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And i will help in the killing of you.
Loops are bad, it shows you have no musical ability at all, but wish to have that ability.
If it's like using *just* a drum loop because you can't play drums or have them, that I can understand, but if it's the recorded guitar loops, or the piano loops, then I'll fucking kill you.
At 1/8/06 09:53 PM, -API- wrote: If you used premade loops, I'll kiss you.
No thanks.
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Hey! The drum loops are actually useful if you have a guitar but no drummer.
AND, you don't HAVE to use the loops. You can play your own music with the software instruments.
Besides, what's wrong with using loops? If it sounds good, then let it be. Effort alone is shit.
And you people probably haven't ever used GarageBand!
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At 1/8/06 10:23 PM, TurmionKatilot wrote: And i will help in the killing of you.
Loops are bad, it shows you have no musical ability at all, but wish to have that ability.
Dumbass. The loops are FOR (notice the bold text) people without musical ability. But an idiot like you would assume that I have no musical ability. I have an electric guitar, and I play it. Fag.
If it's like using *just* a drum loop because you can't play drums or have them, that I can understand,
I'm glad you understand it.
:but if it's the recorded guitar loops, or the piano loops,
Which are ment to be used (not to mention every other loop).
:then I'll fucking kill you.
Do your worst.
If there are loops for you to use, then why are you saying I SHOULDN'T use them? It's my fucking descision, asshole.
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hahahaha omfg i dont know were to start....hahahahahahha rofl....
loops are cheating in a way. its like if someone gave you 10 paintings and told you to hang them up in a good order for a museum. you hang them up. but then when people ask you who made the paintings you say "i did!"
see what im saying? besides last time i checked loops are against the AP rules.
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At 1/8/06 08:40 PM, -2x4-Yusof wrote: Who here has GarageBand songs in the Audio Portal.
Me.
Who here actually cared?
Nobody.
hahahah im going to upload some garageband songs today. but not that mac stuff our band used an mp3 voice recorder until we can get some real equipment
Garageband? Good for you, unfortunately, every other person in the AP has had and abandoned it, and by taking an aggressive approach you threw rationalizing out the window. I doubt anyone will listen to your music from here unless it's just to flame you back.
I can understand if "Premade loops" in dance floor music can upset people, but "Premade loops" is also known as Sampling, some of the biggest and most innovative names in music have sampled, and it's quite naive to call it bogus; you're throwing out a large and intellectual part of electronic music. I'd only pity a sampler if he recreated rock songs and say he did the instruments.
i plan on using soundtrack (GB for grown-ups) to record some things. But, I plan on doing most of the guitar work myself, once i get electrics for my acoustic because i suck at drums, and i don't own a bass. I also don't see why people frown so much on a program like this. Yes, using premade loops is dumb if that's all you use and call it your own, However, I think that using the said program can be used as a very valuable learning tool for the growing guitarist. You can expiriment with soloing, sampling, songwriting, and musicianship. This allows you to grow exponentially without wasting the time of your fellow musicians. Oh, well. As long as your're not an ass about loops and you're inputing your own instumentation, i don't see any problems with it.
My rule is, I don't like to sample multi-note passages of music unless I have performed them myself. Under that specification, multi-note applys to drum rythms, but not to noise. That way, I'm at least the sole creator and arranger of single sounds into melodies and rythms, if not the creator of the sounds themselves, and I feel that's the way it should be. This doesn't mean I boycott anyone who does differently; it's just how I like to work.
Personally, i don't like using loops, but i have nothing against people who does use them. I know that in some situations it's superior, for example, if you need lifelike drums but don't have any real drums. These can be very hard to do, and i know, someone already mentioned this, but i thought i'd agree, you CAN use loops as long as you put effort in your arrangement and getting everything howb you want it.
I have spoken.
I think loops can be cool if you make them evident in your music, not if you try to disguise them as real drums.
They ARE real drums, and there's no shame in it.
I think the purpose of this topic shifted.
At 1/18/06 02:18 AM, Erkie wrote: They ARE real drums, and there's no shame in it.
What I meant was; I think it's bad if you use loops to make it sound like a drummer played an entire song. It's cheating and it's noticeable, and I don't like it. Loops can certainly be real drums.
I think the purpose of this topic shifted.
Me too.
GarageBand is loop based, but that doesn't mean you HAVE to use loops in your compositions. In fact it's pretty powerful considering it supports the Audio Unit standard, supports external MIDI controllers and keyboards, has the ability to notate music and much more. The only downside for me is that the channels only have two insert effects...
