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At 2/7/10 05:41 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote: The only real thing that I share with them is I'm anti semitic (from my own experiences, though not just because Hitler decided they were inferior)...

So you don't like Seinfeld?
Or Curb!?

Jeeeeesus.

At 2/7/10 06:25 PM, LaggingOut wrote: By the way...does anyone know the band ''The Axis of Perdition'' Because I would like to know what you guyz think about it.

They're alright.
Though I only listened to them for a few minutes, but I saved them a playlist on Spotity that I do intend to listen to. But because of this the sounds I'm getting in my head whilst trying to think about them is actually those of Christoph de Babylon.

At 2/7/10 07:04 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: They are good, of course but place aside some great bands like Blood Red Throne, Panzerchrist and Benighted, they don't look that impressive.

My only knowledge of Behemoth was this video of 'Behemoth vs Lady Gaga' that a friend linked me to yesterday. And based on that I fucking hate Behemoth. It was shite. And I am letting my judgement of them be influenced by the shittiness of what the video maker tried to do, which to me screams of 'OH LOOK GUIZ ITS LADY GAGA WHOS POP LOL AND BEHEMOTH WHO R BLACK METUL LOL HOW KOOKY!!!'.

Also I like Lady Gaga and it wasn't nice on my ears hearing her catchy Pop being mixed with what sounded like a terrible band.
At 2/7/10 07:06 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Amon Amarth 100/100
Insomnium 99/100

Those are some high scores. I must check these outs properly as it seems like I'm missing out on the absolutely pinnacle of music!

Also, Imogen Heap tonight was fantastic. If she was 10 years younger and in my pants, I'd be a happy man.

Or if she was just in my pants.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 19:52:50 Reply

At 2/7/10 07:50 PM, Nev wrote:
Also, Imogen Heap tonight was fantastic. If she was 10 years younger and in my pants, I'd be a happy man.

So you really are not gay?

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At 2/7/10 07:52 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: So you really are not gay?

I'm incredibly ungay.


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At 2/7/10 05:47 PM, AniMetal wrote: Behemoth and Suffocation are both great bands(Behemoth is supposedly, but i've never listened to them)

LISTEN TO BEHEMOTH!!!! I suggest Evangelion, Demigod, and The Apostasy. Three of my favorite albums of the 21st century. If you like death metal. Or black metal. Or blackened death metal, you will love Behemoth.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 20:36:58 Reply

At 2/7/10 12:37 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 2/6/10 12:51 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:
At 2/6/10 03:28 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 2/6/10 12:16 AM, Lost-Thought wrote:
Wow!
Your band sounds great!
I think all the guys from the Hell should check it out.

thanks man :D

Still you guys pretty much mix elements of different genres. Death, Heavy and you sound somewhat doomish to me.
Nice stuff :)

What instrument do you play?

I play guitar

Also, Extreme Metal doesn't exist.

I use it as sort of a broad term for the heavier genres of metal


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 21:01:23 Reply

At 2/7/10 08:20 PM, Zodir wrote:
At 2/7/10 05:47 PM, AniMetal wrote: Behemoth and Suffocation are both great bands(Behemoth is supposedly, but i've never listened to them)
LISTEN TO BEHEMOTH!!!! I suggest Evangelion, Demigod, and The Apostasy. Three of my favorite albums of the 21st century. If you like death metal. Or black metal. Or blackened death metal, you will love Behemoth.

I have to agree by far. I've listened to some of their songs, and they were brutal!
Anyway, has anyone heard if Dying Fetus or Vomit Remnants (if any of you've heard of them before) are recording or touring?


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At 2/7/10 06:05 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But if you are not of those conservative elitist pricks, than just ignore my post :P

I'm not a conservative by any means. I just can't stand the ideals of communism. I feel that it makes status quo universally acceptable. A person should strive for excellence. I feel that man should be encouraged to do whats best for himself and not whats best for they guy down the street. My ideal society is one where everyone has the means to achieve their best and strive for it. I realize that's a fairy tale but meh.

Communism isn't for social equality. Not anymore. Not since Lenin. And even then there was an elite class. In most cases the working class suffered in squalor slaving away every day while the political elite sat cozy in their palaces ordering towns razed for collectivization.

And as for justice, with the secret police and the cults of personality how can there be justice? With all the ethical debacles and paranoia some people have estimated the death toll under Stalin to be as high as 50 million. Any dissent under them (Stalin, Mao and others) was repressed harshly. The killing fields in Cambodia, mass starvation during the Great Leap in China, executions of victims of the Great Purge, deporting minorities, ethnic cleansing, mass starvations(some of which are rumored to be arranged by the people's own government) in the USSR. How is that just?

I can't see humanity surviving like that. We evolve. Status quo will make us as people stagnate.

