At 11/27/03 03:19 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote: This is probably the elite of elite lists hehe ill prob nv be on here unless......hmm hehe i may never make that either hehe, anyways nice list...

~X~

You can't be that far away in b/p surely... but yes, this list is fairly leet. And another which I won't be on for a very long time - b/p would be the first I make and that's a whole 7,000+ and seven rank ups away! But when I do get there, think of the voting power!

Having said that, by then everyone will have 50,000 b/p points, I'll only be in the mid-teens in level, and not have a great deal of posts either.

I think a fairer way to order this (considering that the list order is so heavily weighted towards ramagi, fixit, Joe and other b/p legends, would be to order it by working out each person's percentage in relation to the leader in that field. So ramagi for example would be 58.5-100-10.2=168.7, but Shrapnel would be 98.3-3.8-93.4=195.5. I suppose then it would be much too much like the vote power list, only with posting tacked on for good measure. Just my two penneth (hell, I've just updated my list, I'm in the mood to discuss inconsequential points).

Very nice list..I might be up there soon ;)

At 11/27/03 03:26 PM, _lightning_ wrote:
seeing you post here makes me think this list should have review number to

Ha yeah but prob wont happen reviews seem to take a back seat...

~X~

At 11/27/03 07:16 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/27/03 03:26 PM, _lightning_ wrote:
seeing you post here makes me think this list should have review number to

Ha yeah but prob wont happen reviews seem to take a back seat...

If gfox decides to add that stat to the list it's gonna bump you up a spot or two ~X~.

At 11/27/03 09:09 AM, TheJoe324 wrote:

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote: No one has over 10,000 in all three.

It'll be a while before someone does... since there's no one that's REALLY close to it, If someone is CLOSE TO or above 10,000 in 2 categories, it seems they are very far away in the third...

Nemesis:
B/P: Over... Exp: Over... Posts: Far from it.

Biteme:
B/P: Over... Posts: Over... Exp: Far from it.

Shrapnel:
Posts: Over... Exp: Over... B/P: Far from it.

HAQ/Captain_Bob/ramagi:
B/P: Over... Exp: Close... Posts: Far from it.

Excellent analysis.

And many other combinations. Since B/P would be the easiest category to improve since the only limit is the amount submitted, Shrapnel would be in the best position if he started voting on UJ submissions, Since Nemesis would have to spam the BBS (To get that amount he'd have to) And Biteme would have to find some way to cheat the system into giving him experience because with regular depositing, that would be over 2 years away.

Well, you're certainly a possibility, man. Your exp and your posts are moving upwards steadily, and while neither is in striking distance of 10,000, I can certainly see the day in which they will be.

The thing is, I'm actually more likely to believe that biteme will beat Nemesis and Shrapnel to triple 10,000s because even though it will take 2 years or so to get that much exp...

A) he is getting plenty of exp, and shows no signs of getting tired of NG, so it WILL happen eventually.

B) like you said, Shrapnel would have to start voting on UJ stuff, and he doesn't any more than humantarget does.

C) Nemesis is unlikely to become biteme or format on the BBS and start posting like mad.

So it'll take time, but of those three, my money's on biteme.

But I believe that the first to 10,000 of EVERYONE will probably be someone who just has 10,000+ b/p right now, like you or I or ramagi or someone. Ramagi's postcount's the problem, though... eh...

you killin me gfoxcook i love ya man, but there is not a list you have made that you didnt leave me off of for a long old time. bmb = 13171.

At 11/27/03 12:10 PM, alexsmolik wrote: I think that, in order to be in that list, you have to (at least), have one of these stats that reaches 10,000. Na'mean ?
WOOT I'M TOP10 !!!

yeah, right behind me and Recon. Love the 1337 bp's. #;-}>

At 11/27/03 12:30 PM, _altr_ wrote: Hmmm, don't think you could make it look better.
Nice stats =) ...

