At 8/11/04 10:21 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote:Oh eM Gee! You gave me an idea! I'm gonna make Kobun/Servbot sprites! Or try at least. -_-;Well good luck, I'm sure they will come out great.
The first of many. >:) No real shading since it's an up front view, and he's facing "the light". I will however make 2-D sprites and then shade properly in the future. But for now... this. :)
At 8/11/04 10:39 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Sure you can join.
Funny, i thought only Tweekit could let me join...
At 8/11/04 10:41 AM, megamanbn4re wrote:At 8/11/04 10:39 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Sure you can join.Funny, i thought only Tweekit could let me join...
No anyone, the club has an open door policy.
At 8/11/04 10:43 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote:At 8/11/04 10:41 AM, megamanbn4re wrote:No anyone, the club has an open door policy.At 8/11/04 10:39 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Sure you can join.Funny, i thought only Tweekit could let me join...
ahh, thanks. and, how exactly do I show that I'm a member. how would i do it?
At 8/11/04 10:38 AM, Servbot- wrote: The first of many. >:) No real shading since it's an up front view, and he's facing "the light". I will however make 2-D sprites and then shade properly in the future. But for now... this. :)
Looks cool =)
At 8/11/04 10:45 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Looks cool =)
I modified the first one a bit to make these. I'm having a problem though... In the MML series, the servbots have a tendency to cry when yelled at. I have the squiggly mouth done, but I can't seem to get the crying right. (The sprite is the farthest down on the right)
I think it would be easier if you made them a little bit bigger perhaps. Just an idea.
They look cool though
At 8/11/04 11:11 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: I think it would be easier if you made them a little bit bigger perhaps. Just an idea.
Yoink.
Well actually I mean make changes after making them bigger
here I tried
At 8/11/04 11:33 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Well actually I mean make changes after making them bigger
here I tried
w00t. *steals the crying servbot*
Here's a servbot looking to the right. I took the chance to shade him. Or try to.
At 8/11/04 11:49 AM, Servbot- wrote: Here's a servbot looking to the right. I took the chance to shade him. Or try to.
Nice work =D
well,i will try to ink it in now....becuse i think it will be hard to see wen i take pictures of it with a digi-cam.
At 8/11/04 06:20 AM, DocMonster wrote: NazelbikAuthor
At 8/10/04 09:42 PM, NazelbikAuthor wrote: Yeah... except it's a recolor.And you win the Captain Obvious Award! ;) Thanks for the recap, but PBX already told us that himself by saying, "I recolored every single sprite, then put my custom shades on 'em." You can find it on page 137.
Well DUH. I was just making a STATEMENT.
[Provides link to various sprite sheets]First off, make a reference to the top six moves on the Link sheet telling people you didn't make those since Kaosboy found those on the net for you (your thread, 4th post down). If you want folks to show you the respect of not ripping off your stuff, you have to do the same for others.
...Hello??? It's clear that I custom-made some of the sprites, based on the exact same sheet that your friend found. Sheesh. Where the hell did I write on that sheet "Property of NazelbikAuthor"?
:Overall, the sheets aren't too shabby. The color choices are nice. I know you prefaced your entry by saying you didn't create a lot of moves for your characters, but you should still try some action poses for all the sprites whose base sprite didn't provide one.
You're right. However, most of them are purely scratched, so I like to think that they are no "easy to do" edits.
:Right now, they're a bit too static and don't offer much visual excitement. The shading on the hair of the tall red-headed guy is excellent...
Thank you.
:...but you'll want to carry that method over to the guy with the grey hair. He wouldn't have such a strong highlight over the entire top of his hair. If that's his base color, then you should throw in a highlight to make his hair look less flat and uniform.
No... you don't understand. I MADE him that way. That's his hairstyle, what can I say.
:You've proven you can do a good job with shading so try and stay away from using black as your holding line for the larger sprites. Use darker shades of your base color on the outlines. It'll make your sprites look smoother and less amateurish. The black you've used on the tiny sprites works because you have a smaller area to make things pop so black cuts to the chase better.
Yes, I already know. I used blacklines because I wasn't convinced darker shades of color would look better.
