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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 19:42:52 Reply

I think this is an awesome new... dealy. Hopefully I'll get on the judges panel sometime this year.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 20:24:19 Reply

Wierd... I don't have that much experience and I haven't been recording it for a year, only about half a year, and yet I'm still allowed to vote. Is it because my flash is nominated? Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread, so this has probably been answered.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 20:30:48 Reply

Something should be implemented, maybe, where you can start at the first movie, and it just runs through all of the movies in the same window, so I don't have to keep clicking and injure my fingers and my eyes. Maybe have it force the voters to completely watch eachand every movie before they're allowed to vote. and stuff. But yeah, this is really cool. I saw a lot of stuff I didn't catch before. I could see this possibly giving a lot of exposure to some of these up and coming artists who aren't very well known, and give them an incentive to keep submitting flash. If I would have known the point system was weighted, I probably would have organized my top 5 a little better. I assumed that since there are five winners, the 1 through 5 ranking would be weighted the same. kbye.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 20:46:52 Reply

At 3/2/05 08:24 PM, food1 wrote: Wierd... I don't have that much experience and I haven't been recording it for a year, only about half a year, and yet I'm still allowed to vote. Is it because my flash is nominated? Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread, so this has probably been answered.

Sorry I'm an idiot. I didn't read the whole page. Ignore that post.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 21:22:20 Reply

At 3/2/05 05:09 PM, Bezman wrote:
At 3/2/05 03:47 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:
At 3/2/05 09:39 AM, Bezman wrote:
http://ngtlexp.idohost.com/rev-022705-1.html

I'm not even on the list even though i have 209 reviews.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 23:48:27 Reply

At 3/2/05 08:28 AM, TomFulp wrote:
At 3/1/05 09:41 PM, gfoxclock wrote: Secondly: Are the votes at all weighted? By that, I mean by the exp of the user, like our votes are on the portal? Or does everyone have an equal say of the 2000 (well, 1800 or whatever)? And if that's the case, then how do the 1st/2nd/3rd/4th/5th votes weigh differently? Is it basically 5 votes for 1st, 4 votes for 2nd, 3 votes for 3rd, 2 votes for 4th, 1 vote for 5th? And then tally all the votes up?
I like the idea about voluntary flagging of alt accounts. :)

Thanks. I hope it's possible to implement something like that. I'd definitely take part in it to ensure that my main account remains eligible for things like this voting process and for the monthly cashforvotes contests and so forth. I don't like the idea of finding out my alt account won something and then realising I can't claim it because it's my alt. If that system was put into place, such things would be prevented from happening in the first place by taking all indicated-as-an-alt accounts out of the running for them, yanno?

As for the votes you cast - they aren't weighted based on experience points, but yes, a vote of "1st" is worth 5 points and a vote of "5th" is worth 1 point. The submissions are ranked based on total points. We store all the individual voting data and have experimented with various ways to run the numbers. This seems like the most fair way to tally the votes but suggestions are always welcome.

Wahoo, I guessed correctly. Thanks for the confirmation on that. The 5/4/3/2/1 system seems fair to me, and it also makes sense to give everyone a fair even vote in it. I don't think mods or humantarget should get more say than the authors themselves and the lower exp (but still dedicated NG user) people. After all, this is a whole new system, and while you're basing who gets to be in on it on exp, it shouldn't be tied to our normal portal Voting Powers or anything.

Anyway, thanks for the reply, Tom. It's always good to know you've noticed/read a post in these huge topics (sometimes I think I'd be better off e-mailing you #;-}>).


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 23:50:09 Reply

At 3/2/05 05:03 PM, Micol_Rankin_Games wrote: 1. Have less to choose from. People are lazy......most people....so chances are they REALLY WON'T TRULY view/play through 150 pieces. Either make it less pieces or make a longer time period to view the 150.

How are they going to cut down on the nominations, though? Use only the top 2 from each day instead of the top 5? What about on some days of the week when there's FOUR great movies and another days there's only ONE great movie.

That means that the 2nd place on that second day (which is just a GOOD but not great movie) will get to be nominated for the monthly vote... but that the 3rd and 4th place GREAT movies from the first day do not get to be in the vote.