At 11/27/03 12:52 PM, leeboy105 wrote: Nice list Gfox, quite intriguing. I though i'd be quite a bit lower on the list, but 26th isn't bad. Whether or not you update it is up to you and you do have quite a bit on your plate with the other lists you make, but i'd like to see it continue.

Glad to hear everyone likes the list for both the content and the format.

Anywho... I'm also very pleased and surprised about how many posts this got right off the bat. I don't think I've EVER left after a new thread of mine had around 3 posts (me and Macbeth early this morning), and when I came back later in the day, it was already chuggin' through page 2 with 33+. heh. #;-}>

At 11/27/03 08:44 PM, Recon_Rebel wrote:

At 11/27/03 07:16 PM, XwaynecoltX wrote:

At 11/27/03 03:26 PM, _lightning_ wrote:
seeing you post here makes me think this list should have review number to

Ha yeah but prob wont happen reviews seem to take a back seat...

If gfox decides to add that stat to the list it's gonna bump you up a spot or two ~X~.

The reason reviews aren't on the list is twofold, Xwayne...

first of all, and most importantly, no one has over 10,000 of them. So it would be kinda silly to go to the extra work of adding all 60 review counts to all 60 totals on the list, when not a single one of those people (nor anyone else, yourself included!) has 10,000 reviews.

yet, that is. #;-}>

secondly, while it's a great stat, I don't consider it one of the "top 3" stats. Those being the 3 stats this list covers. But that's a minor thing. If you crack open 10,000 reviews, I'll add you (and reviews) to the list in a special modified update, at the very list. Happy? #;-}>

At 11/27/03 03:44 PM, jonthomson wrote: You can't be that far away in b/p surely... but yes, this list is fairly leet. And another which I won't be on for a very long time - b/p would be the first I make and that's a whole 7,000+ and seven rank ups away! But when I do get there, think of the voting power!

Heh. The good news is that by the time you get to 10,000 b/p, you'll undoubtedly have more exp than I had when I got to 10,000 b/p, so you'll probably actually be a higher VPed Second Lieutenant than I was... if that means anything to ya.

Having said that, by then everyone will have 50,000 b/p points, I'll only be in the mid-teens in level, and not have a great deal of posts either.

I dunno about 50,000 b/p. And I CERTAINLY don't know about everyone.

I wouldn't expect that more than 10 people would be over 30,000 by the time you hit 10,000, personally. You may be moving somewhat slowly, but do you see many people on the list (who aren't already in or near the top 10) moving super fast?

I think a fairer way to order this (considering that the list order is so heavily weighted towards ramagi, fixit, Joe and other b/p legends, would be to order it by working out each person's percentage in relation to the leader in that field. So ramagi for example would be 58.5-100-10.2=168.7, but Shrapnel would be 98.3-3.8-93.4=195.5. I suppose then it would be much too much like the vote power list, only with posting tacked on for good measure. Just my two penneth (hell, I've just updated my list, I'm in the mood to discuss inconsequential points).

You forgot to mention it's heavily weighted towards myself, as well. #;-}> But I didn't plan it that way. I was pleasantly surprised to see myself at #8, only 1 lower than my b/p rank at 7.

The percentage idea is certainly interesting, but seeing as how the exp system and levels are already based on % scaling already, it'd be tying it too close to that, IMO, like you said... too much like the VP list but factoring in posts.

While b/p aren't as "hard" to get (as in, timewise) as experience, I think simply adding the raw points together is the best way of doing it. It doesn't involve any formula that begins to enter subjectivity into the proceedings....

and besides, even easier than exp OR b/p is posts. Not that everyone has tons of them, but just look at biteme. He managed to get 10,000 posts in a little over half a year while getting much less b/p (until he stopped posting so much and started b/ping more).

Because, after all, there may be a 10 exp limit per day, and a b/p limit based upon how many movies are submitted... but there is really no limit on posting provided you don't get banned for doing anything wrong and you don't run out of topics to reply to. If you participated in a few political discussions in Politics, a few silly General threads, a couple lists here on WIHT, and maybe a couple clubs in C&C, and spent enough of each day doing so, you could probably average 200+ posts per day.