:One last thing, on your sprites on the left, they're too out of proportion. The torsos are much too long which makes the legs look too short by comparison. If you cut out about a 3 pixel high section from the torso and arms, you should have a better proportion. Again, overall, not too shabby. With a little more work, you should be producing natural looking sprites in no time.
I know this isn't very impressing, but I can do anything on request.Never show something unless you have confidence in it. With your first post here, you tried to allude to the idea that you were a good sprite artist when you called PBX on the carpet by stating the obvious; that's not a very good first impression. Then you showed us your stuff. It's pretty good, but it seems after the somewhat cool reception you received, now you're trying to backpedal by saying, "this isn't very impressing". Why don't you show us the stuff that is impressive so you can back up your claim, "I'm a good sprite artist." Also, you're not ready to offer "I can do anything on request" just yet. You've still got some work to do on anatomy, action and outline blending. Keep practicing.
When I read this... It almost sounds like an insult, but I guess you're only trying to give a good critic. But there's something bothering me : Who are you to criticize so much?
At 8/11/04 02:12 PM, NazelbikAuthor wrote: When I read this... It almost sounds like an insult, but I guess you're only trying to give a good critic. But there's something bothering me : Who are you to criticize so much?
...
Who are you to criticize PBX, and claim yourself "a good sprite-artist"?
That pretty much sounded like you proclaiming yourself a superior artist than us.
If so, you have no reason to practice, and no reason to be here.
Everyone's skills here are considered EQUAL, do not forget that.
I have a feeling doc knows what he's talking about, so listen to his advice.
It's been pretty usefull for me, so far.
At 8/11/04 02:49 PM, TekkamanSaber wrote:
Who are you to criticize PBX, and claim yourself "a good sprite-artist"?
That pretty much sounded like you proclaiming yourself a superior artist than us.
I have a feeling doc knows what he's talking about, so listen to his advice.
It's been pretty usefull for me, so far.
Hum.. tsk... I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.
megamanbn4re, welcome to the club! If you really want to show you're a member, you can put something as simple as "Member of the Sprite Club" in your sig. It really isn't necessary. All that we ask is you be a positive contributor to this thread whether it be with questions, comments or crticisms. Thanks and, again, welcome aboard!
Ghaleonx5z
At 8/11/04 09:17 AM, Ghaleonx5z wrote: Man that was alot to read though I feel Dizzy @_@
Well, you know me - no air is too hot, no wind is too long. ;)
PeanutButterX
Thanks for changing to PeanutButterX! I was liking referring to you as "PBX". It had a cool ring to it.
At 8/11/04 09:20 AM, PeanutButterX wrote: I'm pretty embarrased at the fact that my English is perfect and I can't speak super-fast spanish being raised by a 100% Colombian family.
Believe it or not, that's more common than you'd think. Are you taking Spanish in school?
This [sprite recolor] proves I'm bored outta my mind.
I know the sprite isn't something you're dedicating your time to, but if you had put a bit of red in the outfit, it would have balanced a bit better. Other than that, it looks slick.
All the Servbot sprites you did were cute! I'm not familiar with the character, but it looks like a Lego man to me.
Nova_dragon
At 8/11/04 10:06 AM, Nova_dragon wrote: i've been busy improving my animation ... i'm still crap at making sprites ... i'm going to try and give it a go using adobe streamline
Excellent! You can only get better with practice and the right attitude. Good luck with everything! I've never heard of Streamline; what's that about?
Anti-Majin-
At 8/11/04 02:11 PM, Anti-Majin- wrote: i will try to ink it in now....becuse it will be hard to see wen i take pictures with a digi-cam.
That's a good idea. I ink the pictures I scan because when I shrink it down, the sketches tend to get too muddy and hard to decipher.
NazelbikAuthor
At 8/11/04 02:12 PM, NazelbikAuthor wrote: Well DUH. I was just making a STATEMENT.
Please don't hide behind that excuse; it's too thin. There's a difference between a statement and an implication. You offered nothing else in your statement other than a derisive note. You found no need to comment on his excellent color choices for shading or how well he animated it in a later post. This is a positive arena with varying degrees of talent. Not one of us does or has the right to look down our nose at the work of others. We offer encouragement and advice. If you don't have those things to contribute, I kindly ask you not to post here again.
