I was last time around a abstract artist, I just drew non-sense, I got bored, tried to draw people and automaticly lost my scouting because of how basic I was at it. So I sort of return hoping maybe my skills are close enough to acceptable on this site now.
Comments?
Also this.
Trying to get to the quality level magicly known as being scouted.
Being scouted is still based on the preferences of who scouted you, not really any kind of artistic worth or quality. Recently a mod scouted a user that only posted ms paint scribbles of fruit with nonsensical captions. He happened to like it alot so he scouted them. Work on the general likability of your figures or drawings and youll get in. I suggest copying some sort of popular style or drawing porn, that always seems to work.
At 8/6/13 12:42 PM, Template88 wrote: Being scouted is still based on the preferences of who scouted you, not really any kind of artistic worth or quality. Recently a mod scouted a user that only posted ms paint scribbles of fruit with nonsensical captions. He happened to like it alot so he scouted them. Work on the general likability of your figures or drawings and youll get in. I suggest copying some sort of popular style or drawing porn, that always seems to work.
Hm, thats a shame I heard they had reworked the scouting system. Oh well, I am just annoyed with the 20 image limit.
At 8/6/13 12:42 PM, Template88 wrote: Recently a mod scouted a user that only posted ms paint scribbles of fruit with nonsensical captions.
"Hey, you know that ONE exception that happened?
Yeah, well that's the WHOLE PORTAL! Everything is MS PAINT SCRIBBLES!
THE SYSTEM SUCKS!
EVERYTHING IS MSPAINT!!
FIGHT THE MACHINE!!!!
NOTHING IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!"
At 8/6/13 12:59 PM, CankerousKitty wrote:At 8/6/13 12:42 PM, Template88 wrote: Recently a mod scouted a user that only posted ms paint scribbles of fruit with nonsensical captions."Hey, you know that ONE exception that happened?
Yeah, well that's the WHOLE PORTAL! Everything is MS PAINT SCRIBBLES!
THE SYSTEM SUCKS!
EVERYTHING IS MSPAINT!!
FIGHT THE MACHINE!!!!
NOTHING IS BEAUTIFUL!!!!!!"
I don't think its qute that bad there are still plenty of pretty amazing art thrown in with the horrible, also in theory you can draw nice things with paint.....it just requires more effort then its worth.
At 8/7/13 01:38 AM, Zolen wrote: MORE of the crap I draw.
I like that. I like that a lot. Creative idea.
One thing you should try straying away from are bold outlines when shading and coloring
I can try to go over your work and what I see in it that keeps me from scouting you, if that helps. Mind you, everyone has different taste and sets the bar slightly differently, but here's my take as an example.
Looking at your work, I do see a lot of improvement, but I like to look for four good works and I'm still not seeing them. The twitter logo is neat conceptually, but it's based heavily on the original twitter logo and the linework for the bird is not smooth.
The slime piece shows progress- the figure shows skill, but you haven't tackled a setting and there's what looks like left over anti-aliasing around the figure from when you drew it initially on a white background- if that's on purpose, i don't know why. In addition, you've drawn it with a vary narrow value range.
The avatar piece shows you have some basic rendering skills, but again shows no ability to integrate a figure in a setting. The neck anatomy is whack, not that i get a feel that you're aiming for realism. No sense of lighting.
Both the pieces done in traditional media, the landscape and the santa, look like you spent less than five minutes on them. I assume the rest are the abstract pieces you mentioned and it sounds like you've gotten feedback on them before, so I'll skip that facet.
You might find this tutorial on shading and contrast useful.
http://www.learning-to-see.co.uk/images/loomis-planes.jpg Andrew Loomis is your GO TO guy for faces. To give you faces depth and dimension you need to know the basic planes.
Refer to this tutorial from bluefly too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4dhgstF1A0
Other Youtube Personalities to Lookout for for good Instruction are:
Sycra
Sinix
ProkoTV
Scott Robertson
Matt Khor (Ctrl Paint)
Bobby Chiu
Feng Zhu (Environmental Painting)
They really go into detail what you should be working on to really bring out the most in your drawings! :D Hope this helps!
At 8/7/13 03:12 AM, lovingthedark wrote: I can try to go over your work and what I see in it that keeps me from scouting you, if that helps. Mind you, everyone has different taste and sets the bar slightly differently, but here's my take as an example.