But that's just my point of view. If the communism you're referring to is different than the ones I am then perhaps those points don't apply.

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 21:29:42 Reply

At 2/7/10 09:01 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: I have to agree by far. I've listened to some of their songs, and they were brutal!
Anyway, has anyone heard if Dying Fetus or Vomit Remnants (if any of you've heard of them before) are recording or touring?

If you'd like to join, post your ten favorite metal bands or leave.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 22:30:18 Reply

At 2/7/10 09:29 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: If you'd like to join, post your ten favorite metal bands or leave.

Okay. Sorry I didn't see your reply to me before. Anyway, here are my ten favorite metal bands in no particular order:
-Dethklok
-Lamb of God
-Vomit Remnants
-Suicide Silence
-Arch Enemy
-Byzantine
-Cradle of Filth
-Children of Bodom (I know not all of you guys like it)
-Shadows Fall
-All That Remains


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 22:32:46 Reply

At 2/7/10 07:50 PM, Nev wrote:

At 2/7/10 07:06 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: Amon Amarth 100/100
Insomnium 99/100
Those are some high scores. I must check these outs properly as it seems like I'm missing out on the absolutely pinnacle of music!

That was out of how much I like them, not how good or skilled they are.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-07 22:54:01 Reply

The only Behemoth song I heard was Conquer All.

The riff was stolen from Anthrax's Be All, End All (hell, even the title is similar) and it soon became unbearable.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 00:46:51 Reply

At 2/7/10 09:20 PM, AllMightyBruce wrote:
At 2/7/10 06:05 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: But if you are not of those conservative elitist pricks, than just ignore my post :P
I'm not a conservative by any means. I just can't stand the ideals of communism. I feel that it makes status quo universally acceptable. A person should strive for excellence. I feel that man should be encouraged to do whats best for himself and not whats best for they guy down the street. My ideal society is one where everyone has the means to achieve their best and strive for it. I realize that's a fairy tale but meh.

Excellence? Yes, competition everyday all day? No. Competition is good but to a certain extent. So people are just not made for competition. Also, when you have very competitive sector of work or domains (can't say what's the correct concept) you tend to make yourself a very specific idea of what your perfect employe would be, but then you forget about other positive aspect of a personnality and what another kind of employee would bring to your enteprise. Also, capitalism as pushed the word towards individualism and "excellence" as you call it is a kind of selfishness. If you only try to get better and better all the time, you can't work with anybody else or consider anyone to be a real friend, because they could all become rivals. Individualism is created by the very competitive society we have. After a while of living like that, a normal human being will start to get depressed because even if he has a family and friends, he feels alone (I don't want to explain the whole thing because it's very complexe, but it's a fact that can be observed). Depression, suicide are like vultures flying over a human being living in a capitalist society. Not that competition is bad, but a company will always try to make even more profit, until the normal human being cannot take it anymore. Than drugs come in. We have to make gods out of humans, someone who can work faster, for longer periods of time and work better, sleep less to have more time to work. This is exactly the problem that Japan has right now. They call it Karoshi.

Everyone has to do their best, yes. But what if someone's best is not as good as yours? He will never be able to have a work, even if he his trying. Let's take the example of someone who has a mental deficiency (is this correct? :P). What can he do? He will never be able to work as fast and do efficient work like you do. What should we do with them? Hitler would say kill them. I would say, make them do some easier work and help them do something with their life.


Communism isn't for social equality. Not anymore. Not since Lenin. And even then there was an elite class. In most cases the working class suffered in squalor slaving away every day while the political elite sat cozy in their palaces ordering towns razed for collectivization.

You shouldn't confuse the ideology and tha man. Lenin isn't communism, Stalin isn't communism, they are just men, doing whatever they when in the name of an ideology.
I am not myself a communist, I think the system just couldn't work.


And as for justice, with the secret police and the cults of personality how can there be justice? With all the ethical debacles and paranoia some people have estimated the death toll under Stalin to be as high as 50 million. Any dissent under them (Stalin, Mao and others) was repressed harshly. The killing fields in Cambodia, mass starvation during the Great Leap in China, executions of victims of the Great Purge, deporting minorities, ethnic cleansing, mass starvations(some of which are rumored to be arranged by the people's own government) in the USSR. How is that just?

Communism has never existed, cause in communism there is no government. USSR was a failure. It's not communism that failed during the Cold War, it's the USSR... and so did China...


I can't see humanity surviving like that. We evolve. Status quo will make us as people stagnate.

Why do you think that communism would mean status quo?


But that's just my point of view. If the communism you're referring to is different than the ones I am then perhaps those points don't apply.

