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Ngadm 2011: Round 1

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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 00:58:05


At 8/18/11 11:33 PM, LaForge wrote:
I would have finished if certain family matters hadn't presented themselves. I'm just bitching because a few other members of the adm complained and I thought I'd voice their frustration.

Family matters. In the two weeks we had to write our songs my aunt died. We had a funeral service and a house event for my cousin Andrew who no longer has a mom or a dad and has to live with his grandma. I ferried over from new york to connecticut to visit my gf for a few days. While I was home I worked my ass off landscaping and baby sitting while trying to get my college paper work in order because despite thinking I was done with school my college thinks I owe them one elective credit. Funny story, I finished my song in about the first two to three days and am already prepared for the next leg of the comp with another song and a few WIPs I'm incredibly happy with.

Now, I'm sorry to hear about your abusive step dad but you still had time to work on a song. Two weeks is an ungodly amount of time to make a song if you know what you're doing. Even if you didn't manage to make something you were happy with two weeks was plenty of time to come up with a plethora of WIPs you could have worked off of. My rule of thumb, if I work on a project and I'm not happy with it after the first few hours, I delete the project file and start a new one. That keeps things rolling forward. Sometimes I delete everything in the sequencer of an old track I was really happy with and play with the already existing sextastic instruments/ synth patches. Sometimes I force myself to work with genres I'm not personally a fan of. There are so many tactics and techniques for writing music and staving writer's block that at the end of the day the only excuse you have for not having anything is that you just didn't like what you were working on. On a really bad day, I can start three to four new songs and not be happy with any of them. But at that rate of production I'd have 21 to 28 tracks by the end of a week and at least one of them would show some sort of potential enough to finish a week later. As said by steph, you were given a massive warning about the two week time limit. This might sting a little but it's no one's fault except your own that you couldn't produce a track you were happy with in the given time. Also, this is just a friendly little meaningless competition. Relax sir :/

This is a somewhat detached idea from all that rubbish but perhaps it's time to introduce the newgrounds audio forum to the idea of hour long competitions. I remember hearing that the guys over at DNB Arena/ Lifted used to have those every now and then for shits and giggles. Basically you have an hour to make a track to the best of your ability. A day/time is agreed upon in advance. Scouts honor that it's a new project file and everyone wins experience points.


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 00:58:13


Can I use samples that have no license? I'm not talking royalty free. What I mean is, if you were to record yourself taking a massive shit, the shit would fall under the same category as these samples I mentioned before. Acceptable or no?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 01:21:05


At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, dj-Nate wrote: Can I use samples that have no license? I'm not talking royalty free. What I mean is, if you were to record yourself taking a massive shit, the shit would fall under the same category as these samples I mentioned before. Acceptable or no?

uhhhh... sir... your sig gives off the impression that you should know the answer to that question already :p


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 01:21:35


At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, dj-Nate wrote: Can I use samples that have no license? I'm not talking royalty free. What I mean is, if you were to record yourself taking a massive shit, the shit would fall under the same category as these samples I mentioned before. Acceptable or no?

Please do not record yourself taking a massive shit.

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 01:22:59


At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, dj-Nate wrote: Can I use samples that have no license? I'm not talking royalty free. What I mean is, if you were to record yourself taking a massive shit, the shit would fall under the same category as these samples I mentioned before. Acceptable or no?

Yes acceptable. Lol, did this really need asking.


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 01:27:55


At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, Quarl wrote: Now, I'm sorry to hear about your abusive step dad but you still had time to work on a song. Two weeks is an ungodly amount of time to make a song if you know what you're doing.

Having an abusive step-dad isn't the same as having an event to attend, or a job/chore. You can't just work around having a piece of shit person in your house ruining everyones lives...

2 cents

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:21:06


At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, dj-Nate wrote: Can I use samples that have no license? I'm not talking royalty free. What I mean is, if you were to record yourself taking a massive shit, the shit would fall under the same category as these samples I mentioned before. Acceptable or no?

Yeah, of course :P.

At 8/19/11 01:45 AM, AndyLau wrote: Moar very good points.

As much as I understand that some people may need more time, the extra time simple isn't needed. Remember that you don't have to make a song that fits your usual standard of length or quality. So far I've reviewed about 20 of the 27 songs, and in only one of the reviews my complaint of the song being too short actually affected my rating, and even then not by much. I found loads of songs which I thought were a tad too short, but I took the 2 week deadline into consideration and didn't let that issue I had with the song negatively affect the score by a lot.

My point is, you don't have to make the song your best song ever. If you find the 2-week limit really restricting, then don't keep trying so hard. Skip a few small mixing issues, end the song a little early, I don't know. Even then, as Quarl said, 2 weeks is plenty of time to think of some good ideas. If 2 weeks still isn't enough, then the competition isn't for you. Perhaps having a deadline like that might even help the people who take longer to finish their music to learn how to manage their music-production more efficiently.

