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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:26:10 Reply

I saw this in my newsfeed.

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:27:19 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:26 PM, GoodFang wrote: I saw this in my newsfeed.

thats a good idea.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:28:20 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:26 PM, GoodFang wrote: I saw this in my newsfeed.

I'm down with lying to kids.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:29:23 Reply

I've said it before and I'll say it again; NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM DC.

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:30:39 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:23 PM, Zullzee wrote: I just hope this doesn't start some sort of TSA type bullshit security in movie theaters now. I'm sure the officials are salivating at that possibility now that they had tragedy happen to play off of people's fears and emotions.

is have extra secruity a bad thing?

or is because then that would come out of taxpayers money.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:32:45 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:30 PM, MrPercie wrote: is have extra secruity a bad thing?

or is because then that would come out of taxpayers money.

Both, unless it's payed for by the theater, which would just drive up prices of admission.

Security guards are fucking incompetent. The competent ones are like the Gestapo, no hyperbole, at all, 100% literal. We'll end up paying more, for shit security, or paying more, for too fucking good of security that will kick you out over anything


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:33:45 Reply

At 7/20/12 05:58 PM, MrPercie wrote:

r. If all guns were banned and all black market guns were the main goal for goverment to stop then mass murders wouldnt be as bad

There is a way to have killed everyone in that theater with nothing more than poison ivy, a lighter, and brown paper bag.

People fixate on weapons, but the point is not "can man mass murder." Yes. Always has, always will. No law will ever change that.

Our problem is with the value we put on the lives of others. We get the things we need from corporations, not people, so the idea of killing a theatre full of people doesn't have a lot of repercussions to a guy who hasn't benefited much from their existence up to this point.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:41:57 Reply

At 7/20/12 05:41 PM, froggerfreak wrote: The gun laws here are a fucking joke and you're a fucking gun nut. It's incredibly easy to get a gun in the USA compared to a place like the UK and a lot of other developed countries.

I think that has to do with the UK, being, you know, an island, and us being pretty much the same size as Europe combined. But go ahead, keep comparing the two.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence#Homicide

"Levels of gun violence are low in Singapore, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and many other countries."

Yet, somehow, here we are, with places like the UK having a higher violent crime rate. When you restrict our access to guns, all it means is that I have to stab you now, or hit you with a bat.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:44:43 Reply

Legitimately logged on here to see if it was someone from Newgrounds who shot up the place.

was it?

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:47:03 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:44 PM, Markface wrote: Legitimately logged on here to see if it was someone from Newgrounds who shot up the place.

was it?

no some college kid

go Figure!

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:48:18 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:44 PM, Markface wrote: Legitimately logged on here to see if it was someone from Newgrounds who shot up the place.

was it?

No but NATA (a user since '05) was at the scene of the crime. He escaped with nothing but a graze in his arm from either a bullet or shrapnel. On the first or second page (I forget) he posted the minor cut and his actual purchased ticket to the movie. It's a awful, tragic event and hope everybody there can push past the terrible incident.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 18:59:41 Reply

I just can't wait to see what kind of shit the Brady campaign is going to say about this.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 19:06:00 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:27 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
At 7/20/12 06:26 PM, GoodFang wrote: I saw this in my newsfeed.
thats a good idea.

Don't you think showing up in the hospital room dressed up as an intimdating, horned figure in an all-black costume would be a bad idea?

At least put the yellow Batsymbol on.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 19:07:09 Reply

never mind the Brady campaign is already over this shit with ant-firearm rhetoric.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 19:08:43 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:14 PM, VGmasters wrote: Here we go again...

To be expected... Unfortunate and sad circumstances such as these are going to have some predictable results as well. Even in this thread, those that would make light of the situation, or those that say "well I would have..." ...shut up. You would have heard gunfire been like "what the fuck is going on" and got down and looked to escape like most people.

Then of course there are the ones looking for the scapegoat or someone to blame or would use this incident as an example for their platform against something they oppose anyway. Violent video games etc.....uh....what movie was this at? Oh, the same one with a world in which villians create panic and chaos violently in the first place. It's easy for people to try and make some type of connection or correlation...and as such....they do. Sadly, I don't even think it's their opinions that make them as guilty.

This is the same story, no matter where we hear it from and that's not to say it shouldn't be shown. It's tragic and people need to know, should know. But media or even some people want those ratings or attention and whoever can provide that different bit of insight or appeal that will have more people turn attention their way is what most people do. I'm sure there have been many to make a connection between the movie, video games, troubled past etc...and whoever has some merit or credible thing to show...the media will shine some light on it. Most likely not even for relevance or concern, but because they want people to pay attention to their presentation of the incidents.