(In reference to using someone else's unedited Link sprites on his sheet) It's clear that I custom-made some of the sprites, based on the exact same sheet that your friend found. Where the hell did I write on that sheet "Property of NazelbikAuthor"?
On that page where the sheet appears, you did wrote "Sprites by NazelbikAuthor-Do not steal" and permutations of that warning 4 times! That sounds like "Property of NazelbikAuthor" to me, yet not once did you give credit to whoever created those 6 Link sprites. By saying nothing, you're guilty of allowing people to assume those are your sprites. Why did you do that which you so strongly warn against?
(About not putting his original sprites in action poses) ... most of them are purely scratched, so I like to think that they are no "easy to do" edits.
But if you're as good as you say you are, they shouldn't be that difficult.
(About the grey-haired sprites hair being too flat) No... you don't understand. I MADE him that way. That's his hairstyle, what can I say.
Then you need to learn a bit more about light source, shading and hair texture. The hair, as it is now, looks like a helmet sitting on his head.
(About using black holding lines) I used blacklines because I wasn't convinced darker shades of color would look better.
That's purely a style issue. While black linework tends to make the characters 2-D and too simplistic, it's not unheard of to use. It is a bit telling of the spriter's limited abilities and I thought you'd like to be viewed better than that.
(About showing admittedly unimpressive work and being ready to claim to be able to make a sprite out of anything) It almost sounds like an insult, but I guess you're only trying to give a good critic.
Honestly, my only intent is to be a good critique. I always try to be thorough and honest. I'm a bit blunt at times, but I get my point across.
there's something bothering me : Who are you to criticize so much?
This year will mark 30 years I've been drawing. In 2 years, I will have worked off and on in the visual entertainment arena for a decade. To name only a few things - my latest work will be printed in "Ripperman", a comic from Chanting Monks Press; I've been the "script doctor" for the last two Jon Pay comics from BDP; I have work published in a rock 'n' roll poster book called Electric Frankenstein; I've done ad work for Tom Mandrake's comic series Creeps from Image; I'm currently a successful freelance Flash animator / writer / cartoonist and I used to teach cartooning and visual storytelling. I've got a lot of experience, I've made all the common mistakes (and have invented a few!) and I will always have something new and amazing to learn about art that I'm willing to share.
Did you customize one of the new Megaman sprites PBX showed you to make Rockman? If so, check out the shading MM has and use it as a guide for your own shading. It looks like RM would have a green palette, so wherever MM has dark blue, use dark green; light blue, light green and so on. Since the bandages on his hands and arms are white, you'll want to use a grey palette. A good rule of thumb is to use 3 to 4 tones of the same color. Your first tone will be the highlight, your second tone is the main color, the third tone is your shadow (and outline if only using 3) and the fourth tone is your outline and deep shading. Now, depending on some pieces, almost any one of those tones can be part of the outline at any given time. It really depends on what you want the final outcome to look like. Study the MM sprite sheets you've found and see how they do it. Good luck!
RockLee-: That's a good idea! Thanks for the help. I'll show you a new and improved Rock Lee soon. And i'll post a buddy of his too. His name is Gaara ^_^. I started him and im gonna try that shade idea =) Thanks!!!
DocMonster :
On that page where the sheet appears, you did wrote "Sprites by NazelbikAuthor-Do not steal" and permutations of that warning 4 times! That sounds like "Property of NazelbikAuthor" to me, yet not once did you give credit to whoever created those 6 Link sprites. By saying nothing, you're guilty of allowing people to assume those are your sprites. Why did you do that which you so strongly warn against?
On that tiny sheet, there wasn't any writing, thus making it public domain. However, I decided to maintain this public domain thing and therefore did NOT make it my property. Simple.
Yes, I like to say I'm good at spriting, it's normal. When you say you have 30 years of experience in drawing, doesn't it make you proud? At first when I saw that thread, I thought I could meet people who have the same interest in sprites (or art in general) as I do. I haven't gone throught the numerous pages yet, (forgive me, lol) but I'm sure I'm at the right place. Yeah, I'd like to join the sprite club.