And, even for fixit, getting 200+ b/p... even on a day with 200+ entries submitted... is nearly impossible.

At 11/27/03 09:09 AM, TheJoe324 wrote: Biteme would have to find some way to cheat the system into giving him experience because with regular depositing, that would be over 2 years away.

I still say that I'm doing extremely well for someone who only joined Newgrounds nine months ago. I mean, Experience is just hard to gain. Like you said, two years? That's insanity, dude. But yeah, being the first person to reach 10000 posts and 10000 blam/protect points is a pretty good feeling. At least I was first in something around here, you know? And being associated with users like Shrapnel and NeMeSiSM66? That's awesome! By the way, this is an awesome list and it's good to know that I'm at least in the Top 20. Great stuff, gfoxcook. Loving every list you put out, man.

Wow, impressive list gfox! Me like! Here's my stats just for fun:

Rank -- Exp ------ B/P --- Posts --- Total --- Username
== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- =================
?? -- _2715 -- _3941 -- _2197 -- 8853 -- James0

Nearly at 10,000 Total! Nice! This is a list I might be updating just for myself on a weekly basis, it's awesome!

At 11/28/03 01:41 AM, James0 wrote: Wow, impressive list gfox! Me like! Here's my stats just for fun:

Rank -- Exp ------ B/P --- Posts --- Total --- Username
== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- =================
?? -- _2715 -- _3941 -- _2197 -- 8853 -- James0
?? -- _2815 -- _6391 -- _3997 -- 13203 -- BlGMANBRAINY

Nearly at 10,000 Total! Nice! This is a list I might be updating just for myself on a weekly basis, it's awesome!

good plan!
im sorry, but you didnt reply and this gets at my nervs. (ive checked this topic like 5 or 6 times since i posted in here the first time. :( daddy, am i obssesed?

Meh, i did my stats. Don't forget i did have to start from scratch with the B/P and pretty much with the posts.

Rank -- Exp ------ B/P --- Posts --- Total --- Username
== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- =========
?? -- _3550 -- __418 -- _1511 -- _5479 -- MofoMAC

At 11/28/03 02:24 AM, BlGMANBRAINY wrote: good plan!
im sorry, but you didnt reply and this gets at my nervs. (ive checked this topic like 5 or 6 times since i posted in here the first time. :( daddy, am i obssesed?

just to clear one thing up here. You are aware that you have to have 10 000 in minimum one field. So you have quite a bit to go. You probably know this, but if you didn't...

BTW, my stats would be:

Rank -- Exp ------ B/P --- Posts --- Total --- Username
== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- =================
?? -- _3065 -- _7477-- _2247 -- 12789-- -PZY-

At 11/28/03 01:00 AM, biteme2514 wrote: I still say that I'm doing extremely well for someone who only joined Newgrounds nine months ago. I mean, Experience is just hard to gain. Like you said, two years?

Yeah, I know you're doing very good, it's just that the only category you're lacking points in is the hardest to gain which makes it less likely that you'll be the first there.. It's the only one that is solely based on time. (You can make as many posts as you want in a day, and can get as many points as there are submissions but you can only get 10 exp) It's up to Shrapnel and Nemesis if they can get to 10,000 b/p and posts, but you have to wait.

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote:
I neglected to mention that NemesisM66 was the first (and, so far, only) one to hit 10,000 in both exp and b/p.

No one has over 10,000 in all three.

You know I didn't know that, I seem to be breaking all sorts of records I didn't know exsisted =]. I doubt I'll ever get 10,000 Posts. I'm just not the posting kinda guy.

At 11/28/03 03:57 PM, NeMeSiSM66 wrote: I'm just not the posting kinda guy.

you can always hire a room full of little Mexican kids to do it for you.

At 11/28/03 06:47 PM, MagicalMusicalHulk wrote:

At 11/28/03 03:57 PM, NeMeSiSM66 wrote: I'm just not the posting kinda guy.

you can always hire a room full of little Mexican kids to do it for you.

