At 11/2/07 12:10 AM, cellardoor6 wrote:
At 11/1/07 11:59 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
At 11/1/07 11:49 PM, cellardoor6 wrote:
Now, 2 years after the peace treaty was signed, North Vietnam BROKE their agreement, and invaded South Vietnam when the US was already almost completely withdrawn from the country.
lollll
And you really think that Americans didn't knew they would do it ???
LOL!
OMG HOW DARE AMERICANS EXPECT PEOPLE TO OBEY TREATIES!
Damn Americans for not expecting a UN-backed treaty to be actually be enforced!
Hahahah !!!! No they didn't expected them to respect the treaties, but they had to sign one just to pretend they really cared about South Vietnam... or else they would have came back to protect them after North Vietnam broke the treaty!!
They just didn't fucking cared because they had already lost...
Actually the US already won. Why don't you actually get acquainted with teh facts instead of repeating myths?
The myths are those stupid things you moron learn in school just to make you trust in your country !
What was the US goal of the Vietnam War? To protect South Vietnam, not to conquer North Vietnam.
Oh yeah !! They wanted to protect the world from the BIG BAD EVIL COMMUNISTS !!! and save the democrati !!! Oh yeah so why don't they go save all the other un-democratic country in the world if they care so much ? Today there is a lot of un-democratic countries in the world, and where are you super american heroes ???
What did the official peace treaty achieve? A commitment from North Vietnam to no longer show aggression to South Vietnam.
yup and also a good reason for the US to leave.
Therefore the US won the war.
no
The subsequent war that took place when the US had already won, did not involve the US.
yes, cause thats exactly what they wanted, after they saw they couldnt win, they pretended the war was over with a treaty so they could get the fuck out of there without being pointed out as traitors.
If you're going to say that the US lost the war, then if 10 years from now Germany takes over Europe... then you'd have to say the allies lost both WWI and WWII in which Germany's goal was to do just that. Nevermind that those wars both ended in allied victory, with treaties, and that what Germany would do 10 years from now would be a separate war.
No... they won the war... obviously cause the Axis all felt down... there is no fucking link between the WW2 and Vietnam war...
Oh yeah and by the way, Soviets we're already communists since 1917, but still, Americans joinned their team to fight against the EVIL NAZI !!! In that time the USA didn't thought that communists we're evil and anti-democratic ??? YEAH RIGHT !!! they just didn't had any economic reasons to fight the URSS...
but they needed to make things look cool so they wouldn't be considered as traitors who left south vietnam alone to get kicked in the ass...
And of course, unlike me, you have zero proof of any kind to validate that.
Where are your proofs ??
Treachery? it was obvious even in the mind of the Americans but they didn't give a fuck after they lost
Um actually it was expected from Americans that after they already won, as the US did, that the treaty would be upheld.
another good joke.
Americans tend to expect people to obey treaties. The UN sponsored that treaty, so therefore technically, so the UN was responsible for allowing one party of that treaty to break the criteria of it.
they didn't care as I told you before...
Get a grip on reality.
lol.... you get a grip on reality... you live in america... you guys are capitalists... you guys don't fight for anybody else than yourselves...
LOL! You're a Canadian! YOU are capitalist! You're just so fucking brainwashed by your Canadian inferiority complex that you think you can scapegoat the US for everything that your country does as well. You benefit from American capitalism, yet you want to point your finger at the US for whatever negative byproduct of capitalism exists.
I don't feel any inferiority complex... your society is based on selfishness and being careless about everybody else and the world. We benefit from your American capitalism as you benefit from our Canadian Social-democracy. And also I don't really understand why you attack me for being a Canadian... I'm ok with what I've got and I don't want to be American... fuck no ! And why do you think that I hate you for being capitalist... I never ever said that... I just mentionned you guys were capitalists...
Canada is capitalist, in fact Canada is DEPENDENT on American capitalism. And you want to point your finger at the US? Is this possibly because American-style capitalism dominates your economy?
Don't you know that North America have signed commercial treaties ??? You also depend on us... and again... we are social-democrats... not capitalist... even if our governement sucks...lol just like yours :P
You are seriously delusional.
No... we aren't capitalists...
Its not cause we have economic links with capitalists or socialists that we are like one of these. We have a very specific kind of economy.
ITS CALLED SOCIAL-DEMOCRACY !!!
Also go inform yourself about economic treaties between countries of North America