How's progress, everyone?

I seem to have found myself with a two-part piece; I'm stuck on the first part and I've almost finished Part 2. Strange, but hey.

How's progress, everyone?

Great...totally got my second piece finished. Aaaaaand totally lost in the first round! *sniff* I've...I've got something in my eye...*sniffle*...I'm totally NOT a little bitch! *sniff*

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

I seem to have found myself with a two-part piece; I'm stuck on the first part and I've almost finished Part 2. Strange, but hey.

I made some leaps and bounds today. I couldn't go to work today since my radiator took a dump and I took the time to get a good couple of minutes in place. I don't have percussion yet which feels kinda weird, but they'll go in eventually when I get more time next week.

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

I seem to have found myself with a two-part piece; I'm stuck on the first part and I've almost finished Part 2. Strange, but hey.

Wow you already started. Our submission will have to wait until next week, but we LOVE the pressure :D

At 8/27/14 01:18 PM, Ceevro wrote:

Great...totally got my second piece finished. Aaaaaand totally lost in the first round! *sniff* I've...I've got something in my eye...*sniffle*...I'm totally NOT a little bitch! *sniff*

That sucks. I feel bad for winning now. I still wouldn't mind hearing your piece though.

At 8/27/14 01:18 PM, Ceevro wrote:

And then I realized you posted it already. I feel silly

That sucks. I feel bad for winning now. I still wouldn't mind hearing your piece though.

Don't feel bad, dude. You clearly won, and I'm cool with that. You can just click my name...it's the first track on there (I won't link it here...you know why). I had a lot of fun making it, at least. That's the important part, I think.

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

pretty good

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

Progress on what?

I'm supposed to be doing something..?

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At 8/28/14 08:50 PM, johnfn wrote:

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

Progress on what?

I'm supposed to be doing something..?

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No.

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

Slow and full of writers block :D

I decided to opt in for a sleep deprivation study next week at Uni so I'm trying to get most of it written before then.

I'm just writing chords. This piece is turning out to be far simpler in instrumentation and everything else than I expected, and this is worrying me a bit.

At 8/29/14 01:55 PM, Troisnyx wrote: This piece is turning out to be far simpler in instrumentation and everything else than I expected, and this is worrying me a bit.

That is my greatest fear - instrumentation being too simple! I feel like what I'm writing is a lot simpler than it was for round 1. I am hoping to flesh mine out though.

At 8/29/14 02:06 PM, Jay-Turner wrote:

At 8/29/14 01:55 PM, Troisnyx wrote: This piece is turning out to be far simpler in instrumentation and everything else than I expected, and this is worrying me a bit.

That is my greatest fear - instrumentation being too simple! I feel like what I'm writing is a lot simpler than it was for round 1. I am hoping to flesh mine out though.

I suppose sometimes 'simple' works, but the trouble with me is that my complexities are too subtle. Things like chord changes and progressions, little passing notes, things that would look amazing on sheet, but seem so watered down when I actually look at my FLP and see just how sparsely noted it is.

Simple may not necessarily mean bad! SilverPoyozo's score was 9th highest out of all 61 scores, and his track was just piano and strings. ProudAardvark won a previous NGADM with a piano-only track too. It depends on how you approach it in my opinion. Simple can easily sound bland, so you need to embellish it with enough subtleties or complex composition to avoid that.

At 8/29/14 02:13 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 8/29/14 02:06 PM, Jay-Turner wrote:

At 8/29/14 01:55 PM, Troisnyx wrote: This piece is turning out to be far simpler in instrumentation and everything else than I expected, and this is worrying me a bit.

That is my greatest fear - instrumentation being too simple! I feel like what I'm writing is a lot simpler than it was for round 1. I am hoping to flesh mine out though.

I suppose sometimes 'simple' works, but the trouble with me is that my complexities are too subtle. Things like chord changes and progressions, little passing notes, things that would look amazing on sheet, but seem so watered down when I actually look at my FLP and see just how sparsely noted it is.

'Simple' does work, I'm trying to keep my melodies simpler to create more motifs for this round. But it is nice to add colour with those complex subtleties. But I know the feeling. For me at the moment I'm working with lots of layers of instrumentation but I'm trying to balance it so that it doesn't sound as complicated as it is almost (so its easier to listen to). Its that balance that I'm struggling with right now.

At 8/29/14 02:23 PM, Step wrote: Simple may not necessarily mean bad! SilverPoyozo's score was 9th highest out of all 61 scores, and his track was just piano and strings. ProudAardvark won a previous NGADM with a piano-only track too. It depends on how you approach it in my opinion. Simple can easily sound bland, so you need to embellish it with enough subtleties or complex composition to avoid that.