Or Josh Bedn. Whichever works for cheaper

At 11/28/03 07:24 PM, NeMeSiSM66 wrote:
Or Josh Bedn. Whichever works for cheaper

If he's not busy licking Yoink's neck

Shouldn't i be on this list?

Rank -- Exp ------ B/P --- Posts --- Total --- Username
== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- ===== -- =================
?? -- _3235 -- _8242 -- __746 --12223 -- Toocool100

::feels left out of the club of greatness... cries::

At 11/28/03 11:49 PM, Toocool100 wrote: Shouldn't i be on this list?

Read gfox's post again.

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote: But I decided to make a little list of the people on NG who have at LEAST 10,000 of ONE of the stats.

The highest in any one category you have is around 8,000.. When you get to 10,000 though you'll be on it.

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote: No one has over 10,000 in all three.

This is something that just came to me, but since this thread appears to be based on who's got the best chance of getting 10000 in Experience, Blam/Protect Points and Posts, shouldn't the people who have 10000 in two of those categories be separated into a higher class over all the others? I mean, take fixit for example. He's only in the #3 slot because of his Blam/Protect Points. Judging by his other stats in this list, it's extremely doubtful that he will ever make it to the point where he has 10000 in all three categories. So should having tons in one stat be able to put you up higher on this list?

I'm just trying to take this on all sides. Then again, keep in mind that there may be a conflict of interest here. I'm just going to come right out and say it; if you do change the list based on this, I will be higher up there. However, I still think that that would make more sense than having someone who has tens of thousands in one stat dominating this list based on one category when the list is based on three. That last statement wasn't directed at anyone in particular either. Just stating my opinion. The final decision is still with gfoxcook...

hell ill update it once a month

if ya dont want to gfoxcook, but do ya have any of the id codes, i would appriciate them if ya got them.

At 11/28/03 08:48 AM, -PZY- wrote:

At 11/28/03 02:24 AM, BlGMANBRAINY wrote: good plan!
im sorry, but you didnt reply and this gets at my nervs. (ive checked this topic like 5 or 6 times since i posted in here the first time. :( daddy, am i obssesed?

just to clear one thing up here. You are aware that you have to have 10 000 in minimum one field. So you have quite a bit to go. You probably know this, but if you didn't...

um yeah....i knew that...*hits you in the face then runns!*

nno then sure ill take the list, no problem!

At 11/28/03 07:24 PM, NeMeSiSM66 wrote:

At 11/28/03 06:47 PM, MagicalMusicalHulk wrote: you can always hire a room full of little Mexican kids to do it for you.

Or Josh Bedn. Whichever works for cheaper

Haha ! Those "NG-related-jokes" make me laugh lewl !
Damn I'm sick and I have to take medication that makes me want to fart and stuff. I know it's off topic. I guess I'll start to post a little bit more, you know, just in order to grow on that list a little bit more ... hehehe.
And of course, for my personal pleasure of being at the top of something ! =)
Anyways, I'm off to watching a Bruce Lee movie ... or maybe the Shining. Future'll tell.

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote: I neglected to mention that NemesisM66 was the first (and, so far, only) one to hit 10,000 in both exp and b/p.

Looking at the list, looks like Haq will be 2nd on that before the years up.
I gotta wait till mid Feb. =P . Possibly be #3 ...

At 11/28/03 03:57 PM, NeMeSiSM66 wrote:

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote:
I neglected to mention that NemesisM66 was the first (and, so far, only) one to hit 10,000 in both exp and b/p.

No one has over 10,000 in all three.

You know I didn't know that, I seem to be breaking all sorts of records I didn't know exsisted =]. I doubt I'll ever get 10,000 Posts. I'm just not the posting kinda guy.

Heh. Well, you ARE the Voting Power King. And since VP is based on a mix of exp and b/p, it certainly makes sense that you are the first and only person to hit 10,000 in both exp and b/p. You're ranked #8 and #11, for one thing. No one's ranked as low as you are on BOTH top 50 lists.

