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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 05:20:38


All this talk about new image restrictions but nothing specifically about the amazing width increase?

Or perhaps I am just greatly impressed by the most insignificant of things.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 05:49:54


Whilst I love the redesign, I've got a sinking suspicion that the art portal layout will shed light on the way people vote, which kinda disheartens me.

I'm talking about the amount of Mature art in the Popular and Best Sections, especially the ones showing T&A.
And I'm sure High Ranking classics is gonna be static. AlvinHew on the top row, JohnnyUtah on the bottom.

I think we need some quality submissions to get this stuff moving.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 05:52:51


At 14 seconds ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: I think we need some quality submissions to get this stuff moving.

i do agree... i had a browse though the site to try and make sense of it... popped in the art portal and was like...

Mature / mature / mature best rated pictures this week... ¬-¬

dam newgrounds, why do we still have 13 year old males voting for porn all the time?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 06:28:17


At 6 hours ago, M-Vero wrote: Purple master race.

Indeed.
I'd may switch it to "Artist" when I can make portal stuff again, though... But anyways, Purple is so bewtifull...

At 4 hours ago, ornery wrote: PNG Image test.
also jesus fucking piss this thing looks like ass as a png, why the fuck you guys want this is beyond me, all pixelated artifacted bullshit.

I'm afraid that it's the same issue that happened with the sample miniatures of Dumping Grounds. png's may get all sorts or artifacts and shit, and if you use transparency, the results may be TERRIBLE.
It'd be advisable not to post .png's on the forum... at least for the moment.

At 26 minutes ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Whilst I love the redesign, I've got a sinking suspicion that the art portal layout will shed light on the way people vote, which kinda disheartens me.

I'm talking about the amount of Mature art in the Popular and Best Sections, especially the ones showing T&A.
And I'm sure High Ranking classics is gonna be static. AlvinHew on the top row, JohnnyUtah on the bottom.

*sigh*
Yeah, I also felt that way. And I know that it may feel weird coming from me.
I suppose that's the disadvantages of the score system...

Apart from that, Oh, those level icons... Belial! Killer spheres! The Glaive...!!!
Oh boy, what a romp!

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 06:58:28


At 27 minutes ago, BizarroJoe wrote: Apart from that, Oh, those level icons... Belial! Killer spheres! The Glaive...!!!
Oh boy, what a romp!

if someone can tell me what my icon is... i would be thankful :3 (waiting for sharks with frigin lazor beams :D... want that green fire scythe)...

also love the new arty backgrounds for the site...


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 07:39:49


At 34 minutes ago, LegolaSS wrote: also love the new arty backgrounds for the site...

Yeah, me too... They've turned out terrific!

if someone can tell me what my icon is... i would be thankful :3 (waiting for sharks with frigin lazor beams :D... want that green fire scythe)...

Seriously...? Well, here it is:

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 07:42:18


At 1 hour ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: Whilst I love the redesign, I've got a sinking suspicion that the art portal layout will shed light on the way people vote, which kinda disheartens me.

I'm talking about the amount of Mature art in the Popular and Best Sections, especially the ones showing T&A.
And I'm sure High Ranking classics is gonna be static. AlvinHew on the top row, JohnnyUtah on the bottom.

I think we need some quality submissions to get this stuff moving.

Ahh the moment when art gets ranked on the number of views and not on the art Itself.There is even a piece of mine that I totally don't see a point of being in the "Best art of this year" section :/

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 07:57:08


At 13 minutes ago, BizarroJoe wrote: Seriously...? Well, here it is:

Thank you BizarroJoe... My hero <3

Love how you can see the camera crew and stuff in the reflection in that picture :D

wonder if they are going to keep this 1 vote per user... i can see allot of the top 10 flashes/games and art becoming rather static....


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 09:47:20


A lot more movie references in the new levels line up.

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 09:52:32


At 1 minute ago, big-jonny-13 wrote: A lot more movie references in the new levels line up.