That would kinda suck, no?

ALSO, I must point this out:

It was kinda a surprise THIS time, but for the March vote on April 1st, it's going to be a lot easier to prepare. Why?

BECAUSE YOU CAN GET STARTED RIGHT NOW.

Wake up, people. The Daily Top 5 on the frontpage of NG is going to be in the next vote. All 31 of them from March. So you can START to get ready for the next vote by trying to watch ALL of the daily top 5 each day (or week, or whatever). By doing so, you'll be prepared for the vote. You could also try watching the top 20 weekly list, if there's any variance there with the daily top 5s (7*5 = 35 per week).

And finally, to catch any other nominees, you'll have to watch all the flash on the frontpage as well. Well, all the NEW flash. Numa Numa Dance obviously doesn't count. #;-}>

2. Categorize the games and the movies seperate. Lets just take a look at the number of games to movies in this competition, not to mention the top 50 slots, and not to mention the number of game submissions to movie submissions. Maybe an award for games and an award for movies seperate. This would give both sides more direct competition, and also level the playing field for those whom submit games (myself included)

I wouldn't mind the game/movie separation, actually. I will be voting for at least one game this time (and one next time, too--Orbox), but... hm. Do you mean there'd be 5 game awards AND 5 movie awards? That's gonna be 2500 bucks. Not sure if Tom wants to spend that much per month + the 100 to a depositor for a total of 2600 in prize money every month. There ARE limits to Tom's generosity, as well there should be. #;-}>

3. Even MORE SELECTIVE group of voters. I know the goal is to include the newgrounds public, however the 2,000 tops may still be a little high of a number for judges. This one not so much as the other two suggestions but still kinda.

That may change, yes. I'll wager that Tom set it to top 2000 active to find out how many of those top 2000 will actually vote (some may be alts, for one thing, and some may have been active in Feb but are not active right now and don't know this is
going on).

At 3/2/05 09:39 AM, Bezman wrote:
At 3/2/05 02:16 AM, gfoxcook wrote: A partially informed vote on this matter is much better than not casting your ballot at all. There are PLENTY of voters, and any ignorance you have of some great work will be more than made up for by the voters who have seen those flashes that you missed.
I suppose I agree that a partially informed vote is better than none at all, but I would strongly urge folk to watch as many as they can.

Tom doesn't expect perfection from us, but yes, obviously watching as many as you can is advised. Still, many people voted as soon as they could, and how many of them do you think had seen all 150 movies? We're only human, man. Not robots.

If folk rely on others to vote for those they may have missed, then we'd end up with a basically skewed 'popularity vote' rather than a genuinely well informed vote of quality as I think the panel was meant to generate.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Some of the movies I had already seen before this vote were NOT the most popular of the movies on the list. I hadn't seen either of the two IllWillPress movies, for instance, but I had seen Destination Mouth, which I doubt is anywhere near as popular as either of those two. I WILL be watching both IllWills in the next day or so, but I doubt either one will be on my list, whereas Destination Mouth is DEFINITELY on it. #;-}>

I was going to suggest again that the voting time be lengthened to 7 days but I suppose if the voting possible winners are known beforehand, as they will be this month, folk will be able to watch them in their own time beforehand anyway.

EXACTLY my point to the other guy. Yar.

Maybe that could be turned into a secret or something for easier reference than looking up the bot's various posts and the frontpage archive? Have a link to see 'the shortlist thus far' or something like that.

Great idea. E-mail it to Tom in case he doesn't see your post.

(snip the rest, but one more thing:)

As for expanding the scope/range of movies nominated/possible to vote on... you could always allow for a "write-in" feature where people put in an "extra 6th vote" with the ID# of the movie from February they want to vote for.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-02 23:51:14 Reply

At 3/2/05 05:08 AM, Deadlock32 wrote:
At 3/2/05 02:33 AM, gfoxcook wrote: Come to think of it... I'm not sure what's up with that.
Thanks for finally understanding what was going through my head... but s'ok i'll wait for next month like u = ]

No problemo. But I don't know what you mean by "like u," because I don't have to wait for next month. I'm voting THIS month, too. O_o

At 3/2/05 05:09 AM, mackan_ wrote:
At 3/1/05 09:41 PM, gfoxclock wrote: stuff about his and others alternative accounts
all this talk about alternative accounts, I mean, WHY do people have alternative accounts? is it even allowed? I don't think it should be...