And those in that spotlight will take advantage to make their point using the incident as their main platform and trying to make even connections where there are none to prove a point. Media will most likely exploit all angles of the story to get more people listening, watching, interested, scared etc. Interviews from the next door neighbor's babysitter who once walked their dog and saw the suspect yelling one time.... People's opinion's who are "experts" in some field talking about an isolated incident. Or similar stories that are actually irrelevant except that their in the ballpark of the events and now give people more to look into.

Basic summary: exploitation all around. The world we live in. Sad


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 19:13:55 Reply

Does anybody here watch Dexter? The show with the main character who is a serial killer that hunts other serial killers?

I think the writers are going to have a field day with this situation.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 19:15:33 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:09 AM, NATA wrote: sorry for the quality, but it's the scratch I got either from shrapnel or a bullet

I'm glad you are ok my prayers go out to the victims

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:05:41 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:08 AM, NATA wrote: ticket stub

Congratulations, your ticket stub has been featured on CNN. You most likely stole it, though.

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:09:36 Reply

At 7/20/12 05:53 PM, RightWingGamer wrote:
At 7/20/12 05:47 PM, Fluttershy wrote: pony anypony
Please cut it out, this is neither the time nor place.

Tony is a fucking gun nut, what did you expect him to do, actually give remorse?
And "I hope someone shoots up the NRA headquarters" is what you would call remorse?

Tony is like Mark Wahlberg, and you are the Westboro Baptist Church. One of them meant well, but said something stupid, and the other one is just acting like a jerk for the sake of being a jerk.

That is by far the dumbest comparison I've ever read. Please, stop posting.

My condolences to everyone who has friends/family who attended the massacre. I'm deeply saddened by events like this, but there's always a method to madness. There HAS to be a reason he did this.

My god, this is why I hate some Newgrounders. This is no time to be using a massacre like this to advocate your own political Ideologies.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:11:25 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:28 PM, MiloBased wrote:
At 7/20/12 06:26 PM, GoodFang wrote: I saw this in my newsfeed.
I'm down with lying to kids.

I don't know. I think that's a great idea! The kids can look at Batman and say, "Batman, why didn't you save us?"

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:19:10 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:41 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 7/20/12 05:41 PM, froggerfreak wrote: The gun laws here are a fucking joke and you're a fucking gun nut. It's incredibly easy to get a gun in the USA compared to a place like the UK and a lot of other developed countries.
I think that has to do with the UK, being, you know, an island, and us being pretty much the same size as Europe combined. But go ahead, keep comparing the two.

Does the size of the country matter if I'm only trying to compare the gun laws? Also, I was only using UK as an example. You might be thinking "All the countries with low gun violence in the Wikipedia example are all islands." Odd, but that is besides the point. Other countries like Poland are a mainland developed country that also have low gun violence.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence#Homicide

"Levels of gun violence are low in Singapore, Japan, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and many other countries."
Yet, somehow, here we are, with places like the UK having a higher violent crime rate. When you restrict our access to guns, all it means is that I have to stab you now, or hit you with a bat.

It sure would of been easy to kill 22 people with a bat. I'd much rather have people running around with knifes and other weapons like that instead of a goddamn shot gun.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:27:50 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:19 PM, froggerfreak wrote: Does the size of the country matter if I'm only trying to compare the gun laws? Also, I was only using UK as an example. You might be thinking "All the countries with low gun violence in the Wikipedia example are all islands." Odd, but that is besides the point. Other countries like Poland are a mainland developed country that also have low gun violence.

When you're bringing up the ease of getting one, yes, it does matter, considering it would be a lot harder to effectively curb in the inevitably black market explosion that would happen from a lack of being able to legally acquire a gun. Poland? It's the size of New Mexico. I can easily bring up places like Norway that are more relaxed yet still have low crime rates. You know why I don't? Because it is really fucking retarded to try to compare completely different countries.

It sure would of been easy to kill 22 people with a bat. I'd much rather have people running around with knifes and other weapons like that instead of a goddamn shot gun.

He could have went for the much easier method of just barring the doors, laying some gas, and igniting a match.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:30:45 Reply

I'm becoming more worried about the bomb than the shooting, just because the hospital is supposedly next door. This man clearly planned ahead.

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:32:06 Reply

At 7/20/12 06:28 PM, MiloBased wrote:
At 7/20/12 06:26 PM, GoodFang wrote: I saw this in my newsfeed.
I'm down with lying to kids.

