At 1/16/12 01:06 AM, GrandDaddyPurp wrote:
At 1/16/12 12:13 AM, WallofYawn wrote:
Oh, and finally: I think your friend is full of shit, because 1. being a homosexual I don't think is tolerated in the disciples, and 2. usually you get jumped in, as in, they all circle you and beat you for 20 seconds to prove that you're tough enough/willing to throw down, to be in the gang. Ass-raping is not part of initiation, and would probably never be tolerated.
They also require the names and addresses of loved ones a lot of times in order for you to join.
It was after the fact of the initiation, he got into some bullshit, and I don't know I guess his superior was a sick fucking dickhead, that typical shit happens all the time, look at the fucking world now and tell me that there are not sick fucks out there who would take advantage of stupid fucking teenagers
I aint saying there aint sick motherfuckers out there man, but you know what they do to sex offenders in the pen? If you're a rapist, sex offender, pedophile, etc. you get shanked.
I'm just saying that his superior is lucky no one found out about that shit. Especially since it was a black gang. A lot of those racist redneck bikers are secretly faggots who have a hard on for black folk, but black people tend to hate homosexuals, especially since most of them grow up going to church and having very strict Christian family members.(though I said most here, not all, so keep that in mind)
I've done plenty of research on the shit. I guess my obsession grew out of watching gangster flicks and Tarantino movies growing up.(which I still watch in fact) On top of that, I just to work at the carnival with a bunch of ex-cons and gang bangers, so I've heard a lot of stories.
it's true, another reason gangs are fucking stupid, is that once you get into them, you can never get out of them unless you let them put you through a living hell it's all fucking fake brotherhood bullshit that was though up by a bunch of anarchist rebel teenagers, they're all just immature kids
Now, I wouldn't say that shit man. Gangs nowadays may be like that, but back in the 20s and 30s, hell, even the 70s, joining a gang might not've been a bad idea, depending on the circumstances.
Imagine you're an Italian or an Irishman living in the 20s in New York for example. You stuck to your own neighborhood because you weren't wanted elsewhere. In fact, Irish people in particular were treated worse than blacks in those days.
So, you're stuck in your shabby neighborhood, with poor plumbing, overcrowded housing, in projects, living in a country that's supposed to be the land of opportunity, and you're treated worse than blacks, and not only that, but you're incapable of getting a job outside your community.
So, you and your friends get together, and form a little street gang, and start robbing places, and giving back to the community. Eventually, you grow older, and more complex with time, and you're bribing off politicians, and police officers in return for leaving you alone, and letting you do your business.
Hell, even JFK's father was involved with the mob. Anyone immigrant who wanted to make a name for himself, almost always had to. If you're an uneducated black, mexican, italian, or Irishman in those days, you don't have many options.
I see no problem in trying to survive and doing what you gotta do. I see a problem with scalping motherfuckers, or turning them into a piano necktie. I see a problem with capping people for no particular reason. I see no problem with taking advantage of an opportunity or doing what you need to. There is a difference, though it is a fine line.
but a worldwide syndicate like the mob, hell no, nobody would even think of fucking with those dudes, they are the real badasses, they would kill a whole fucking city if they had to.
No. They wouldn't. In fact, you probably see them all the time, and don't even know it. Hell, if you've ever gotten a bond, a loan, etc. you've probably dealt with a guy that knows someone who's involved with the mob, and they are in on it. All that shit you see and hear about in the movies is old shit, it's classic romanticized bonnie and clide bullshit, and things don't happen that way anymore.
You know what you hear about the mob today? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Not a god damned thing. And why is that? Because those guys are smooth. They don't go around waving guns around anymore, blazing up places, because frankly, they don't need to. They have moved on to bigger things, with less risk, and more rewards. White collar crime. Granted, I'm sure they're still involved in the usual shit, like drug trafficking to some extent, but the bulk of the work is surprisingly simple, and happens all the time.
We are talking identity theft, and if you own a credit card, chances are, you're a victim. Hell, when was the last time you looked at your account balance, thought,"I don't remember spending 20 dollars 3 months ago...aw well, probably nothing." Doesn't seem like much until you're doing it to 350 million different people a day.
Imagine taking 10 dollars here, 20 there, from 350 million citizens in the USA. That's a lot of money, that's wired into tons of separate bank accounts over the internet, in a way that's VERY difficult to trace. Pretty damn lucrative if I do say so myself.