The only thing that alts can be used for that's not allowed on NG is:

A) using one to get around a ban on another account of yours
B) using one to get around any limitations NG imposes (number of topics, number of replies per 30 mins, 2 submissions in the portal a day, etc. etc.)
C) using one to get around a portal submission ban on another account of yours
D) using one to create multiple accounts for spamming up NG either on the BBS or with reviews

Capisce? I hope so. Stop bagging on alt accounts, foolio. I use mine to post when I don't want to disturb my wonderful -00 ending round-numbered postcount on this account (like the 7900 I'm going to hit as soon as I post this... if I want to post again before my list updates are due on Saturday, I'll be using gfoxclock, my alt).

Plus I have another alt for my gf to use if she needs a NG account ever. :::nods:::

At 3/2/05 07:19 PM, Crimson-Nova wrote:
At 3/2/05 03:46 PM, DareDevilGuy wrote: At times like this, I regret I stopped depositing
Did you miss the boat on this?? Thats funny, cuz I'm on the list and I have 2393 exp.

And you're ranked around #2500 in exp, too. Thanks for confirming my thought that one doesn't need 3650 exp (as of now, at least) to qualify for this vote.

Now, by next month, it's possible that more and more of the idle people will resume getting exp due to noticing it has a VERY practical use now aside from good ol' Voting Power.

At 3/2/05 08:24 PM, food1 wrote: Wierd... I don't have that much experience and I haven't been recording it for a year, only about half a year, and yet I'm still allowed to vote. Is it because my flash is nominated? Sorry, I didn't read the whole thread, so this has probably been answered.

You don't need to read the THREAD to find out, read the FAQ about the voting:

http://www.newgrounds.com/monthlyvote.html

(I know you said to ignore that post, but I already typed this out PLUS other people might be wondering the same thing, so now the link's on page 10 for them to see as well, kay? Kay)

At 3/2/05 08:30 PM, PimpMasterKDOG wrote: Something should be implemented, maybe, where you can start at the first movie, and it just runs through all of the movies in the same window, so I don't have to keep clicking and injure my fingers and my eyes. Maybe have it force the voters to completely watch eachand every movie before they're allowed to vote. and stuff.

PMKD, I loves ya but... are you insane? O_o

Tom didn't tell us to see all 150 movies before we vote, and I don't think he'd even dream of telling us to do that or REQUIRING us to do that. He knows that users don't have 24 hours of free time per day and he also knows that people might already have their favourites. We're trusted to vote based on QUALITY and not on other matters, and that's enough. If you've only see 50 of the 150 movies and you vote based on the top 5 of that 150, it's still a valid vote.

At 3/2/05 12:46 PM, Morextremist wrote: I don't think users who just vote on flash should be eligible for $100 cash, maybe a discount for a product like macromedia flash or something. Maybe get them to be a contributor...

Voting on movies isn't AS valuable as a contribution to Newgrounds as submitting quality flash is, but it is STILL a contribution. Let Tom do what he wants with a mere 100 per month. It's NOTHING compared to the 250 * 5 = 1250 that's going to flash authors each month, eh? So why the complaining about non-flash authors?


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At 3/2/05 11:51 PM, gfoxcook wrote:
PMKD, I loves ya but... are you insane? O_o

Tom didn't tell us to see all 150 movies before we vote, and I don't think he'd even dream of telling us to do that or REQUIRING us to do that. He knows that users don't have 24 hours of free time per day and he also knows that people might already have their favourites. We're trusted to vote based on QUALITY and not on other matters, and that's enough. If you've only see 50 of the 150 movies and you vote based on the top 5 of that 150, it's still a valid vote.

