I think the scout update was released around 9 or 10 p.m.

We're probably still going to be waiting for a few hours.

At 5/21/09 08:37 PM, xthesnarfx wrote: Guys...its up...

Thanks for the warning. I certainly wouldn't have known otherwise.

Spies can use enemy's teleporters now! Now that's what I call a good update Valve!

At 5/21/09 08:28 PM, malachi117 wrote: It would be less than the memory for DLC from games like Fallout 3.

ya.
but i think they would wait till they have a shitload of updates.
and charge it on xbla for like 15 bucks.

At 5/21/09 08:41 PM, xthesnarfx wrote: Spies can use enemy's teleporters now! Now that's what I call a good update Valve!

Where's the change log? Steam News is useless at the moment, and I'm betting the forum servers are going up and down.

RRRGGG STEAM KEEPS CRASHING WHENEVER I START IT TO PLAY Team Fortress 2 !

At 5/21/09 08:45 PM, duper1012 wrote: RRRGGG STEAM KEEPS CRASHING WHENEVER I START IT TO PLAY Team Fortress 2 !

Update then, like the rest of us are doing.

http://www.steampowered.com/platform/upd ate_history/index.php?id=440

Spy got so many great things out of this without ANY negatives. Disguising as an enemy spy is actually useful now, disguises are more convincing, you can use enemy teleporters, unlockable disguise weapons, disguising as a medic shows that you have an ubercharge...

CRAZY! Sniper can shoot through allies now, too. =P

wow was lagging

i thought game was being retarded

apparently the update is downloading in steam

fuck yeah huntsman

I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play I wanna play

):

Awesome
just awesome

Died a virgin

At 5/21/09 09:42 PM, Chiklay4 wrote: Died a virgin

That made me think of the Frenchy from Monty Python and the Holy Grail

At 5/21/09 09:42 PM, Chiklay4 wrote: Died a virgin

You know what you and Jane Austin have in common? You're both dead...women.

Oh, so now you can pick up someone's unlock weapon?

Did I read the Steam update page correctly?

all the servers are too goddamned laggy and full to play

fuck

Pyro is now officially a girl. Look in your materials.

VALLLLLLLLLVE !

At 5/21/09 09:59 PM, WilliWowza wrote:

At 5/21/09 09:42 PM, Chiklay4 wrote: Died a virgin

You know what you and Jane Austin have in common? You're both dead...women.

it sounds like duke nukem with a australian accent

At 5/21/09 10:57 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: Pyro is now officially a girl. Look in your materials.

VALLLLLLLLLVE !

Holy shit where do I download the TF2 authoring tools?

At 5/21/09 10:57 PM, VenomKing666 wrote: Pyro is now officially a girl. Look in your materials.

VALLLLLLLLLVE !

Bah Valve just threw that in there to throw you off, the Pyro is really the Fire God incarnate. That's how it can hadoken shit.

Ah, CRAP! I hate having ONE sniper in a server! Having a massive sniper rush after the update is going to be HELL.

then again...it would be fun to be the spy to backstab all those assholes.

At 5/21/09 11:33 PM, TheBananaboy wrote: Ah, CRAP! I hate having ONE sniper in a server! Having a massive sniper rush after the update is going to be HELL.

then again...it would be fun to be the spy to backstab all those assholes.

Someone does not know about alternate paths.

2 hours of Steam fucking up (not just TF2, L4D too) .. the online users dropping by 800,000 people in 5 minutes.. and the unlockable weapons are impossible to get. I miss the old achievement unlock system -.-

At 5/22/09 12:38 AM, liaaaam wrote: 2 hours of Steam fucking up (not just TF2, L4D too) .. the online users dropping by 800,000 people in 5 minutes.. and the unlockable weapons are impossible to get. I miss the old achievement unlock system -.-

no its not

just join an achievement farming server

At 5/22/09 01:47 AM, Fyndir wrote: I'm in love with the rage on the Steam forums, "bawwwwww I can't achievement farm for a couple of hours to get all the weapons, I hate Valve forever ='(" seems to be the most common complaint.

I am so glad that Valve are being brave and moving away from the hideously broken achievement system for their unlocks, the new system may not be perfect either, but at least they're trying.

I don't know.

I'm personally not really gravitated towards working for some bullshit "goal" of farming achievements just for the slightest chance that the item I want drops.

I want to get 6 random achievements and get my fucking Hunstman. I don't want to get all fucking 35 just for it to drop last because I don't even want the two pieces of shit before it.

This annoys me and totally killed all my excitement about the update.

At 5/22/09 02:16 AM, Fyndir wrote:

At 5/22/09 02:14 AM, Pounce wrote: I'm personally not really gravitated towards working for some bullshit "goal" of farming achievements just for the slightest chance that the item I want drops.

So don't farm the achievements?

Just play normally and get the drops that way.

Almost 9/10 of the achievements are impossible to earn by normal means other than having an immense amount of patience and luck over hundreds of hours.

I didn't wait months and months so I could depend on a random number generator to decide when I'll enjoy an update or not.

At 5/22/09 02:21 AM, Pounce wrote:

At 5/22/09 02:16 AM, Fyndir wrote:

At 5/22/09 02:14 AM, Pounce wrote: I'm personally not really gravitated towards working for some bullshit "goal" of farming achievements just for the slightest chance that the item I want drops.

So don't farm the achievements?

Just play normally and get the drops that way.

Almost 9/10 of the achievements are impossible to earn by normal means other than having an immense amount of patience and luck over hundreds of hours.

I didn't wait months and months so I could depend on a random number generator to decide when I'll enjoy an update or not.

I'm confused. Are you guys saying the unlock items are based on chance, and you don't unlock them in a specific order now? Or am I missing something else here?

At 5/22/09 02:25 AM, DirtySyko wrote: I'm confused. Are you guys saying the unlock items are based on chance, and you don't unlock them in a specific order now? Or am I missing something else here?

Yeah, pretty much.

The medic update had 36 achievements. You got the Blutsauger at 12 achievements, the Kritzkrieg at 24, and the Ubersaw at 36.

And for the others, it went 6-12-18 or something like that to make it easier.

Except now, there's 35 achievements each, instead of coming in increments, it's all entirely random on when you'll get a new weapon or not.

I'm at 17 or something on my sniper and still haven't got one fucking thing yet.

At 5/22/09 02:24 AM, Fyndir wrote: Go cry about it on the Steam forums with the other retards then, this change means there's actually hope for TF2.

Pissing in an ocean of piss. Nothing I do will change their decision.

I'm reading the TF2 forums now, and everyone makes it seem like items literally DROP when you kill someone. A guy says he saw somebody kill one guy and the Ambassador dropped, whereas he killed like 35 people and ended up getting something he already had unlocked.