You rock da exp/b/p/vp world!

At 11/29/03 01:15 AM, biteme2514 wrote: This is something that just came to me, but since this thread appears to be based on who's got the best chance of getting 10000 in Experience, Blam/Protect Points and Posts, shouldn't the people who have 10000 in two of those categories be separated into a higher class over all the others?

Well, the bulk of the conversation that's been taking place IN this thread, and one of the most interesting thing about the 10,000+ stat people to me that prompted me to make this list, is indeed that there are only a few people with 10,000+ in more than 1 category, and none in all 3 categories.

But the point of the LIST is that there's few enough people with just 10,000+ in 1 category alone, and that's what the list is a list of.

I mean, take fixit for example. He's only in the #3 slot because of his Blam/Protect Points. Judging by his other stats in this list, it's extremely doubtful that he will ever make it to the point where he has 10000 in all three categories. So should having tons in one stat be able to put you up higher on this list?

Since he never posts, yeah, that's a safe bet. He'll get to 10,000 exp, though.

Like I've been over already, the list is ranked by total points. I take it you'd prefer it was ranked by number of 10,000+ stats and then subranked by total points. So, IOW, it would be:

Nemesis
Shrapnel
Biteme

ramagi
etc.

I'm just trying to take this on all sides. Then again, keep in mind that there may be a conflict of interest here. I'm just going to come right out and say it; if you do change the list based on this, I will be higher up there. However, I still think that that would make more sense than having someone who has tens of thousands in one stat dominating this list based on one category when the list is based on three. That last statement wasn't directed at anyone in particular either. Just stating my opinion. The final decision is still with gfoxcook...

I do see your point. While it's not the ONLY purpose of the list (the purpose of this list, simply put, is to celebrate any and all stats over 10,000)... a person with 10,000 b/p, 10,000 exp, and 10,000 posts would certainly have hit the height of this list...

but with their 30,000 total points, would they deserve to be ranked ahead of ramagi if she had gotten to, say, 40,000 b/p, 10,000 exp, and 2000 posts?

Even though her postcount will be far from 10,000 when she hits 10,000 exp, her total will be over 40,000 by then, and that's a massive shitload of stat points.

Eh.

If nothing else, I'll tell you what. When I update this list the next time, I'll put some sort of * or boldface or italics for you, Nemesis, and Shrapnel to set you apart from the rest of the list.

But I think I'll still be ranking it by total points. It's the most logical way to do it. While balanced users with closer to 10,000 in all three stats are certainly more... I dunno... enviable, I guess, than someone who has 50,000 of one and 0 of the other two... it IS a stat list in the end. Just like you or I may respect someone with 5000 blams and 5000 protects and thus a perfectly balanced blam/save ratio... but he's simply going to be lower down on the top 50 b/p list than the 20,000+ combined people, including 15,000+ blammers and 5,000- saviors.

At 11/29/03 01:56 AM, BlGMANBRAINY wrote: hell ill update it once a month

if ya dont want to gfoxcook, but do ya have any of the id codes, i would appriciate them if ya got them.

it's not hard to find the people on the list.

~50% are the top 30 users here:

http://www.newgrounds.com/users_protect_blam.html

~40% are the top 28 users here:

http://www.newgrounds.com/users_list.html

~10% are the top 5 users here:

http://www.spasmbot.com/pages/topposters.htm

At 11/29/03 07:56 AM, _altr_ wrote:

At 11/27/03 02:43 AM, gfoxcook wrote: I neglected to mention that NemesisM66 was the first (and, so far, only) one to hit 10,000 in both exp and b/p.

Looking at the list, looks like Haq will be 2nd on that before the years up.
I gotta wait till mid Feb. =P . Possibly be #3 ...

Coolness.

Nemesis
HAQ
altr

I certainly wouldn't have guessed off-hand that that was gonna be the order for 10k+ on exp and b/p, but yeah, you guys certainly have the exp and exp momentum to pull it off.