At 12/17/20 04:39 AM, Gimmick wrote:
At 12/17/20 02:09 AM, Yomuchan wrote:
Because any reasonable person knows it when they see it. I can accept your premises based on scientific evidence, even if they by and large conflict; that's fine. However, what I take huge issue with is reaching for straws over the other parts, which bring the rest of your arguments into serious question.
At 12/16/20 08:41 PM, Gimmick wrote:
Why do you automatically assume that I'm arguing in bad faith? Because your sources don't hold up? Because ypur petty arguments have run dry?
At 12/16/20 01:54 PM, Yomuchan wrote:
attempts at initial safety precautions were mocked, and the list goes on.I've had enough of this bad faith arguing. You're twisting everything to suit your narrative even if it means grasping at straws. Kindly fuck off.
Maybe Trump was rattled by this case?
Even the rest of your reply is bare nonsense: it is easier for you to accept the existence of a grand conspiracy than the actions of an incompetent government.
It takes two to tango, and I'm done.
And I've pointed out how officials are being incompetent. Glad we agree on that. The only straw-clutching you're seeing here is from the media and their apologists who wanted to shoot nails into the coffin of scientific credibility, but ended up shooting their own foot with the industrial nailgun. And aside from a few people that were labeled 'conspiracy theorists' and disregarded, there was no way to know that a major pandemic was on the horizon. I wish I could have listened in 2017, but hindsight is 20/20.
Also, thanks for pointing this subject out to me - again, it was an interesting read, which brings up several flaws in the political arguments used by people opposed to Trump's administration.
Don't get it yet? I know exactly where this specific point hails from, and why it can be disproved with ease. Ready for it? Hold on to your hat-equivalent because it's going to be spectacular.
Senator. Chris Murphy of Connecticut(D) tweeted this to politicize the pandemic to engage in political mudslinging against a political opponent, but recall that the Predict program was run by government funding, and the job of finalizing how funds are distributed is one of the duties of members of the House of Representatives in the United States House Committee on the Budget.
And what, may I ask, was the house of representatives doing around that time?
Go on. Think.
Nancy Pelosi announces formal impeachment inquiry into Donald Trump over Ukraine scandal.
24 September 2019
So while the house of representatives were touting lies cooked at the behest of their 'leaders' to own drummmmpppffff, the end of the second term for the Predict program was rapidly closing in. While the house of representatives were trying to impeach Trump over what would eventually be a 'nothingburger', the Predict progam's second term came to an end, with no renewal pending from the House of Representatives.
It would be indeed more accurate to say Nancy Pelosi and the house of representatives shut the Predict program down. And again, let me remind you again who was touting falsified data and basically letting a massive pandemic happen because they didn't want to offend the chinese authorities and opposed Trump's (admittedly half-baked) travel ban for political reasons.
I admit that the US government's response is below average, a (4.1 out of 10) - Trump should have had followed the Taiwanese example from the start, or failing that, fielded operatives lurking in obscure imageboards and taking note when the first cases were reported in late november 2019. Unfortunately, for the sake of political mudslinging, the Predict program was ignored while the House of Representatives went around with their nothingburger of an impeachment campaign 2: electric boogaloo.
Now that's more than just incompetence. It strays into malicious territory, in my opinion.
Once I realized that this could be the huge pandemic in the making that amateur biologists and healthcare workers were warning us about for the last two years, I began preparing in mid-late december. Alas, most of us were called 'conspiracy theorists', for making careful plans and stockpiling food, emergency supplies, funds and water while the WHO was in full damage control mode. Then we were called 'racists' by the mainstream for discussing the outbreak. The sheer amount of salt that flows when I flex on them today has to be seen to be believed.
It's true that it takes two to tango, but what you did was stab your credibility with an easily disproved lie. I'm just sitting here watching you make an embarrassment out of yourself. And no, I'm not going to ask you to stop - it's your life, your choice as to what you ultimately do.