At a young enough age, they could really really use the boost in morality and will that batman would bring


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:38:29 Reply

In other news video games are to blame for this violent shooting and citizens of Colorado are considering softening gun laws to counter future attacks like this

'you know, you know, if just one person was open carrying a glock in that cinema, maybe, this wouldn't have happened, you know? One shot in the stomach and the guy would have been dead for sure'

in before bleeding heart liberals try to tell me that the guy was wearing body armour and that he was spraying wildly whereas a person with a gun would have been inaccurate at shooting or too afraid to shoot

those are both myths

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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:38:58 Reply

people were killed.....recently.... So instead people argue as to why the constitution is wrong rather than discussing the killer or the victims... nice

But anyway i wouldn't be surprised if some bullshit law was passed now and of course it will be ineffective so then people will say OH gun control was ineffective obviously we need more as always and as laws are passed people will continue to be murdered with all types of weapons and the real problem will be continually ignored.

Mental illness needs to be dealt with. You need to stop mentally ill people from killing people all together, not try and prevent the sale of firearms. People have been killed with bombs as well. Ex: Oklahoma city bombing....

Of course many people cannot just make bombs but you can really find out how to do it online.

Anyways My point is that if this guy didn't have guns he could have used a homemade bomb....

The problem isn't a fucking object, it's the person. Same shit as blaming games or movies just about.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:43:30 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:38 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: Of course many people cannot just make bombs but you can really find out how to do it online.

I know how to make 12 different bombs, and I don't give a fuck if the c.i.a. reads this or not

You know why?

I'm not a psychopathic murderer, I just like explosions


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:46:31 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:43 PM, Xenomit wrote:
At 7/20/12 08:38 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: Of course many people cannot just make bombs but you can really find out how to do it online.
I know how to make 12 different bombs, and I don't give a fuck if the c.i.a. reads this or not

You know why?

I'm not a psychopathic murderer, I just like explosions

Well i could literally go on youtube and find out but i'm not going to. There are homemade firearm instructions all over too. It's not hard to make something that just explodes if you can get the materials...which you normally can.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:52:31 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:27 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 7/20/12 08:19 PM, froggerfreak wrote: Does the size of the country matter if I'm only trying to compare the gun laws? Also, I was only using UK as an example. You might be thinking "All the countries with low gun violence in the Wikipedia example are all islands." Odd, but that is besides the point. Other countries like Poland are a mainland developed country that also have low gun violence.
When you're bringing up the ease of getting one, yes, it does matter, considering it would be a lot harder to effectively curb in the inevitably black market explosion that would happen from a lack of being able to legally acquire a gun. Poland? It's the size of New Mexico. I can easily bring up places like Norway that are more relaxed yet still have low crime rates. You know why I don't? Because it is really fucking retarded to try to compare completely different countries.

I'll agree with you there, being an island certainly does allow you to control guns more easily. And yes, geography wise it's very easy to get a gun in the USA. However, purely looking at gun control from a law point of view the USA is loose.

Another thing I'll bring up is the states. Not necessarily on a one to one basis, but states with looser gun control have more gun violence.


It sure would of been easy to kill 22 people with a bat. I'd much rather have people running around with knifes and other weapons like that instead of a goddamn shot gun.
He could have went for the much easier method of just barring the doors, laying some gas, and igniting a match.

I'm confused here. Please explain to me exactly how you would go about doing this? This is a lot more complicated than I think you think it is. And I know it's certainly a lot harder than using a gun.

Let's see: I have to lay down explosive gas I got from god knows where in a crowded movie theater without anyone noticing, then I have to bar all the multiple exits out of the theater, then I have to make sure that the fire sprinkles are broken, then.. You get my point? Unless you can give me something that's more stupid approved than guns I'm not buying it.


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Response to mass shooting at DKR screening 2012-07-20 20:55:44 Reply

At 7/20/12 08:38 PM, Halberd wrote: In other news video games are to blame for this violent shooting and citizens of Colorado are considering softening gun laws to counter future attacks like this

good softening gun laws.

'you know, you know, if just one person was open carrying a glock in that cinema, maybe, this wouldn't have happened, you know? One shot in the stomach and the guy would have been dead for sure'

maybe two or three shot depending on the caliber or type of body armor

in before bleeding heart liberals try to tell me that the guy was wearing body armour and that he was spraying wildly whereas a person with a gun would have been inaccurate at shooting or too afraid to shoot

don't listen to them anyways like they know anything about firearms much less which way the bullet goes in or out.


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