You, along with the other 26 competitors, still managed to make a great song in those 2 weeks, so it's possible, even though it may be hard for some people. If you didn't make it because of family issues or another reason, then that's tough luck. We're not going to lengthen the deadline for the sole reason that family issues may crop up.

Lastly, having a deadline is part of the challenge of the competition. This isn't a question of: "is 2 weeks enough for everyone to finish?" because 2 weeks is a deadline and deadlines are one of the things which make a competition challenging and intense.

I hope you see my point, and also I'd like to ask anyone who wants to argue with what I've said above to continue it in a PM, if possible.


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:27:10


At 8/19/11 08:21 AM, Supersteph54 wrote: I hope you see my point, and also I'd like to ask anyone who wants to argue with what I've said above to continue it in a PM, if possible.

I'd like to argue! Ooh ooh! Pick me! Pick me!

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:36:58


At 8/19/11 08:27 AM, Echo wrote: I'd like to argue! Ooh ooh! Pick me! Pick me!

Then you're disqualified... yeah.

Anyone else want to argue? :3


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:50:33


At 8/19/11 08:36 AM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 8/19/11 08:27 AM, Echo wrote: I'd like to argue! Ooh ooh! Pick me! Pick me!
Then you're disqualified... yeah.

Anyone else want to argue? :3

Well fine! If I'm disqualified then you're disqualified too! So there!

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:52:47


At 8/19/11 08:50 AM, Echo wrote: Well fine! If I'm disqualified then you're disqualified too! So there!

Alright we're both disqualified.

...Now what?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:53:39


At 8/19/11 08:52 AM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 8/19/11 08:50 AM, Echo wrote: Well fine! If I'm disqualified then you're disqualified too! So there!
Alright we're both disqualified.

...Now what?

Now we...

we...

...

Well crap >.<

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:54:14


At 8/19/11 08:53 AM, Echo wrote: Well crap >.<

Friends?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:54:48


At 8/19/11 08:54 AM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 8/19/11 08:53 AM, Echo wrote: Well crap >.<
Friends?

Yay!!!!!

You're still disqualified :P

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 08:55:35


At 8/19/11 01:45 AM, AndyLau wrote:
At 8/19/11 12:58 AM, Quarl wrote: Some very good points.
But not everyone is the same right. I can hardly come up with a song idea worthy of putting to DAW within a week. You'd have to take into account that peoples' abilities and work speed vary.

You're being judged based on your ability to make a great song in two weeks. If you suck at that, too bad, you lose.

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:09:55


I built my song in a cave.... with a box of scraps. Bonus points?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:15:27


I drew my entire song as a waveform, sample by sample in audacity. Bonus points?

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:21:59


I didn't make a song. Bonus points?

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:22:14


I can play a suckish version of the Harry Potter theme on the kazoo and yet end up in the Top 5. Bonus points?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:30:22


7 bonus points, free with every hyphen purchase, SO GET YOURS, TODAY!


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:41:12


Am I too late?

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:43:25


At 8/19/11 10:41 AM, Marfles wrote: Am I too late?

For an audiotion: Yes.
For an entry: Yes.
For me laughing at you because you're too late for everything: Right on time.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 10:49:11


awh mann.
Oh well.

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 11:28:59


At 8/19/11 10:15 AM, SBB wrote: I drew my entire song as a waveform, sample by sample in audacity. Bonus points?

I made my song by rearranging enough rocks until I was able to build my own universe. True story.


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 16:54:47


At 8/19/11 10:30 AM, Supersteph54 wrote: 7 bonus points, free with every hyphen purchase, SO GET YOURS, TODAY!

Would I get more points if I used a hyphen in a song?


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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 18:16:03


At 8/19/11 04:54 PM, Tzunami wrote:
At 8/19/11 10:30 AM, Supersteph54 wrote: 7 bonus points, free with every hyphen purchase, SO GET YOURS, TODAY!
Would I get more points if I used a hyphen in a song?

It's only if you use a hyphen in your username

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 18:24:42


At 8/19/11 08:21 AM, Supersteph54 & Echo wrote:

even maor good points

Yeah I know... lol You're right it did motivate to get up off my fat arse and start composing again didn't it.

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-19 23:13:49


At 8/19/11 06:16 PM, brokendeck wrote: It's only if you use a hyphen in your username

How about a song done in Morse code.

If that fails I can just change my name to Tzu-nami

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Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-20 00:07:53


It's officially the 20TH! WHO IS IN AND WHO IS OUT?!?!?!?!?!?!

Response to Ngadm 2011: Round 1 2011-08-20 02:56:27


At 8/20/11 12:07 AM, MusicMasterX wrote: It's officially the 20TH! WHO IS IN AND WHO IS OUT?!?!?!?!?!?!

Try and read the deadline. It's 20th August 1 PM EST. Meaning NG Time, which is currently 2:56 AM. Still some time left ;)