Yes I am insane. Yes I have free time. I didn't really mean to watch all of them, just something so you can browse through them easier. I want this to be as efficient like german sex.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 00:55:08 Reply

i feel honored to be apart of the voting, and i casted mine. cant wait to see the results. nice idea tom

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 04:40:58 Reply

I'm on the panel! I feel fucking special.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 07:11:47 Reply

At 3/2/05 05:19 PM, _Luis_ wrote: just two more days to bid on a chance to be in ng history. My auction for a chance to login and take my vote, auction is now is at $325.50. free shipping and handling. Paypal is OK.

ah wtf? you'll make more than the winners...that aint right.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 07:35:02 Reply

I know I'm completely off topic here (from what you guys seem to be talking about), but I have finally submitted my choices and I feel fairly confident about them. Wow, there were a lot of good submissions from which to judge.


Count the bodies like sheep to the rhythm of the war drum...

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 12:51:42 Reply

Hmm, I know it's nice to have a large list of nominees to vote on, but I reeally don't have the time to watch all of those. So I'm very sorry to all those who's movies I didn't get around to viewing. I did watch more flash movies than I have ever watched in one day though!!

Also, does anyone know how the movies were ordered on that list?? Are they just randomly on there? It's not alphabetic and it's not by date.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 12:58:42 Reply

At 3/3/05 12:51 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote: It's not alphabetic and it's not by date.

Yes, it is alphabetic.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 14:13:20 Reply

All I remember is I picked:
1st -Play-
2nd: Stick Slayer

I Forget teh rest

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 14:22:47 Reply

At 3/2/05 11:50 PM, gfoxcook wrote: We're only human, man. Not robots.

So says one of the guys who voted on thousands to raise the judgement level.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 17:01:01 Reply

Took me close to 40 minutes in deciding my vote. Some top quality flash choices make it hard to decide.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 17:47:17 Reply

So, tomorrow gonna be the BIG day, I guess ;)

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At 3/3/05 05:47 PM, Regis_Cartoons wrote: So, tomorrow gonna be the BIG day, I guess ;)

Yeah, good luck to everyone who is an author of these very hard to do flashes. The talent level on this site is incredible and I am actually (as gay as this sounds) honored to be creating with you all.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 22:38:29 Reply

At 3/3/05 10:04 PM, Micol_Rankin_Games wrote:
At 3/3/05 05:47 PM, Regis_Cartoons wrote: So, tomorrow gonna be the BIG day, I guess ;)
Yeah, good luck to everyone who is an author of these very hard to do flashes. The talent level on this site is incredible and I am actually (as gay as this sounds) honored to be creating with you all.

Likewise!!

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At 3/3/05 12:58 PM, liljim wrote:
At 3/3/05 12:51 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote: It's not alphabetic and it's not by date.
Yes, it is alphabetic.

Oh wait... you're right. Mine was out of order because it had "- -" around it.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 23:17:19 Reply

At 3/3/05 10:41 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote:
At 3/3/05 12:58 PM, liljim wrote: Yes, it is alphabetic.
Oh wait... you're right. Mine was out of order because it had "- -" around it.

Yeah, I saw that and wondered to myself - will a few folk be tempted to include punctuation before their title, just to have it higher on the list?

I doubt it, but it was an interesting thing to ponder for a few seconds.

Me and my exciting life... :-/

Just to check, there's slightly under 25 hours left now, right? I mean, I presume the deadline's the NG roll-over, i.e. around 5amGMT?

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-03 23:24:40 Reply

At 3/3/05 10:41 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote: Oh wait... you're right. Mine was out of order because it had "- -" around it.

Righty. :)

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-04 10:26:21 Reply

Just wanted to make a quick post saying "Thank you, Tom" for putting me on the panel. I haven't been a NG user for too long and have yet to submit anything other than my own opinions, but thanks for giving me the chance to make some flash artists happy. ;-)

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-04 11:56:07 Reply

Wow, this sure was a surprise. I usually don't get picked for anything :P

I already made my choices and I'm happy to be a part.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-04 16:48:11 Reply

I'm eligible for some reason. Hm.


I used to be relevant.

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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-04 18:06:29 Reply

At 3/3/05 12:06 AM, PimpMasterKDOG wrote: Yes I am insane. Yes I have free time. I didn't really mean to watch all of them, just something so you can browse through them easier. I want this to be as efficient like german sex.