Bustin' makes me feel good.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 09:57:16


Late to the show but I wanted to agree with the said things about the art portal. I kinda like this new layout, I almost wish I just wasn't here for the previous one so it wouldn't have to have me adjusting.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 10:04:10


Hidden links are a thing of the past.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 10:17:24


At 23 minutes ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1 minute ago, big-jonny-13 wrote: A lot more movie references in the new levels line up.
Bustin' makes me feel good.

Wrong movie TOAS, that's from Basket Case.

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 10:20:56


At 19 seconds ago, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 23 minutes ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1 minute ago, big-jonny-13 wrote: A lot more movie references in the new levels line up.
Bustin' makes me feel good.
Wrong movie TOAS, that's from Basket Case.

That movie is so hilarious I just immediately recognized the twin brother in the icon.The deaths in it are so fake and unbelievable that it reaches cartoon violence.But that's its charm......

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 11:55:42


So can anyone here upload to the portal? because I can't.

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 12:10:38


At 11 minutes ago, JackDGreatest wrote: So can anyone here upload to the portal? because I can't.

No, I can't, either.

At 1 hour ago, big-jonny-13 wrote: Wrong movie TOAS, that's from Basket Case.

What? No way.
Next thing you'll tell me is that this icon isn't from The Pagemaster movie.

all the level 50s are far too mouth-wateringly good.

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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 12:55:05


At 42 minutes ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 11 minutes ago, JackDGreatest wrote: So can anyone here upload to the portal? because I can't.
No, I can't, either.

I'm wondering if the other portals are glitched up too, cause there hasn't been anything new in the game or movie portal in a while either.

At 1 hour ago, big-jonny-13 wrote: Wrong movie TOAS, that's from Basket Case.
What? No way.
Next thing you'll tell me is that this icon isn't from The Pagemaster movie.
all the level 50s are far too mouth-wateringly good.

Is it the Patrick Stewart book?

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 13:15:12


Yeah guys flash and art submission are broken, check toms newspost.
@ pngs: the problems with my pic were probably due to it being larger than 200 kb. (according to tom) the upside of this is no more resaving jpegs at lower quality to fit the limit.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 13:45:12


I'm getting errors all over the place, also had to validate my account twice :(


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 14:02:07


Sorry if I'm repeating anything already said, just sorta scanned through in an effort to absorb maximum feedback. Here are my thoughts on what could be done with the Audio Portal front page, what do you think of this:

1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

Thoughts?


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 14:23:15


At 10 minutes ago, TomFulp wrote: Sorry if I'm repeating anything already said, just sorta scanned through in an effort to absorb maximum feedback. Here are my thoughts on what could be done with the Audio Portal front page, what do you think of this:

1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

I was just thinking about this last night, one more row sounds good

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

Definitely man, boobs are cool and all, but I think actual art should be the first thing you see.....unless your looking for boobs

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

While this seems like a good Idea, you really can't go by that. This brings me back to what I heard you mention in one of your earlier posts, we should be allowed only one vote per person, per submission, makes things fair.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

This is a pretty good Idea, go for it

Thoughts?

Looking good tom, keep up the good work man


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 14:39:32


At 24 minutes ago, TomFulp wrote: Sorry if I'm repeating anything already said, just sorta scanned through in an effort to absorb maximum feedback. Here are my thoughts on what could be done with the Audio Portal front page, what do you think of this:

1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

In my opinion, you should even consider two more rows. Average artists hardly got more than 20 votes when it showed the 24 latest art pieces. It will probably decrease even further now. But then again people see the whole page, when they check "More new art". I think one more row is a good idea in any case. :)

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

Maybe the random assortment thingy you suggested for the classics section could solve this problem to some degree already. You could try that for a month or so and turn on the filter if it does not do the job.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

The total votes being considered is a nice feature to compensate for brand new submissions. But contest entries for example get more views and votes at an average than most other stuff, so there is always room for some unbalances. Same here with the random assortment, it could help to sort out some issues.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

I think that's a good idea and could maybe be used for the other sections too. Probably not 100-200, but a lower number.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 14:44:53


At 19 minutes ago, TomFulp wrote: 1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

I'd go with this. I think the current selection is a bit limited - I think in the previous design it cycles through more than 24 pics a day.

