told him when he tried to register "Scrolls" that it conflicted with their trademark. And it does, to be honest. It's a similar title, for another game. What Notch says about thinking it should be fine because the content is different is irrelevant. Trademarks have absolutely nothing to do with content, only the words. Plus, Bethesda has to defend their trademark if they want to keep it, and that means defending it against anything even similar to it. Notch knew all of that, and still proceeded to ignore the issue, so now they're telling him once again to stop using a name so close to their trademark, or they will have to sue him.
The guy knew it was coming, had plenty of time to prevent the problem, and then complains when Bethesda actually follows through? Trying to act like the innocent party in this, when it's his own fault. I will never understand why people give so much credence to Notch, the guy's an idiot.
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At 8/6/11 05:28 AM, UncleABCD wrote: The guy knew it was coming, had plenty of time to prevent the problem, and then complains when Bethesda actually follows through? Trying to act like the innocent party in this, when it's his own fault. I will never understand why people give so much credence to Notch, the guy's an idiot.
You're a fucking idiot. "Scrolls" is in no way conflicting with "The Elder Scrolls." That's like the makers of Doom sueing the makers of the indie game "Doom Rails."
At 8/6/11 11:53 AM, SloppyMoe606 wrote: You're a fucking idiot. "Scrolls" is in no way conflicting with "The Elder Scrolls." That's like the makers of Doom sueing the makers of the indie game "Doom Rails."
It doesn't matter if you think it isn't the same trademark, all that matters in this is what the law thinks. Notch shouldn't have even publicized a legal matter this way, this whole thing should have been handled privately. People are blowing this way out of proportion, mostly his diehard fanboys, the case will most likely be dropped anyway.
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At 8/6/11 12:06 PM, UncleABCD wrote: It doesn't matter if you think it isn't the same trademark, all that matters in this is what the law thinks. Notch shouldn't have even publicized a legal matter this way, this whole thing should have been handled privately. People are blowing this way out of proportion, mostly his diehard fanboys, the case will most likely be dropped anyway.
People are blowing it out of proportion as much as Bethesda has...they are worried people will confuse the two, which is just stupid, not to mention it's one word.
Okay, what the fuck? I've never heard anything about this.
I know this decision probably has nothing at all to do with Todd Howard, but I find this amusing, especially after the little interview thing that went on at E3 between Todd and Notch. They seemed to be pretty pally toward one and other, although I always got this impression that Todd was a little weirded out by Notch. He just didn't seem too comfortable sitting in that room with him. Maybe it's because he knew Bethesda was about to rob Mojang in the coming months.
Iirc Bethesda hasn't actually sued anyone yet (I think it was just IGN being fucking morons and trying to get people to click onto the article by saying complete bullshit)
Knowing how publishers work though (I think its zenimax doing this right?) they might sue soon though if Notch doesn't respond quick enough lol
Notch hasn't really advertised the game much or released it yet so i dont see why they would bother suing
At 8/6/11 05:28 AM, UncleABCD wrote: Firstly, the title is a lie. They aren't suing Notch, yet.
The guy knew it was coming, had plenty of time to prevent the problem, and then complains when Bethesda actually follows through? Trying to act like the innocent party in this, when it's his own fault. I will never understand why people give so much credence to Notch, the guy's an idiot.
Because that is the stupidest fucking thing I have ever heard.
Seriously, by that kind of logic the guy who wrote the first fucking dictionary could sue the fucking planet over and over.
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Good hopefully they'll crush Mojang into the ground
Copyright law in general has gotten so ridiculous. Suing someone over single, individual words is one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
Shame on you, Besthesda, I thought you were more mature than that.
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To me, I feel like either it's the lawyers who started this, or Notch has blown this way out of proportion as some sort of retaliation against bethesda. That's just me though.
I don't even think this is possible.
They might think it is possible, but I think what they are doing is logically incoherent. Lawyers, aren't linguists, they don't know anything about the formation of the English language, so it would seem. Notch needs linguists not lawyers! Copyrighting grammar "the elder scrolls" is not even syntactically the same as copyrighting every lexicon "scrolls"! If anything "The Elder Scrolls" becomes a noun, to depict the game to which the copyright refers too. That does not then mean that every adjective, verb phrase, and lexis in that clause is then referring to the depicted noun.
The lawyers are fallacious.
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Notch was trying to patent the game name "Scrolls" if he received his patent he could have turned around and sued Bethesda for the same thing. They're just trying to protect themselves.
At 8/6/11 05:28 AM, UncleABCD wrote:
This guy is correct, stop being ignorant fucks and deal with it.
At 8/7/11 08:58 AM, Gasthecar wrote: Good hopefully they'll crush Mojang into the ground
I agree with this statement.
That's just sad... is your budget really that tight that you have to sue over a word?
It's either Bethesdas lawyers or Zenimax. I doubt anybody that works at Bethesda would care.
http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8519901309/
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At 8/7/11 03:37 PM, Thegluestickman wrote: Notch was trying to patent the game name "Scrolls" if he received his patent he could have turned around and sued Bethesda for the same thing. They're just trying to protect themselves.
He could, but he most likely wouldn't. The only time he's ever time he's ever taken advantage of having "Minecraft" copyrighted is when there was an iOS clone and people kept mistaken it for being official.
At 8/7/11 04:28 PM, Jolly wrote: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/8519901309/
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Ignore that. I didn't bother looking at the link in the OP because I've already read about it.
At 8/7/11 10:06 AM, MrPercie wrote:At 8/7/11 08:58 AM, Gasthecar wrote: Good hopefully they'll crush Mojang into the groundyeah, lets support the shitty betheseda suing a company that made millions for actually being good that maiing that utter shit they call elder scolls 4 and skyrim
God, just shut up before you embarrass yourself some more. The Elder Scrolls us a multi hundred million dollar franchise, and they are several weight classes above Mojang.
At 8/7/11 04:28 PM, Jolly wrote:
At 8/7/11 03:37 PM, Thegluestickman wrote: Notch was trying to patent the game name "Scrolls" if he received his patent he could have turned around and sued Bethesda for the same thing. They're just trying to protect themselves.He could, but he most likely wouldn't. The only time he's ever time he's ever taken advantage of having "Minecraft" copyrighted is when there was an iOS clone and people kept mistaken it for being official.
That could have been the other way around for Bethesda, people could confuse the Elder Scrolls with Scrolls, and if Scrolls was bad it could bring down the Elder Scrolls name. Mind you, only an idiot would get it confused but being an idiot is what people do best. If Bethesda has to sue they would win but I can't imagine it coming to that. IIRC that link only said they're threatening to sue not actually suing. But I guess we will see.
Ng, are you sure it isn't lawyers being lawyers? its not like the company said they are, just the lawyers.