Looking at your work, I do see a lot of improvement, but I like to look for four good works and I'm still not seeing them. The twitter logo is neat conceptually, but it's based heavily on the original twitter logo and the linework for the bird is not smooth.
The slime piece shows progress- the figure shows skill, but you haven't tackled a setting and there's what looks like left over anti-aliasing around the figure from when you drew it initially on a white background- if that's on purpose, i don't know why. In addition, you've drawn it with a vary narrow value range.
The avatar piece shows you have some basic rendering skills, but again shows no ability to integrate a figure in a setting. The neck anatomy is whack, not that i get a feel that you're aiming for realism. No sense of lighting.
Both the pieces done in traditional media, the landscape and the santa, look like you spent less than five minutes on them. I assume the rest are the abstract pieces you mentioned and it sounds like you've gotten feedback on them before, so I'll skip that facet.
You might find this tutorial on shading and contrast useful.
Thank you, seems from how you went over this your a bit of a long time pro in art.
I do have a forth recent work, but its still being finished, which would fall into wondering how go I am at puting a character to a setting.
Now in order of your judgements:
True, time limit of a day, and took part of the original icon, was planning to make it look like it was being pulled off the page but ran out of time when exparamenting, I failed. This was actually the oldest of the list of things I have drawn recently, strangly you went in order of oldest to newist.
I can explain that white line, it was in fact intentinal, back in highschool my teacher gave the advice to outline a character if I can't figure a background, make it easier to pull it out of the piece and drop in another later on. He was wrong but I sort of got in the habit of doing that for work that I can't think of a background at the time. Then later I gave up on making as background. True, I tried but I just don't know, it took me a day or more to figure out how to color as well as I did, I figured drawing a slime monster would help me learn a bit more in color complexity over all, yet everything ended up flat.
Two things I always try to avoid details on the neck, and details of the hands, all my attempts to line art for hands mess up because of complexity, on the neck, I just can't figure out where to put the lines.
Landscape: 20 min
Santa: 2 min
It helped me learn some new terms, but as to if it helped my shading, I need to draw something to see if anything it says actually stuck (if that makes sense), thank you for the guide.
@ imcostalong: Hm, thats a full list for everything, probably going to loose a few hours to this.
i like the effect of hte white line, i see how it could be distorting, but i think you should run with that maybe make it so the slime monster is in a dark cave and have the light represent a glow effect on the slime maybe from whatever its presumab ly going to attack (say lava or some sort of glowing chrystal on a person?
I dont have time for a signature, TO THE INTERNET!!!!!
Hm, added on question:
I seem to have been scouted anyone (need to accept first). But before I think to accept, I must ask, how harsh are people voting now adays?
At 8/9/13 03:23 AM, Zolen wrote: Hm, added on question:
I seem to have been scouted anyone (need to accept first). But before I think to accept, I must ask, how harsh are people voting now adays?
Numbers don't matter. If all that's keeping you from entering the art portal is fear of a low number score then I don't think you're confident enough in your work yourself.
That being said, I seem to agree with a lot of the ratings my work gets as well as a good amount of the other work in the portal (save for the fanart and huge tits that get high scores regardless of actual quality).
At 8/6/13 12:42 PM, Template88 wrote: Being scouted is still based on the preferences of who scouted you, not really any kind of artistic worth or quality. Recently a mod scouted a user that only posted ms paint scribbles of fruit with nonsensical captions.
Yo that ms paint guy was frickin cool don't hate.
Dr. Spedmund McMallet
At 8/9/13 04:23 AM, JackDGreatest wrote:At 8/9/13 03:23 AM, Zolen wrote: Hm, added on question:Numbers don't matter. If all that's keeping you from entering the art portal is fear of a low number score then I don't think you're confident enough in your work yourself.
I seem to have been scouted anyone (need to accept first). But before I think to accept, I must ask, how harsh are people voting now adays?
That being said, I seem to agree with a lot of the ratings my work gets as well as a good amount of the other work in the portal (save for the fanart and huge tits that get high scores regardless of actual quality).
Well I DID loose it last time for the same exact stuff that I am doing now, (Drawing people, not talking about my actual skill) so of course I would worry to some extent at if I would just loose it as soon as I accept the scout offer.
Now for things that I might never finish because I keep procrastinating.
