At 11/1/09 03:14 PM, Malachy wrote:
Now now I'm sure that it hurt your poor little feelings that somebody made a similar thread to your cherished EGB, but I found the attitudes and actions of some of the members of this club in this thread bordering on getting themselves bans.
Interesting choice of words to start a post. You take it as a fact that the comments made by one person associated with this club are shared by all. You also came to the conclusion that we would be offended by someone starting a club similar to ours.
I respectfully reply that you are incorrect on both assumptions.
Not one of you offered a link to this thread or the NGDD as you so vehemently demanded of the OP to find himself.
That is true, but then only a few members have had a chance to look. In fact, if it wasn't for your post bringing it to our attention, we probably wouldn't have known about it.
As apparent by the OP's reaction to your posts, this is precisely why you shouldn't be twats in other threads. You really shouldn't even post a reply unless you are trying to be helpful and are at least offering a link to where you believe the user should have gone first.
I read through those posts. So, there's a slight disagreement on whether this new club is redundant to the NGPD or the EGB - and that disagreement is voiced by only two people, of which one is a member of the EGB. It did not degrade into serious name calling, and although Porkchop may have been a little rough around the edges, there is no harm in his pointing out that other clubs exist, and this new one could be redundant.
It is not up to you to decide whether a thread in this forum continues or not. It is up to the moderators. Going into a thread to tell a user that his club doesn't belong and then arguing with him over the merits of having such a club is exactly what the intention of the backseat moderating rule is there to keep from happening. Just because you didn't specifically say "lock this" or "this should be locked" does not mean that you didn't do so in as many words with your posts.
What you are perceiving as back-seat modding seems to me to be just some misplaced advice. I seriously doubt Porkchop meant anything other than to point out the possible duplicity of this new club. You are correct in that it is up to the moderators to lock threads and make judgment calls on posts and forums - that is certainly your function. But in this case, I think it was more of a case of misplaced intentions. I know Porkchop, and I seriously doubt he meant to do anything but point out a few facts.
Honestly, if this is the kind of elitist dickery that we have to deal with, perhaps the moderation team should reconsider the validity of these types of clubs. I don't know if it's taking in former NGPD members who got that club locked and a lower standard of member in here or a circle jerk culture of elitist attitudes towards the rest of the site, but if that is how you guys are going to act when a like-club topic is made, it's almost as bad as the squabbling between the anti-anime and anime clubs back in the day.
Elitist dickery? Again, you are judging this crew based on the misinterpretation of one member. I will be the first to admit that we are far from perfect, and the age range of the members in this club goes from 14 to 30+ (and I'm on the high end). With this range, you will get a variety of responses, ranging from youthful exuberance to mature analysis. EagleRock and SlashFirestorm keep a close eye on those who bend or break the rules, and I have seen justice meted out when someone crosses the line. However, when these rare incidents do occur, they are usually handled by PM, e-mail and/or IM directly between the mods and EagleRock and/or SlashForestorm
I'll let EagleRock decide on what to do with toiletpaper and porkchop.
ToiletPaper is not part of the EGB. He drops in once in a while, but he is not a member here.
As for Porkchop, IMHO he's done nothing more serious than give misplaced advice, but yes, EagleRock will take it from here.
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I am sure you will be hearing from EagleRoch shortly.
*Salutes*