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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 2nd, 2011 @ 09:04 PM Reply

At 12/2/11 08:55 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: I can read your post history.
You have forsaken us to hang with General :C

oh that

I like to not think when on a forum, and talking about artistic ventures usually requires some base level of intellectual communication. Not to mention it's really a subject I don't know nearly enough about to feel comfortable communicating about it.

I just take the easier path. I'll try and get on the art stickam room a bit more, compromise.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 12:04 PM Reply

For all you Minecrafters.
Especially you Leggy.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:05 PM Reply

I went with the drum gear, though to be fair I'm making 100-200 a month designing websites/logos for local businesses (each) so the tablet would have made that easier, but yeah music is more important to me so thanks for that.

Aigis, you're retarded.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:09 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 04:05 PM, Knocturne wrote: Aigis, you're retarded.

I can't say I appreciate that.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:27 PM Reply

What I meant to say is as follows:
"If you think of drawing/painting first and almost exclusively when you think 'art' you have a very close minded view on art. Not to say 'everything is art' because that's almost as retarded as what you said. But, that things that are done for the sake of appreciation self-expression like craft making, sculpting, dance, drawing, painting, music, acting, writing, film making etc. should come to mind when you think art because it's art.

I mean, there's a distinct lack of thought in your initial post, maybe you were confused because there's another forum dedicated to music and you couldn't process the validity of the question because there'd be a bias, or maybe your ability to fathom two forms of art being vastly different made your brain sore. Either way, an 'artist' with a limited worldview such as what you've suggested is indicative of such small mindedness as stating aglet making is the only true art form because it's the only process your mind can functionally recognize."

I've been up for 36-ish hours, and your willingness to say retarded things is retardedly affecting my mood.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:40 PM Reply

My view on this is everyone's equally full of shit and that it is all irrelevant anyway.
Art is whatever you decide it is. Arguing it is just as pointless as arguing Ps3 vs X-Box.

But then I'm full of shit.
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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:47 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 04:40 PM, JackDGreatest wrote: My view on this is everyone's equally full of shit and that it is all irrelevant anyway.
Art is whatever you decide it is. Arguing it is just as pointless as arguing Ps3 vs X-Box.

But PS3 is a stronger system (spec wise) and the sales for the 360 only surpass the PS3 because Americans happen to be retarded.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 04:49 PM Reply

Knocturne, you condescending prat, clearly when I said 'art' I meant 'visual art' because that is what this god damn forum is about and that is the context in which I was using the bloody word.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:02 PM Reply

Ho ho ho don't start arguing or I will take a shit in your xmas stockings


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:21 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 04:05 PM, Knocturne wrote: Aigis, you're retarded.
At 12/3/11 04:47 PM, Knocturne wrote: Americans happen to be retarded.

Are you implying that Aigis is American?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:38 PM Reply

No, I'm just very liberal with the use of the word "retarded".

Examples: "This pasta is so good it's retarded.", "You're the most retarded genius ever." "Retarded!"


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:40 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 05:21 PM, Kashi wrote:
At 12/3/11 04:05 PM, Knocturne wrote: Aigis, you're retarded.
At 12/3/11 04:47 PM, Knocturne wrote: Americans happen to be retarded.
Are you implying that Aigis is American?

Or maybe he implied that X-Boxes happen to sell really well in the US.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:44 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 05:21 PM, Kashi wrote:
At 12/3/11 04:05 PM, Knocturne wrote: Aigis, you're retarded.
At 12/3/11 04:47 PM, Knocturne wrote: Americans happen to be retarded.
Are you implying that Aigis is American?

The worst insult??


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 05:46 PM Reply

hey, i'm a noob and i'm brazillian
i dont know anything you guys are talking
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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 06:05 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 04:40 PM, JackDGreatest wrote: My view on this is everyone's equally full of shit

I stand by my point.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 06:24 PM Reply

Yes, fight over insignificant matters, just like always.
Prove to everyone else why people here are a bunch of prats.
Don't you just fucking love the excitement?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 3rd, 2011 @ 06:35 PM Reply

At 12/3/11 06:24 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Yes, fight over insignificant matters, just like always.
Prove to everyone else why people here are a bunch of prats.
Don't you just fucking love the excitement?

I don't know what that is but a girl called me one once and I was immediately offended despite not knowing what it is.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 01:40 AM Reply

M-Vero, Y U NO ARTS ANYMORE?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 02:09 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 01:40 AM, Kashi wrote: M-Vero, Y U NO ARTS ANYMORE?

I haven't noticed until Kashi pointed it out. Maybe he is going through those troublesome art slumps that artists are afraid of. We all go through that don't we all?

About the drum set thing, I think Knoc made a wise decision. New drums are a lot more practical than a tablet considering you can still make good art without a tablet, as opposed to making good drumming without an adequate drums. But that's only what I think considering tablets aren't my friends.

I would rather not go with the "what is art" argument since it's been done before.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 02:18 AM Reply

*hasn't been in forums all day*
*no idea what is going on*


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 02:47 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 02:18 AM, jeeshwa123 wrote: *hasn't been in forums all day*
*no idea what is going on*

Feel free to enlighten yourself, go on to browse and carouse the forums to see what you can pick up.

Ps. Just placing more of my uselessness to the forum.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 04:50 AM Reply

I still draw, and draw still fairly regularly.
It's just my usual stupid shit that I've decided to not post here, or much anywhere honestly.
Whether it's a good thing or not, or some kind of phase, I've kind of stopped giving a fuck about actually posting my stuff.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 08:25 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 04:50 AM, M-Vero wrote: ...decided not to post here
...
Whether it's a good thing or not...