Oh, and one more thing. I appreciate your point of view. : )
At 8/11/04 05:30 PM, Kaosboy85 wrote: Hey guys, I'm still at work and I see I hgave alot to catch up on with reading on the forum but I wanted to drop a note to let you all know that MMX OLB Ep.4 is FINISHED! I'm still making adjustments but for the most part it is finished!
Cool!
Post here when you submit it!
I was looking forward to that one.
Kaosboy85
At 8/11/04 05:30 PM, Kaosboy85 wrote: MMX OLB Ep.4 is FINISHED!
And the skies opened ... all eyes were transfixed to the light that poured down upon them, raining down the warmth of the sun ... in the fantastic aura of the rays that shone so brightly, a form could be seen stirring ... what is this promise of a better tomorrow? ... what is this peace that showers from the heavens? ... is it truly the saviour come again? ... come at last? ... yes ... YES! ... it's MMX OLB Ep.4!!!
I agree, maybe I should make myself the captian
Good on ya! ;)
Is the artist thing a lucrative line of work?
For me, yes, when I'm working. Usually when Sept. / Oct. rolls around, work stops dead until Jan. since most businesses are in the year-end financials mode. When Jan. finally hits, work floods in again.
I want to be a history teacher but i LOVE the whole animation thing.
No one says you can't do both. You may not be doing animation on a grand level while being a history teacher (I think that's SO cool!), but you could always do it on the side thanks to Flash! :)
Is the animation your main source of money (if thats too personal a question you don't have to answer)
That's not a personal question ... how much I make is! ;) No, it's not our main source of income. We could live comfortably off what I make, but it'd take a great deal of creative book keeping to see us through Sept. - Dec. I'm very fortunate to have a wife who is smart with money (I burn through it like crap through a goose!) and who has a great career she thoroughly loves. My paycheck augments her income. We use it as our vacation fund. We'll be hitting Florida again this year (Oct.) and next year we'll be going to London, Hong Kong and, hopefully, Scotland. I have to pay for myself and for all the swag and food I buy since she goes on the company dime. I'm also very fortunate to have the clients I have. They always pay on time and keep me nice and busy from Jan. to Sept. / Oct.. So, the basic rule in our house is: living expenses = her income; vacations, gifts & recreation = my income. It kind of makes sense since I draw funny pictures for a living. ;)
i'd be honered to have you look over the script when it is finished.
Great! Now all I've got to do is learn how to read! ;) Seriously though, I'm looking forward to it.
it looks like missed a small war!
Don't worry, it's not a war. It's simply a clarification of intentions. We're all good here.
RockLee-
At 8/11/04 06:01 PM, RockLee- wrote: Thanks for the help. I'll show you a new and improved Rock Lee and a buddy of his too, Gaara. Thanks!!!
I'm glad I could be of help. I'm looking forward to your new sprites!!!
NazelbikAuthor
At 8/11/04 06:23 PM, NazelbikAuthor wrote: On that tiny sheet, there wasn't any writing, thus making it public domain. However, I decided to maintain this public domain thing and therefore did NOT make it my property. Simple.
Understand, I'm a big proponent of fair play and giving credit where it's due. Though it may be public domain, someone else worked hard on those sprites and should be given the credit just as you should be for coming up with the bow pulling sprites. You're not saying no one can use them, but you'd be giving the nod to whoever inspired you to carry on with those sprites.
Yes, I like to say I'm good at spriting, it's normal. When you say you have 30 years of experience in drawing, doesn't it make you proud?
But it's coming across as pompous. It's great to think you're good, but you don't need to announce it. Trust me, people will let you know how good you are. ;) I'm proud of my work and experience and I'm confident in my abilities, but it really doesn't mean a thing if I'm not pleasing my audience or a paying client. If I don't land a job I'm up for, thinking I'm the best thing since sliced bread isn't gonna ... well ... buy me bread! ;)
When I saw that thread, I thought I could meet people who have the same interest in sprites (or art in general) as I do. I haven't gone throught the numerous pages yet, (forgive me, lol) but I'm sure I'm at the right place. Yeah, I'd like to join the sprite club.