I do not believe in communism, social democracy is my heaven :)

At 2/7/10 08:36 PM, Lost-Thought wrote:
What instrument do you play?
I play guitar

Nice, the guitars are really heavy and sludgy in your music. I think it's great. You guys should start recording some of your stuff. I'd buy it :)


Also, Extreme Metal doesn't exist.
I use it as sort of a broad term for the heavier genres of metal

I guess I should just stop shitting on the word "Extreme". I guess what you say makes a lot of sense :P

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 01:35:00 Reply

At 2/8/10 12:46 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: I do not believe in communism, social democracy is my heaven :)

So Sweden?

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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 02:09:27 Reply

At 2/8/10 12:46 AM, HeavenDuff wrote: Capitalism as pushed the word towards individualism and "excellence" as you call it is a kind of selfishness. If you only try to get better and better all the time, you can't work with anybody else or consider anyone to be a real friend, because they could all become rivals. Individualism is created by the very competitive society we have.

Amen to that, HeavenDuff! It seems that capitalism is ruining our society nowadays. Also, we have had too many corrupted employers and politicians, especially in the States. Don't get me wrong, but I believe in some aspects of individualism. However, many individualists end up becoming egotistical and, in some worst cases, avaricious. Avarice has financially killed us. Take Dick and Bush as prime examples.

After a while of living like that, a normal human being will start to get depressed because even if he has a family and friends, he feels alone (I don't want to explain the whole thing because it's very complex, but it's a fact that can be observed). Depression, suicide are like vultures flying over a human being living in a capitalist society. Not that competition is bad, but a company will always try to make even more profit, until the normal human being cannot take it anymore. Then drugs come in. We have to make gods out of humans, someone who can work faster, for longer periods of time and work better, sleep less to have more time to work. This is exactly the problem that Japan has right now. They call it Karoshi.

About drugs, I believe that drug industries take advantage of other people's beliefs, self-image, and disabilities. Because of recession, it seems that karoushi may become more common in the States.

Everyone has to do their best, yes. But what if someone's best is not as good as yours? He will never be able to have a work, even if he his trying. Let's take the example of someone who has a mental deficiency (is this correct? :P). What can he do? He will never be able to work as fast and do efficient work like you do. What should we do with them? Hitler would say kill them. I would say, make them do some easier work and help them do something with their life.

You are absolutely right! I can't agree with you more!


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At 2/7/10 11:59 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: I don't care ( for the most part ) what genre something is. If it sounds good I'll listen to it. If not, I won't. I don't care if mothballs mixed death metal and melodic death metal.

I often give a damn about genres so I know what music is what and if I want more of progressive metal for example, I'll have a better idea on which bands to look out for. If we never had all these metal subgenres, I would have a hard time finding the right bands for me to listen to. I discovered Blind Guardian when doing some research on power metal after listening to DragonForce (bear with me on this one) and Helloween and I'm very thankful for finding them that way.


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At 2/7/10 10:30 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: Anyway, here are my ten favorite metal bands in no particular order:

not entirely metal, but good enough.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 12:49:22 Reply

At 2/8/10 12:47 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
At 2/7/10 10:30 PM, AkujinRuukasu wrote: Anyway, here are my ten favorite metal bands in no particular order:
not entirely metal, but good enough.

Thank you.


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Off to see Decapitated and Kataklysm now.

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At 2/7/10 10:54 PM, greensucksbluerules wrote: The only Behemoth song I heard was Conquer All.

The riff was stolen from Anthrax's Be All, End All (hell, even the title is similar) and it soon became unbearable.

Wow, holy shit. They're exactly the same.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 15:09:52 Reply

Oh, and I got the new Heavenly album for my birthday.

Haven't listened to much of it yet, but I'm liking what I hear.

I'd also really like to know the story behind the cover art.


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Response to Metal Hell 2010-02-08 16:47:03 Reply

Just wondering, who else here hates Metal-Archives' layout? Often when I'm reading reviews on there, my eyes go funny for a few minutes after moving away from the site and it's not really pleasant when this happen. Then again, what am I expect from a site that hasn't changed their layout since...ever.

At 2/8/10 03:09 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Oh, and I got the new Heavenly album for my birthday.

Nice, I've yet to listen to Heavenly but when I'm up for listening to more power metal, they need to be one of the first bands I need to check out. I remember Ghoul praising this band a lot ages ago.


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At 2/7/10 07:06 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: So I've been listening to Insomnium all day and I'm really starting to dig their stuff. I still prefer Amon Amarth though. I think the two biggest hooks for me and metal is guitar and vocals.

I find Insomnium more awesome. If you listened to the older albums, they're a lot better. I would say I look out for guitar and drums the most.

I like Johan's vocals more, mainly because I can understand what he's saying.

The vocalist of Insomnium (Niilo) is also the bassist, therefore Insomnium only has 4 members. That's pretty impressive, being that I liked Insomnium more than all other melodic death metal bands before I knew that.