Oh, well that's true. It WOULD be nice to have a special custom viewer set up to just cut to the chase and be able to view the flashes up for the monthly voting without having to go through their actual pages, but... on the other hand, doing it this way means we get to see what award(s) the flashes already won, which... I dunno about for everyone else... but for me had an effect on what I voted for (if I was torn between two flashes for a spot on my list... and if one already got daily 1st and a weekly award... but the other one only got daily 3rd place... and I like them about the same amount... I'm going to give a higher vote (or a vote, period) to the flash that got "only" a daily 3rd).

So anyway, it'd be nice, but I'm not sure how easily that would be created by liljim. German sex, eh? o_o

At 3/3/05 12:58 PM, liljim wrote:
At 3/3/05 12:51 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote: It's not alphabetic and it's not by date.
Yes, it is alphabetic.

No kidding! It's alphabetic in the exact same way that the BBS users online lists are alphabetic, I should add.

That is, SOME non-letter characters will drop your name/flashtitle at the FRONT of the list... and others will drop it at the BACK of the list... but NO NON-LETTER CHARACTERS will be ignored and placed in the middle of the list.

IOW... (character)Hello! is never going to be sorted in with the H's... it will either be before the A's... or after the Z's. Hope that's helpful to people like Matt out there who were confused.

At 3/3/05 10:41 PM, Matt_Merrill wrote: Oh wait... you're right. Mine was out of order because it had "- -" around it.

Heh, there ya go. "-yourflash'sname" is going to be at the start of the list. And, I might add, "_yourflash'sname" will be at the END of the list. For whatever reason, dashes get counted as pre-alphabet and underscores get counted as post-alphabet... and that was no surprise to me due to it being--again--the same way on the BBS users online list.

And they all lived happily ever after.

At 3/3/05 11:17 PM, Bezman wrote: Yeah, I saw that and wondered to myself - will a few folk be tempted to include punctuation before their title, just to have it higher on the list?

I doubt it, but it was an interesting thing to ponder for a few seconds.

I thought of that yesterday, actually, but didn't want to say anything for fear of giving any jackasses ideas. I suspect that we will find more and more flash authors placing dashes or double-quotes in front of their titles... or making sure to start their titles with words like "A" or "An" or ones featuring other high-up-in-the-alphabet letters. The only question is... how many of THOSE flashes are going to be good enough to get on the front page and/or win one of the top 5 daily awards each day? That remains to be seen.

Just to check, there's slightly under 25 hours left now, right? I mean, I presume the deadline's the NG roll-over, i.e. around 5amGMT?

liljim said it will end at 11:59:59 PM ET (i.e. NG time) tonight, yes.

At 3/3/05 02:22 PM, Bezman wrote:
At 3/2/05 11:50 PM, gfoxcook wrote: We're only human, man. Not robots.
So says one of the guys who voted on thousands to raise the judgement level.

I had too much free time back then. :::swallows:::

Plus, um... most of the time I was just voting 3 or whatever was close enough to the flash's existing score... and not spending a lot of time watching them, reviewing them, or thinking about them all that much (though I did find some old gems while doing the process).

So, yeah... voting in the templist to get NG changed over from 100 votes UJ to 200 votes UJ... was nowhere near as tiresome as trying to watch 150 movies in a couple days. At least we had several months to do it, yanno?

At 3/4/05 04:48 PM, scottmale24 wrote: I'm eligible for some reason. Hm.

Experience: Ranked # 2,792 out of 693,193 users!

There are 792+ people ahead of you in experience who weren't active enough during February to qualify as one of the "top 2000 active exp users." That's the only reason, it ain't a mystery, man.

And I'm not that surprised by that, personally. Just look at the top 50... there's at least 5-10 people who aren't depositing at all, and a few more who deposit every now and then. If you go from there down all the way to #2000, you will find hundreds of non-depositing people. Trust me, I've passed quite a few of them to move up to my current #134 spot in exp.


