At 11/23/18 12:52 AM, IoTheEternal wrote: maybe reevaluate your own standards? You are literally upset because you can't post pictures with people with their arms chopped off. Perhaps you need to set higher drawing goals for yourself?

I mean does newgrounds really need that to be considered "creative"?

OH Come of your goddamn High horse, This is Newgrounds, A Site founded on Edgy shit! If someone what's to post Guro and shit like that, it's up to them to decided whether or not it's appropriate.

The beauty of Newgrounds is the swirling vortex that is the community, I like to characterize newgrounds as a site where you can find porn and spongebob next to each other and sometimes spongebob porn.

If newgrounds ever becomes a place where the rules are we don't want certain kinds of content, It's not longer Newgrounds.

At 11/20/18 03:57 PM, IoTheEternal wrote: I mean I'm all for nakedness but come on - I wanna see some naked males too, if newgrounds is going to maintain its status as a porn site.

But it's not a porn site.
Least I disagree on that notion.

Hello everyone!

Nice to be here and meet you all. Hope to contribute to more topics in the future. Universal blessings!! - JJ

Another Tumblr refugee and a longtime NSFW commissioner and writer.
I really hope to have lengthy stay on this but I am curious to know what's the stance on commissioners posting works that they commissioned here?

I also give proper credit to the artist and colorist first in the pic description section. So I wander if that's standard policy or does NG has stricter restrictions?

It's been a while since I stepped into this place

At 11/22/18 11:48 AM, NekoMika wrote: That reminds me, I saw quite a few topics 2-3 years ago where everyone was whining how soundcloud was falling apart. Seems to still be super active but would be nice to have more musicians here as well.

One of the things that I always come back for is to listen to some random drum and bass music in the AP. There is still some gems there.

At 11/22/18 11:51 AM, SilverDreams wrote: YouTube too

You know how much audio content is wrongfully flagged by Content ID? Quite a bit and it take months to fight something like that just to have it reflagged.

At 11/22/18 11:36 PM, Ryouhiko-Ankuu wrote:

At 11/22/18 09:55 PM, YellowisCOOL wrote:

At 11/22/18 08:14 PM, Eldrik wrote:

At 11/22/18 08:12 PM, Ryouhiko-Ankuu wrote: Okay, so seems like, since this website is still not adult content oriented, if you draw anything but pretty much mainstream vanilla stuff, you have problems. Tumblr refugees still have to cling to tumblr. That's frustrating.

Seems the Honeymoon is over already~ 😂

Newgrounds hosts plenty of adult oriented content, but it's not a porn site. I'm sure there are plenty of other sites out there that host the sort of content you're willing to look at and produce. Newgrounds is Newgrounds, it's not going to become the next Tumblr

My problem is not that I'm expecting Newgrounds to be a porn site, I'm not a porn artist to begin with. The thing is question is, I'm looking for a place which can bear the inconsistency of my artworks - cuz I might draw both sfw pictures and occasional nsfw stuff, be it a sketch or a finished piece, fluffy soft porn or eroguro. So far I only know two websites at least partially able to endure this kind of crap. And judging by what I see in this thread, I can't count on publishing all of my artworks here since Newgrounds kinda accepts adult content, but not quite all of it because of kids looking at such content and random watcher's morality or tastes differing from mine. I mean, it was literally mentioned about "acceptable fetishes" and gore being rather questionable. In this case, a drawing with a naked gal with her arms chopped off is most likely to be reported because of some additional rules. Welp.
I'm neither criticizing nor asking to rewrite the existing, actually written rules here, but I simply feel disappointed my NG gallery is more likely to turn into another clean page and I was way too quick and excited to get here instead of digging a little deeper into the whole acceptability stuff.

Don't fucking listen to loTheEternal, it's not up to him to make the guidelines of what's acceptable or the kind of artwork YOU want to make. If the administration(which he's not) decides against it then that's a different thing, but he's not calling the shots or the authority on the matter. The entire rating system is a guide for how people browse and if some kid intentionally clicks on M/T/A rated content then that's beyond the control of the site or anyone but their parents.

This place has room for different flavors and this guys differing tastes or moral questioning don't guide that, I don't know the extent of what you have to post but I think you should go ahead and post your art on here at your own accord.

At 11/23/18 12:52 AM, IoTheEternal wrote:
maybe reevaluate your own standards? You are literally upset because you can't post pictures with people with their arms chopped off. Perhaps you need to set higher drawing goals for yourself?

I mean does newgrounds really need that to be considered "creative"? Why not just stick to drawing awesome art that is awesome for the sake of being awesome and not because its traumatizing or edgy? There is a reason a lot of that stuff was sorta banished to tumblr, because it's not really accepted other places, and I personally don't think it should become a societal norm to be looking through art galleries and to see that stuff everywhere.

And if newgrounds does put that it should be very very restricted. And as I said before with the thumbnail issue I really don't want newgrounds to become a russian roulette of "is this image I click on going to be something brutally traumatizing that I don't want to see?"