Silverpoyozos track may have been simple but the chord progression was interesting and well orchestrated. But in general people are too much impressed by the combination of simple piano tracks with much reverb and dont understand that in most cases its badly crafted, structured and overrated trash - even many like it since movies like the trueman show. Also noone seems to care in general if the composer understands just anything concerning the piano as an instrument which drives me as a pianoman really mad. Not everything which is a piano combined with a few verb effects and slow movement is good.

In Silverpoyozos case it was very good since he really showed that he understood the whole composition very well, nothing happened by accident, he had a good and elaborated concept which he consequently followed and also the orchestration was beautiful. But this is one of the rare cases someone showed a good emotional piano track. One of the guys who really do awesome stuff is @BlazingDragon - i always respected him very much with his piano pieces. But there are a lot of musicians - some even have hundreds of fans - who always use piano + strings, noone seems to notice how aweful this is but people love it nevertheless.

So when it comes to the piano: People plz try to hold back with the cliche that slow + reverb is good and try to analyze whats going on in the composition. Complexity shouldnt be underrated. In most cases its just superior.

@SilverPoyozo : It has been an honor to be grouped with you and i really enjoyed your composition!

At 8/27/14 08:18 AM, Troisnyx wrote: How's progress, everyone?

Somewhat found my footing...I think. I'm about 1:56min in, I just spent about 5 hours on 4 bars lol (been just over 12 hours so far). But yeah intro and establishment is pretty much done. Onto the main course. Not doing a trailer-esk type of piece this time, that's all I'm gonna say.

At 8/29/14 03:19 PM, PeterSatera wrote: that's all I'm gonna say.

its ok. i spent over 30 hours on mine.

It's quite normal for me to spend 30 hours on a track, between composing, recording and mixing there's a ton of stuff to do. At least you know you've given it your all!

Yeah, I'll probably hit that mark. Haven't got any percussion in so I need to go back too. keeping an eye on the counter. Seems like everyone is really pushing themselves again. :)

Intense!

At 8/29/14 03:14 PM, SoundChris wrote: But this is one of the rare cases someone showed a good emotional piano track. One of the guys who really do awesome stuff is @BlazingDragon - i always respected him very much with his piano pieces. But there are a lot of musicians - some even have hundreds of fans - who always use piano + strings, noone seems to notice how aweful this is but people love it nevertheless.

Awww, you make me feel so appreciated. :)

I totally agree with your point, BTW. There are a lot of poorly done piano and string pieces out there, especially ones that take a few root position triads and arpeggiate them over five minutes. :/

Structure done; recording started. Piece is now at its final length of 5'30"-something.

At 8/31/14 07:10 AM, Troisnyx wrote: Structure done; recording started. Piece is now at its final length of 5'30"-something.

Nice progress. When do you think you'll be done for?

At 8/31/14 12:23 PM, PeterSatera wrote:

At 8/31/14 07:10 AM, Troisnyx wrote: Structure done; recording started. Piece is now at its final length of 5'30"-something.

Nice progress. When do you think you'll be done for?

Can't say I know for certain. This piece has no lyrics, but is vocal-intensive nonetheless, and is the first such piece in my personal ADM history. Did my first phase of recording yesterday night (and admittedly, it creeped me out). Vocals are far from done, then I've a glockenspiel to record, various household objects, a bit more instrument layering where necessary, and finally, mixing.

I hope to get the recording out of the way soon, because at my current skill level, I'd take a while to mix.

At 8/31/14 02:26 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

Can't say I know for certain. This piece has no lyrics, but is vocal-intensive nonetheless, and is the first such piece in my personal ADM history. Did my first phase of recording yesterday night (and admittedly, it creeped me out). Vocals are far from done, then I've a glockenspiel to record, various household objects, a bit more instrument layering where necessary, and finally, mixing.

I havent even started to think which genre to compose in :3 I guess i will start tomorrow!

At 8/31/14 03:05 PM, SoundChris wrote: I havent even started to think which genre to compose in :3 I guess i will start tomorrow!

Crikey now, this is getting on a week!

At 8/31/14 03:50 PM, Troisnyx wrote:

At 8/31/14 03:05 PM, SoundChris wrote: I havent even started to think which genre to compose in :3 I guess i will start tomorrow!

Crikey now, this is getting on a week!

Yeah but a week is a lot of time. Also i am someone who prefers to work under pressure. Usually i am better that way and the motivation is high :) Last year most stuff for the NGADM was done in 2 days. This time i will take it more serious!

At 8/31/14 03:55 PM, SoundChris wrote: Yeah but a week is a lot of time. Also i am someone who prefers to work under pressure. Usually i am better that way and the motivation is high :) Last year most stuff for the NGADM was done in 2 days. This time i will take it more serious!

Fly swift and sure then.