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Response to Top Five February Voting! 2005-03-04 18:12:21 Reply

So anyway, I basically watched flash, scored flash in a text file, and rated flashes as "No," "Maybe," "Probably," or "DEFINITELY" in that file in regards to their potential for my top 5 for February.... and I did that in one huge final spurt from around 9 PM last night until 5 AM this morning. I rewatched many flashes I saw early in February, and I saw other flashes for the first time ever. I found some new faves like "The Bounce" and ""Shame"" and "-Obsolete-" and "Quantum Foam," among others.

After all of that, a vast majority of the flashes (which I rated 7/10, 8/10, 9/10, or 10/10... nothing fell below 7 IMO) were rated as No or Maybe. There were around 15 Probablys and 5 Definitelys. I spent some time going over all of those flashes and I ended up swapping out a probably with a definitely at one point after much consideration. The manner in which I chose what merited and didn't merit a spot on my top 5 isn't very easy to describe... As I said in the above post, if two movies were both equally good in my estimation... but one had already been rewarded and acknowledged with a daily #1... and the other one got only a #3, 4, or 5... I would lean towards helping out the underdog in that case. Also, if I'd already voted for something by the same author, I wouldn't put another thing by that author in my top 5 unless it was REALLY necessary (for instance, I loved Cosby Fun Game, but Destination Mouth was a LOCK, so I wouldn't put both on my list). And... well, I thought about how others' might vote, and what movies would get enough votes and which wouldn't, but in the end I decided based on what I personally wanted to reward and which movies I enjoyed the most and for different reasons. Thus, my top 5 reflects the variety of things I enjoy about the NG flash portal and have for years. Comedy... Action... Gameplay... Cuteness... Violence... and everything in between. I kinda neglected drama, but perhaps I'll make up for that next month (though Orbox, a game, and 3 3ast 3 3urious, a comedic movie trailer parody... are likely to be 2 of my 5 votes as of right now).

In the end, after 12+ hours of watching, considering, thinking, rating, and debating within the past few days... I have ended up with my current listing.

Listing explanation: #1 is #1 because while I'm not a huge comic book fan, it is a great flash, and it was the more deserving of the two flashes by that author. #2 is #2 because there wasn't enough insanely silly comedic flashes in February, alas. There was no new BEEBO episode, unfortunately... there was no new Marc M flash... there were no new ZekeySpaceyLizard flashes (well, solo flashes that won an award or got frontpage, that is... I strongly considered the "5 Shades of Red" collab, though. It was a Probably)... IOW, my top 3 fun authors on NG didn't have award-winning flashes up for consideration. So I went with a Lokken flash, and there were three to choose from. The one I chose (and its sequel) I had seen the days they were uploaded, and loved them both. I had to go with it, even though it probably won't receive enough votes to be rewarded. ;_; #3 is #3 because it's a perfect cross between the Madness series and insanely cute white fluffy bunnies. Pure Genius. And well deserving of a reward that it will probably receive once this voting is complete. #4 is #4 because I just discovered it yesterday (or early this morning), and it is a simple and pure flash game... that everyone from the age of 2 to 102 could enjoy. I mean, steering a giraffe back and forth as it bounces up to the moon and collects stars along the way? Awesomeness. And a perfect comparison/contrast to Bunnykill, as well. And finally, #5 is #5 because it's the best Mausland game I've played since Squirrel Smash.

So, three movies... and two games. Bingo bango bongo. I think, now that it's the final evening of the vote, that posting our votes is no longer (if it ever was) much of an issue, since no one is likely to be very swayed unless they're trying to cast their votes at the last possible minute, and that would be... well, a huge mistake. What if the server seizes up? #;-}> Anyway, thanks to all the authors for submitting such great stuff throughout the month. I wanted to include some other flashes (such as Stick Slayer VIII by the great creator of the PEE MAN quadrilogy... or the aforementioned 5 Shades of Red collab... or Over Under Sideways Down... or Faust Ep 2... or... etc. etc. etc.), but such is the pain of a top 5 culled from 150. Good luck to the 20 or so games and movies I wanted to squeeze into my top 5 but couldn't. And to all others, as well. Here's my screenie:

Top Five February Voting!


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