I'm glad you gave them a try though man. Try Dark Tranquillity next, they're very good as well.

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At 2/8/10 10:12 AM, Bahamut wrote:
At 2/7/10 11:59 AM, TheSporkLord wrote: I don't care ( for the most part ) what genre something is. If it sounds good I'll listen to it. If not, I won't. I don't care if mothballs mixed death metal and melodic death metal.
I often give a damn about genres so I know what music is what and if I want more of progressive metal for example, I'll have a better idea on which bands to look out for. If we never had all these metal subgenres, I would have a hard time finding the right bands for me to listen to. I discovered Blind Guardian when doing some research on power metal after listening to DragonForce (bear with me on this one) and Helloween and I'm very thankful for finding them that way.

I only use the broad genres. Like My friend Brian is a Black metal expert and I was asking him about Behemoth and Belphegor. He told me Behemoth is Blackened death metal and Belphegor is " supreme " black metal. What the hell is Supreme Metal? So I use more of the Heavy/ black/ death/ prog metal genres.


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Ya know the band 3 Inches of Blood really supprised me. They sound pretty heavy but they look like total dildos.

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At 2/8/10 06:17 PM, HeavyMetalMadman wrote: Ya know the band 3 Inches of Blood really supprised me. They sound pretty heavy but they look like total dildos.

Except for their lead singer, who is totally metal.

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I want some good prog metal bands to add to my archive of music. Any suggestions?


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At 2/8/10 06:34 PM, Zodir wrote: I want some good prog metal bands to add to my archive of music. Any suggestions?

What bands do you already listen to?


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At 2/8/10 06:44 PM, TheSporkLord wrote:
At 2/8/10 06:34 PM, Zodir wrote: I want some good prog metal bands to add to my archive of music. Any suggestions?
What bands do you already listen to?

Okay, here are some prog metal bands I listen to:
Ayreon
Agallcoh
Angra (Maybe? Not sure)
Avantasia (Maybe as well)
Dream Theater
Gojira
Fates Warning
Into Eternity (Also a maybe)
Mastodon
Opeth
Porcupine Tree (If they are metal, cause they are definately prog)
Savatage (Later Stuff)
Strapping Young Lad (Also a maybe, I've been told they're prog)
Symphony X
Voivod
Watchtower


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At 2/8/10 04:47 PM, Bahamut wrote:
At 2/8/10 03:09 PM, Centurion-Ryan wrote: Oh, and I got the new Heavenly album for my birthday.
Nice, I've yet to listen to Heavenly but when I'm up for listening to more power metal, they need to be one of the first bands I need to check out. I remember Ghoul praising this band a lot ages ago.

I liked them a lot when I was still really into power metal. Ghoul was the one who got me into them. But I haven't listened to them since I started to grow out of power metal. I only listen to the occasional Helloween, Stratovarius, or Angra now, really.

At 2/8/10 05:03 PM, TheSporkLord wrote: What the hell is Supreme Metal?

I've heard a lot of bogus terms, but that one is new to me.

At 2/8/10 06:34 PM, Zodir wrote: I want some good prog metal bands to add to my archive of music. Any suggestions?

progressive metal...

Cynic (prog/death)
Queensrÿche
Vintersorg
Psychotic Waltz
Pain of Salvation
Vanden Plas
Apokatastasia
Art Metal
Dysrhythmia
Spastic Ink
Ron Jarzombek
Blotted Science (instrumental prog/death)
Sleep Terror (ditto)
Canvas Solaris
Scale the Summit
Planet X
Behold...the Arctopus
Winds (the one from Norway)
Gonin-Ish (also prog/death)
Mattias IA Eklundh

And surely you've heard Liquid Tension Experiment, yes?


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At 2/8/10 02:09 AM, AkujinRuukasu wrote:
Amen to that, HeavenDuff! It seems that capitalism is ruining our society nowadays. Also, we have had too many corrupted employers and politicians, especially in the States. Don't get me wrong, but I believe in some aspects of individualism. However, many individualists end up becoming egotistical and, in some worst cases, avaricious. Avarice has financially killed us. Take Dick and Bush as prime examples.

Haha! Dick and Bush are very special cases lol :P
But I don't hate the United States either. I think Roosevelt was an awesome politician and man.
Problem is that human being are selfish. Offer me 10 million dollars... I'll take them for sure. What we have to do is try to avoid making individual human being that rich. The problem is not that a guy who went to university gets more money than a waitress. The problem is when a man has more than a billion dollars... alone...

About drugs, I believe that drug industries take advantage of other people's beliefs, self-image, and disabilities. Because of recession, it seems that karoushi may become more common in the States.

Japan is worst than US for this though.

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