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

Mm, then it skips out stuff like this which fits in nicely to the M category. And this is barely M, yet Shad's focused the thumbnail on the knockers. I don't think there's much you can do here.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

Tough problem. I don't know how the algorithm works, and I like the idea of weighting things by number of votes.
How about higher scores takes precedence, and there's a limit to how numerous voted submission affect the scores. Say:
S(n,s) = C * log_e(n) * s^2
where S is the weighted score, C is a coefficient, n is the number of votes and s is the score provided by the voters.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

Great idea. Random Top 100 sounds brilliant.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 15:35:31


I'm digging the new design.
However I don't like how the new side banners have .jpg artifacts.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 15:44:40


At 1 hour ago, TomFulp wrote: 1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

Definetly, the new stuff needs more exposure longer.

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

Yes, this would encourage people to not rely on T&A for views and high scores.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

I think a combo of reviews, views, votes, and score should be taken into account. Not really sure how to stop total dominance or exploits in this one though.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

Random would definitely be best, keeps the section flowing.

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 16:00:55


When did Legolass become a mod?

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Oh, I see what you did there, you clever bastard.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 16:24:56


Make a Porn Portal.
Give Shadman mod powers.

Newgrounds is saved.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 17:29:20


At 56 minutes ago, test-object wrote: Make a Porn Portal.
Give Shadman mod powers.

Newgrounds is saved.

Lol, Looks like it's time for me to draw more boobs yes? on another note, the redesign is pretty neat. didn't know what hit newgrounds the other day i checked and it was down.


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Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 19:16:00


At 3 hours ago, TomFulp wrote: 1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

4 rows is all well and good, but 5 would make things a little more... comfortable. Not exactly a change that needs to happen, but it'd make navigating the portal a little easier.

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

That does seem a little unfair on the artists. Say someone drew a really good pair of boobs, perfectly sculpted and all, and were excluded from it simply because... yeah that arguments weak and all the tits up there at the moment are crappy anime ones.

Maybe flagging an image for simply being crappy anime tits might be a better idea, in case the picture is M with no tits.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

Thoughts?

Sweet. Loving those last two ideas.

Response to Art Forum Lounge 2012-02-08 19:20:29


At 5 hours ago, TomFulp wrote: 1) Expand Latest Art by one row?

yes definitely.

2) Filter all remaining categories to only show E-T rated content. I gotta admit the amount of boobs changes the vibe... I always go to the Art Portal to see a selection of awesome art, so I don't like people coming and thinking it's just a place for boobs.

maybe give poeple the option, like with the old design, to check on or off the different ratings... dunno so much about this one, I guess it's kinda hard to filter out these voters.

3) Best Art this Year needs adjustment to the sort algorithm. We are weighting things by total votes so brand new submissions can't dominate out the gate, but in this case the views on Madness might bring TOO much weight, although it's a great piece.

I brought this up when the art portal was first introduced and I'll bring it up again cause I still think it's a good idea. Why not have a monthly or 2-weekly gallery showcasing a number of good old and new pics in a certain theme. It'd be up to moderators to select these pieces. That way you get the opportunity to give older/unnoticed stuff some exposure, and the viewer gets to see an interesting collection of work that actually changes more often than every year. Besides; it seems a bit redundant to have best of the year AND best of all time...

At 4 hours ago, TurkeyOnAStick wrote: How about: S(n,s) = C * log_e(n) * s^2

yeah... totally....?

4) Perhaps high ranking classics should be a random assortment of the top 100-200. This could be true for all Portals.

that seems like a good idea


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