It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?

It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?
The Vietminh technically because the USA left and all that changed was like a tiny border change.
Communist North then came down and took over.
Vietnam/Communism won
According to WikiShit, the war ended when the capital of South Vietnam, Saigon fell to North Korea. I guess they won.
Then again, I know jack-shit about the Vietnam war.
At 11/1/07 02:56 PM, AbsurdRandomness wrote: It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?
technically nobody won that war
At 11/1/07 02:57 PM, Paradox wrote: Not the Americans.
seconded methinks. Never saw 'we were soldiers'?
Actually scraatch that- that film was made in hollywood therefore the americans won.
I think it was a lot like the Korean War, where the whole place was devastated and nobody won.
At 11/1/07 02:58 PM, doberman7 wrote: Nobody wins in a war, Shooting solves nothing, same with bombings, deplomacy should be used.
No, wars should be fought until people learn to speak their language properly!
"DEPLOMACY" doesn't even exist.
America withdrew eventually due to the innevitability of defeat and public protest, thus leaving the use S.Vietnam army to defend against the North, who won.
At 11/1/07 02:56 PM, AbsurdRandomness wrote: It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?
The New England Patriots won with a last second Vinatieri field goal
The Americans were left embarrassed and demoralised, I think the biggest disgrace was how the veterans have been treat since then, but we have got a whole new generation of veterans to come.
Iraq
At 11/1/07 03:04 PM, jonthomson wrote:At 11/1/07 02:56 PM, AbsurdRandomness wrote: It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?The New England Patriots won with a last second Vinatieri field goal
TOPES LOSE
topes lose...
topes lose......
Release your inner crazy.
At 11/1/07 03:21 PM, Lucy wrote: Who was even in it?
Indeed lol
At 11/1/07 02:58 PM, Duffi wrote: According to WikiShit, the war ended when the capital of South Vietnam, Saigon fell to North Korea. I guess they won.
Then again, I know jack-shit about the Vietnam war.
I could tell when you said South VIETNAM fell to North KOREA.
Actually technically it was never a war, just a conflict. We never declared war then we just left sooo no one really.
The Chinese.
original answer =)
+1 post count.
illicit makes a damn good signature.
At 11/1/07 03:28 PM, Joshiwa wrote: Actually technically it was never a war, just a conflict. We never declared war then we just left sooo no one really.
Actually, it was a war you dumbass. Just because we didn't declare it doesn't mean it wasn't a war.
At 11/1/07 03:28 PM, Joshiwa wrote: Actually technically it was never a war, just a conflict.
Yeah. Also, another major reason why America was not successful was because there was almost no public support. IIRC, the president made a bad call, and withdrew as soon as he realized that noone appreciated him for it.
...also, TL;DR.
At 11/1/07 03:34 PM, K-RadPie wrote:At 11/1/07 03:28 PM, Joshiwa wrote: Actually technically it was never a war, just a conflict. We never declared war then we just left sooo no one really.Actually, it was a war you dumbass. Just because we didn't declare it doesn't mean it wasn't a war.
Ask your history teacher kid and stfu. I really don't feel like arguing.
Even though I'm a proud American, Vietnam won.
We caused more enemy casualties, though, but we acted like bitches, and left.
At 11/1/07 03:04 PM, jonthomson wrote:At 11/1/07 02:56 PM, AbsurdRandomness wrote: It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?The New England Patriots won with a last second Gotskowski field goal
i felt HE deserves the credit more
At 11/1/07 02:57 PM, Diddy wrote: The Vietminh technically because the USA left and all that changed was like a tiny border change.
Communist North then came down and took over.
Vietnam/Communism won
Yep. We just left South Vietnam to fend for themselves and they got devoured.
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At 11/1/07 02:56 PM, AbsurdRandomness wrote: It's never been made quite clear to me. Was there a winner?
The real question is would the United States had won if it weren't for the medias? I have no answer for this so it's up to you.
"As the old saying goes...what was it again?"