So either newgrounds classifications of things has to change so you can upload that stuff but most of newgrounds is protected from accidentally stumbling upon it, and only those who REALLY want to see it can search for it, or you need to go elsewhere, or re-evaluate what motivates you to make such disturbing art and be upset that you can't post it here. There has to be some sort of standards.

Also if you just want to use newgrounds to share works with your friends but not publish it just use the dumping grounds function - you can upload it there and link people to it and only they can see it.

Dude fuck off with your authoritative bullshit and telling people what to do, you were griping about that shit in the old NG server and you're still here pestering new people with your ultra high standards and preachy horseshit.

If you aren't looking for adult stuff, don't go in the adult tag. Simple

I'm sorry the art portal isn't up to your standards of the "good old days" and you don't like seeing art of women all the time, but it's not your call on what other artists decide to make and why, so long as nothing violates the site rules and stays up then leave it be. Your whole thing about "kids browsing the site", maybe their fucking parents should be responsible for what the hell theyre up to online instead of everyone in the world concerning themselves with kids that dont follow the rules and ratings.

Well, perfect timing for this meme then.

At 11/23/18 09:49 PM, hiperpot001 wrote: It's been a while since I stepped into this place

same here, i had gone and made my new acc at the start of the year so that i could have another place to post stuff ...before i eventually forgot about it

guess i'll be using it after all ! good to be back =]

Haven't been to newgrounds in like forever. honestly I'm glad to be back.

At 11/23/18 01:08 PM, Hesiolite wrote: Almost more than 50 % of the stuff I've seen in the art portal is NSFW. My kids we'll love it !

We have had many new great artists submitting plenty of NSFW art. Sit back and enjoy it all.

At 11/23/18 11:05 AM, TomFulp wrote:

At 11/22/18 12:32 PM, V-Sarg wrote: Eh...Lewd and arousing aspects of drawings might differ from person to person. I'd like to ask as one of those who was purged from Tumblr - how far is it possible to safely push boundaries of degeneracy exactly? Can I host here some neutering, CBT, amputee drawings at most? Or I should just limit myself with themes and fetishes that considered to be traditionally acceptable on this site?

I don't like to promote Newgrounds as an "anything goes" website nowadays because of some of the personality types that attitude has attracted over the years but for the most part, NG is very open and accommodating and that sort of material should be ok if it steers away from involving kids, racism, homophobia and personally threatening individuals.

Reading some of the concerns in this thread I am hopeful we can expand on the filtering options, especially if content like this becomes more prevalent. People on NG used to push these boundaries more back in the day but that has cooled down a lot over the years, maybe because there were better platforms to share it on, I don't know.

Now. I'm against all gore but that's not why I'm responding to this. With Tumblr slowly purging itself and it being my home for the last 5 or so years. I'd love to start using Newsgrounds (I was too young when it was in the big big heyday of flash animations and stuff to really hang around here and be comfortable.)

I've noticed in the last few days of trying to migrate some art (not even worried about whatever all this scouted stuff is) In the opening 3-4 days of posting... I've noticed posts ragging on just the fandom I've chosen as my home. not even the quality of the art (I know I'm not amazing but the fact I get 500$ commissions if I work hard enough tells me I'm not complete garbage). im getting 0 stars once or twice just cause of what I chose as a output and the people doing it have been rating stuff long enough that votes from people I know are fans are barely doing anything.

Not worried about being deleted as much as what this ultimately is doing as a first impression. I'm wondering if there is a chance at a black list system? Much like other art sites do. Have tags on things that you can block so it wont appear in your feed or searchs. I'm more then willing to ignore content. But some users can't and rate things that they unconditionally hate. Figured maybe blocking people can block them from seeing your content but I realize that can very fast become overpowered in making people block only negative votes so shit content can stick around... This site feels very oddly balanced. Dunno if anything will really change but its less then inviting so far. :c

(Sorry if anything I brought up is already been covered in this forum. I don't read every response or have a lot of time to dig >~<)

At 11/23/18 09:30 PM, SLIM2k6 wrote: Another Tumblr refugee and a longtime NSFW commissioner and writer.
I really hope to have lengthy stay on this but I am curious to know what's the stance on commissioners posting works that they commissioned here?

I also give proper credit to the artist and colorist first in the pic description section. So I wander if that's standard policy or does NG has stricter restrictions?

This is an evolving area because traditionally we ask that the artist themselves publish their art here but we also don't want to discourage all the active commissioners who have been coming over.

Our goal is to get co-authoring added to the Art Portal, at which point it would be ideal if both the Commissioner and Artist are credited on each piece. In the meantime, it's preferred that the artist publishes the piece and links the commissioner in their commentary but we won't remove a piece that is posted by the commissioner, as long as the proper crediting is including in the commentary.

Good news everyone!

@TomFulp

Thank you for responding and explaining the situation about this topic. I have so many great commissioned works, from so many great artist, that will help bring in more members to this platform!

Out of all the tumblr artists, why couldn't https://www.tumblr.com/tagged/hopebiscuit leave Tumblr
Her Gijinka/Anthropomorphization(hope i am getting this correctly) art was great.

At 11/23/18 01:46 PM, TheTenk wrote: Glad to see a website hold a good attitude, incredibly rare in 2018. If I get enough of a following I'll join up as a supporter.

