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Posted at: 4/29/09 04:26 AM

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Or, How you can review any song you want.

I thought I'd like to share my review style since there's a lot of mystification around the subject. Seems like a lot of people don't really know "how to do it" with any song not in their "realm".

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Posted at: 4/29/09 05:22 AM

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Is it allowed to advertise your newspost in the forums?


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At 4/29/09 05:22 AM, MH16 wrote: Is it allowed to advertise your newspost in the forums?

I don't believe its advised. Audio Forums a ghost town though. Good news post though.

I have one on the Portal as my Primary post :)

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Posted at: 4/29/09 06:12 AM

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I think is a good thing to try to teach people how to write a review.
This way you will not end up with crappy reviews like:
"I loved this song" and giving you 4* o_O
Reviews are a good way to get feedback and improve but some people use those just to advertise their own stuff, like:
"Very nice song, i like it
Please review also my latest song xxxxx" 10* (to make sure that you'll give a good mark in exchange).

I agree that talking about reviews is not like talking about music production, but for most people reviews are an important tool to improvement.


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At 4/29/09 06:12 AM, sorohanro wrote: blabla

What happend to 'Give and thy shall receive'?
So far i'm reviewing hoping that they would review back. To get my music heard. Ofcourse also the very welcome criticsm which i never get >: l.
I suspose reviewers, or should i say, people are getting more lazier by the day and just to show their oppinion or support they post a 1 word review. (which results in a negative review anyway).

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At 4/29/09 07:52 AM, FlamingFirebolt wrote:
At 4/29/09 06:12 AM, sorohanro wrote: blabla
What happend to 'Give and thy shall receive'?
So far i'm reviewing hoping that they would review back. To get my music heard. Ofcourse also the very welcome criticsm which i never get >: l.
I suspose reviewers, or should i say, people are getting more lazier by the day and just to show their oppinion or support they post a 1 word review. (which results in a negative review anyway).

Sorohanro's point wasn't that you shouldn't get a review back from an artist you review, but what he meant was that some people write a one word review BECAUSE they want reviews on their own song.
I think that when you write a review it should be to help the artist and not to help yourself.


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Posted at: 4/29/09 01:01 PM

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At 4/29/09 05:22 AM, MH16 wrote: Is it allowed to advertise your newspost in the forums?

Yeah, it may not make much sense, I could've actually just posted it IN the thread, but I think they were both legitimate options, since it is important information.

At 4/29/09 06:12 AM, sorohanro wrote: I agree that talking about reviews is not like talking about music production, but for most people reviews are an important tool to improvement.

If they ask for technical reviews, let the floodgates open.

However, even though th emotional context of a song does not involve minute technical details, it does involve the actual direction of the song, and what decision the artist makes in the technical details.

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At 4/29/09 04:26 AM, Erkie wrote: Or, How you can review any song you want.

I thought I'd like to share my review style since there's a lot of mystification around the subject. Seems like a lot of people don't really know "how to do it" with any song not in their "realm".

Great thread buddy!

Its good to see many of you are showing interest on improving the portal ; )


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The thing about receiving votes is if you get a bad one...

EXAMPLES

Heading: "this was was the shit!! (10/10 stars)

Body: "this song bumped go man"

Or the reverse...

Heading: "wtf was that" (0/10 stars)

Body: "i didnt understaind dat wut was it?"

...then it's normally good practice not to take that to heart. A bad review can still be positive with regards to how it praises your music, but when it's so incoherent that the reviewer couldn't possibly have his age in the double digits yet, it's obviously non-constructive, and you'd be better off skipping over it. Or just deleting it entirely.

Now giving reviews, that's easy. Take your time and articulate your meaning so that you're not just saying what you mean, you're saying it in a way that the artist you're reviewing will understand and appreciate it.