I, for one, would be glad to have you! :) Keep it fun, keep it interesting and keep spriting! Welcome aboard!
I appreciate your point of view.
Thanks. I always try to see life like this ... *cocks head to one side, crosses left eye* ... things always seem more interesting this way ... *suddenly his head and eye lock into place and he remembers a far off memory when his mother told him, "Keep doing that and your face is going to stay that way!"*
I knew I was forgetting something... PBX V3 blast sprites. :O
At 8/11/04 07:37 PM, PeanutButterX wrote: I knew I was forgetting something... PBX V3 blast sprites. :O
mhh, looks cool, but you COULD cast some lighting on the character when the blasts come out.
At 8/11/04 08:08 PM, TekkamanSaber wrote:At 8/11/04 07:37 PM, PeanutButterX wrote: I knew I was forgetting something... PBX V3 blast sprites. :Omhh, looks cool, but you COULD cast some lighting on the character when the blasts come out.
There's some lighting, but it's only on the buster when he shoots. It's not the type of blast that will give you a seizure. :P
At 8/11/04 08:14 PM, PeanutButterX wrote:At 8/11/04 08:08 PM, TekkamanSaber wrote:There's some lighting, but it's only on the buster when he shoots. It's not the type of blast that will give you a seizure. :PAt 8/11/04 07:37 PM, PeanutButterX wrote: I knew I was forgetting something... PBX V3 blast sprites. :Omhh, looks cool, but you COULD cast some lighting on the character when the blasts come out.
I think that's BEFORE the blast is out :p
Maybe you could apply that on the third frame as well :)
Rook has new stuff to share! :D
Granted, it's not sprites, but then if I recall, nowhere was it said we had to be limited to sprites if we wanted to share some work So I'm pimpin' out my newly opened deviantART account!
(No, this isn't a sad attempt to just get more viewers T_T )
Anyway, here it is. And yes, I'm still in my "Masters of the Universe" phase!
I'm leaving my home for a few days, but before I go I want to show you something I made a couple of minutes ago. I think the Naruto fans are going to like it. (well, probably : )
Here's my little gift for the Sprite Club :
<img>http://img27.exs.cx/img27/6858/NarutoV1.gif</img>
and, here's another little update...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v233/Zanroth/88cea580.png
I think I'm gonna rework those leggs a little, especially the right knee.
PeanutButterX
At 8/11/04 07:37 PM, PeanutButterX wrote: I knew I was forgetting something... PBX V3 blast sprites. :O
You forgot? Are you getting old or something? They say when you get older, the memory's the first thing to go ... now if I could only remember what the first thing was ...
The sprites look good as always.
-Rook-
At 8/11/04 09:47 PM, -Rook- wrote: Rook has new stuff to share!
Thanks for giving us the link! I really dig the "lighting" in the Merman pic! It really drives home the feel of being underwater. Excellent job! I also like the forced perspective with blurring the fish and the guy he's about to eat in the background. Trapjaw looks pretty good as well. Next time, enlarge the hand and the feet a bit to bring them into proportion. I dig the Spikor design and I'd really like to see you color that bad boy since you've got a good eye for color. Keep us updated!
I'm still in my "Masters of the Universe" phase!
I once went through a MotU phase ... back in the 80's ... I think I'm going to go cry now ... ;)
NazelbikAuthor
At 8/11/04 07:37 PM, NazelbikAuthor wrote: I'm leaving my home for a few days ... I want to show you something I made ... Naruto [sprites].
Have fun storming the castle! Those sprites are looking pretty cool! Good job! Tweekit has highly recommended I read Naruto, but I haven't quite made it around to it yet. I'll pick it up one of these days.
TekkamanSaber
At 8/12/04 04:19 AM, TekkamanSaber wrote: here's another update ... I think I'm gonna rework those leggs, especially the right knee.
When I looked at it, like you, I noticed the legs were a little off, but I wasn't exactly sure why and couldn't offer a suggestion on how to fix it. I opened it in Photoshop, selected the foreleg and slightly rotated it clockwise at the hip. As I rotated it, the angle of the foot appeared more natural. If you nudged the angle on the foreleg like that, whichever way is available to you in Paint, you may get a better result. Good luck!