NewGrounds has always had a good attitude about art and animations. You can find several great reviewers that will be happy to check out your creations.

At 11/23/18 12:51 PM, SquizofrenicCat wrote: One way to deal with things you don't want to see, is suggest tagging and blacklisting of said tags. Not attempting to sway people to stop doing stuff here.

Isn't that exactly why a lot of these NSFW artists are leaving Tumblr? Because you can't search for NSFW content. This would be falling into the exact same trap and it would only ruin NG's reputation.

At 11/24/18 02:53 PM, TheReviewTrickster wrote:

At 11/23/18 12:51 PM, SquizofrenicCat wrote: One way to deal with things you don't want to see, is suggest tagging and blacklisting of said tags. Not attempting to sway people to stop doing stuff here.

Isn't that exactly why a lot of these NSFW artists are leaving Tumblr? Because you can't search for NSFW content. This would be falling into the exact same trap and it would only ruin NG's reputation.

I think squizofreniccat meant like, personal settings kinda stuff, like how you can block users, you could block tags or certain content so they never appear in your feed or browsing. Wouldn't make them invisible site-wide, which is what Tumblr did. Catering to personal preferences is nice, carpet-bombing censorship isn't.

Newgrounds and their business strategy of "Waiting until our competitors commit suicide" seems to be working?!?

Also Hi Tom, thanks for literally being one of the last cool kids on the internet.

At 11/24/18 03:46 AM, DoctorStrongbad wrote:

We have had many new great artists submitting plenty of NSFW art. Sit back and enjoy it all.

You bet I will Doctor !

At 11/24/18 03:33 PM, Eldrik wrote:

At 11/24/18 02:53 PM, TheReviewTrickster wrote:

At 11/23/18 12:51 PM, SquizofrenicCat wrote: One way to deal with things you don't want to see, is suggest tagging and blacklisting of said tags. Not attempting to sway people to stop doing stuff here.

Isn't that exactly why a lot of these NSFW artists are leaving Tumblr? Because you can't search for NSFW content. This would be falling into the exact same trap and it would only ruin NG's reputation.

I think squizofreniccat meant like, personal settings kinda stuff, like how you can block users, you could block tags or certain content so they never appear in your feed or browsing. Wouldn't make them invisible site-wide, which is what Tumblr did. Catering to personal preferences is nice, carpet-bombing censorship isn't.

That's what I'd like to see! I like opt-out options a lot more than having things blocked by default. I find sites that hide content requiring users to go into options to turn on the ability to see it just results in that content struggling from lack of exposure (furry art being filtered out by default on Hentai-Foundry, for example).

Having a toggle to just flip between SFW and NSFW mode is a nice feature I see more sites doing. The new Deviant Art Eclipse that's in beta has that feature as does Fur Affinity. Tumblr kind of does, too, but they just set it to make all NSFW content invisible from searches, as you said. *shakes fist*

I'm excited to be in a community here that doesn't just block art by default! I would support an opt-out option to filter tags, that way users can customize their experience without pushing away certain content.

At 11/22/18 05:44 AM, Dunso wrote: Regarding thumbnails, maybe some sort of image hover function would work? Like a small version of the whole image showing up when you hover over the thumbnail.

I don't know shit about web development though, maybe it would be a nightmare.

That would be absolutely great nonetheless. Fingers crossed.

At 11/24/18 05:35 PM, Rad wrote: Newgrounds and their business strategy of "Waiting until our competitors commit suicide" seems to be working?!?

Also Hi Tom, thanks for literally being one of the last cool kids on the internet.

It's a two pronged approach: We continually make NG better AND wait for our competitors to commit suicide.

Warm welcome to all the new degenerates. ' v '

At 11/22/18 11:43 AM, TomFulp wrote: For games and movies we use the term "Sponsor", would that sound like a good credit type for the person who funded the piece, or is "Commissioner" or "Commissioned by" preferred?

"Commissioner" and "Commissioned by" are preferred. That's the wording popularly used. Using sponsorship terms would be off-putting...

At 11/23/18 09:03 PM, JJAngelus wrote: Hello everyone!

Hello JJAngelus.

Nice to be here and meet you all. Hope to contribute to more topics in the future. Universal blessings!! - JJ

Enjoy being here on NewGrounds.

At 11/23/18 09:30 PM, SLIM2k6 wrote: Another Tumblr refugee and a longtime NSFW commissioner and writer.

Welcome to the best website on the Internet.

FASCINATING

At 11/23/18 08:31 AM, TomFulp wrote: For art browsing itself, we plan to replace the current system with one that uses our Elasticsearch cluster, which is really great for giving people filtered / sorted results. At this point I think it would be really cool if we let people choose from three layouts:

1) Classic Grid, when you want to just eyeball tons of art at once.
2) Instagram-style grid, with larger thumbnails. More scrolling but everything gets more real estate.
3) Feed style, where you see full art piece and can just scroll forever.

I guess my vote would go on 2
I'm unfamiliar with instagram, but scrolling forever is what kills option 3 for me. There needs to prompt to go to the next page at some point.