NOT, definitely not


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 08:32 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 04:50 AM, M-Vero wrote: I still draw, and draw still fairly regularly.
It's just my usual stupid shit that I've decided to not post here, or much anywhere honestly.
Whether it's a good thing or not, or some kind of phase, I've kind of stopped giving a fuck about actually posting my stuff.

You should post it here please :3
We miss you, and I know it's probably just the season or the art awards or whatever, but I feel like the forums are kinda comin' back to life a bit, and it sure would be nice if you came back too!
<3
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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 11:05 AM Reply

At 12/3/11 06:24 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote: Yes, fight over insignificant matters, just like always.
Prove to everyone else why people here are a bunch of prats.
Don't you just fucking love the excitement?

Reasons why people here are 'prats':
1. In this art forum there isn't much art
2. So many old forumers here and they hate forumly things like new people not using the forums correctly or stubborn forumers who can't handle critique because they've seen it a thousand times
3. Old forumers hate discussing art in terms of meaning or perception because they've already talked about it early on and anyone who missed their old conversation(s) are SOL because they are new or whatever and the old forumers don't care
4. This art forum doesn't like to critique really, unless the general consensus thinks the person in question is moronic and therefore they waste perfectly good energy telling these hopeless people how to improve (knowing full well they will >>>>>>>>>NOT<<<<<<<<< use this information when there are dozens of "hungry" artists in this forum who wish to have the critiques these (mostly older forumers) waste on the hopeless instead of the hopeful.
5. Unless you mesh into the clique you are SOL too because much of the critiques that the forumers here dole out is only really done on stickam.
6. You think talking about art is insignificant on the art forums.

This and more is why I keep stepping away from this place.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 11:14 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 11:05 AM, Knocturne wrote: 5. Unless you mesh into the clique you are SOL too because much of the critiques that the forumers here dole out is only really done on stickam.

Of course you're going to get more critique if you directly ask people on a chat room than if you just post it in your thread.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 11:20 AM Reply

Oh man. Art forum drama. What happened?

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 11:22 AM Reply

At 12/4/11 11:20 AM, CloudEater wrote: Oh man. Art forum drama. What happened?

Also, just so you know.
Yesterday = 3 hours ago.
What did Steve do? D:

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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 12:03 PM Reply

At 12/4/11 11:22 AM, CloudObler wrote:
At 12/4/11 11:20 AM, CloudEater wrote: Oh man. Art forum drama. What happened?
Also, just so you know.
Yesterday = 3 hours ago.
What did Steve do? D:

Heh. I led him to believe that Jacob was your alt again.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge Dec. 4th, 2011 @ 12:57 PM Reply

At 12/4/11 11:05 AM, Knocturne wrote: Reasons why people here are 'prats':
1. In this art forum there isn't much art

Pretty much every thread that's active that isn't the lounge is art. Just because most of the regulars don't post art anymore, doesn't mean that there's no art whatsoever.

2. So many old forumers here and they hate forumly things like new people not using the forums correctly or stubborn forumers who can't handle critique because they've seen it a thousand times

So then everyone should just mature the fuck up and get over it. If someone can't handle critique, then just leave the thread alone instead of continuing to lynch the fucking person.

3. Old forumers hate discussing art in terms of meaning or perception because they've already talked about it early on and anyone who missed their old conversation(s) are SOL because they are new or whatever and the old forumers don't care

There's nothing wrong with discussing a topic that's been brought up a few times. However, if the topic has been done to death, maybe a specific thread for that topic should be created so that the lounge doesn't get cluttered up as much, as well as the fact that anyone who is interested in that topic can be directed to it, and use that thread as an encyclopedia of sorts on the issue.

4. This art forum doesn't like to critique really, unless the general consensus thinks the person in question is moronic and therefore they waste perfectly good energy telling these hopeless people how to improve (knowing full well they will >>>>>>>>>NOT<<<<<<<<< use this information when there are dozens of "hungry" artists in this forum who wish to have the critiques these (mostly older forumers) waste on the hopeless instead of the hopeful.

I think this is mainly due to lack of motivation and people just don't care anymore. A lot of people, unfortunately, feel that if they don't get critiques, why should they give critiques? But you can't expect to get critiques all the time, and if you do, there's always the review request club to satisfy your need if you feel it necessary to get a critique on every single piece that you submit.

5. Unless you mesh into the clique you are SOL too because much of the critiques that the forumers here dole out is only really done on stickam.

Again, relates back to the last question's answer. People on stickam have grown into a more close knit community and are more friendly with each other, therefore it's easier to just say what you will and get recognition. There's an art forum activities thread for a reason, because everyone is welcome. If stickam is a resource to get critiques, then use that resource to its fullest.

6. You think talking about art is insignificant on the art forums.

No, I don't think talking about art is insignificant on the art forums. What I do think is insignificant is the fact that a lot of the times these discussions about art shift away from the actual discussion and everyone instead just starts bashing on each other like a bunch of fucking barbarians. Mature the fuck up people, and if someone is acting like a fucking moron, just ignore them. No need to turn into a bunch of fucking monkeys and start flinging your shit at one another. If you want to talk about art, talk about art, don't start arguing with someone for the sake of arguing or just because you don't like the person. Stay on fucking topic. And that's the reason why I don't like to join into these art conversations because by the end of the day the topic isn't about art, it's about who the biggest cunt is.

And if this shit keeps up, I might not bother sticking around to watch everyone burn themselves, and this forum, to the ground.