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At 4/29/09 07:52 AM, FlamingFirebolt wrote: sorohanro is writing blabla

What I say is:
A review that is saying just " very nice" 10/10 is not helpful, not t all. When I give a review I give it hoping that I can say something helpful, giving some technical advices or leave my overall impressions so the author can see what his music is inspiring.
Giving a one word review just hoping that you'll get a review back it's a quite lame thing to do.

Also I don't get reviews like this one:

How Erkie reviews.


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At 4/29/09 01:38 PM, sorohanro wrote: What I say is...

That summed up my idea better than my own post did. Kudos.

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Your review aren't that great Erkie.

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reviews*

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Elaborate.

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nobody reviews anymore.

your an outcast.

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At 4/29/09 03:06 PM, Truemen wrote: nobody reviews anymore.

your an outcast.

Being an outcast isn't quite as bad as not knowing the difference between "your" and "you're".

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I have a very sandard method of reviewing:

I listen to the song - and review as I go - I comment on things I like - how it made me feel - the imagery that came to mind - and hten when its done I sum it up - and say anything that I didn't dislike - and what could be improved.

Alternately I will listen to the song - then say what I liked, then didnt like, and how it can be improved. Although I usually say what I didnt like first, and then what I liked after - psychologically it makes the person feel better to end on a high note.

and that's about it!

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And having three reviews starting two days ago.

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At 4/29/09 03:09 PM, Nithalahk wrote:
At 4/29/09 03:06 PM, Truemen wrote: nobody reviews anymore.

your an outcast.
Being an outcast isn't quite as bad as not knowing the difference between "your" and "you're".

Your such an asshole Nithalahk.

I love it!

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At 4/29/09 03:21 PM, Chronamut wrote: and that's about it!

You don't count.

Don't ask me why.

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At 4/29/09 03:23 PM, Erkie wrote:
At 4/29/09 03:21 PM, Chronamut wrote: and that's about it!
You don't count.

Don't ask me why.

well that's because I know how to review ;)

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At 4/29/09 03:06 PM, Truemen wrote: nobody reviews anymore.

your an outcast.

I beg to differ sir =)


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At 4/29/09 01:38 PM, sorohanro wrote:
Also I don't get reviews like this one:

Oh, sorohanro, I know who this is. Hehe. :)

Just let him think that he knows something about music, cause...he doesn't. I think I'm just going to review his "very cool" metal tune that he posted just for the lolz. You know, beeing a jerk with all the knowledge. :) On the other hand...naaaa. Too lazy.

How bout, we write him a response like, "ur mum" or something, that should keep him busy for awhile. I love people who can't actually tell what's wrong with a song you posted but feel forced to tell you that it's "bad" or "not good", even the fact that they HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE what's up with it. :)

Audio Engineer ma cooock! >:U

Anyways, I do review a lot and I try to be obejective to people I don't really know...see reviews for details.

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Posted at: 4/29/09 07:51 PM

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I admit, it was my reviewing alt.

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@DarKsidE555
Don't be so harsh on the kid, after all we all make our reviewing mistakes :D or stuff that later gets embarrassing.
I don't really mind this, I got much worst reviews :))

@Erkie
We all knew that :p
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At 4/29/09 08:50 PM, Erkie wrote: Reaper of ratings is also my half brother.

lol.

does that make you MY half brother erkie? :P

or perhaps I AM ERKIE!

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At 4/29/09 08:53 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 4/29/09 08:50 PM, Erkie wrote: Reaper of ratings is also my half brother.
lol.

does that make you MY half brother erkie? :P

or perhaps I AM ERKIE!

You just called Erkie a homosexual.

Lol.

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At 4/29/09 09:32 PM, Nithalahk wrote:
At 4/29/09 08:53 PM, Chronamut wrote:
At 4/29/09 08:50 PM, Erkie wrote: Reaper of ratings is also my half brother.
lol.

does that make you MY half brother erkie? :P

or perhaps I AM ERKIE!
You just called Erkie a homosexual.

Lol.

or myself a heterosexual - now wouldnt THAT be scandalous!

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