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Conquest of the Uncharted


Author Comments

Well then.

This is my first real attempt at orchestral music.
You might want to increase your volume slightly; I have yet to learn how to make a loud but clean mix.

First off, I want to thank the people that convinced me (actively or passively) to buy EWQL Symphonic Orchestra! I've had lots of fun working with it these past days :D

As you can probably easily notice, this track is HUGELY inspired by the music made by @Step (even if it isn't even close to reaching the level of awesomeness in his tracks).

I was also inpired by tons of other people, including but definitely not limited to @Mattashi and @Dem0lecule.
Seriously, if I had to name everyone on Newgrounds that made me want to aim high and compose orchestral tracks, I could easily come up with 20 names off the top of my head, so if you think you might be among such people, you most certainly are.

Now, this is just a practice track, even if I spent a lot of time on it. I didn't aim to make it sound realistic or anything like that. I wanted to try out most of the basic features of EWQLSO, which is why the structure makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. This also explains why there are so many transitions so close to one another; I don't have all the time in the world, but I wanted to do a lot of different stuff :3

This track also features a not so smooth transition between time signatures...

As you will notice, the mixing is pretty terrible. I will still have to practise for many years before I can learn to get it anywhere close to a level of quality. I used too much reverb, and I crammed some places far too full with none sense making EQing.

I wish I was good with percussion :/ I guess it'll take quite a few years for me to grasp that too XD

My melodies, chords and arrangements (well, everything) in this track were all made on the fly, so they are not too impressive. I still like some of the segments though! :D

I had quite an irritating amount of technical difficulties when making this. The most irritating of all is that all the panning in Cubase is reversed for me! And I can't find the issue o.O My inputs and outputs are all right :/
Basically, I had to pan everything in reverse, and it sounded wrong while I was making it, so I had to hope for the best (as the rendered version came out with the right panning). From now on, unless I find a solution, I'm just going to pretend that left is right, and vice versa, and just stereo flip the track afterwards
That's way easier.


Also, my intruments had a tendency to get stuck all the time, which wasn't too pleasant, as I had to go change the channel and change it back to get them to work again.
The Steinway B piano also was a bit weird; it sounds great, but it didn't do well with quanticed notes, nor too fast ones either, but perhaps that is just because of my setup?

Also, I still have a limited version of Cubase, so I had to create and export this in 3 different rounds (my version comes with a limitation of 16 vst intruments at the most). On the last round, I used some MIDI ports though, as an additional 8 of those are allowed, and EWQLSO works quite well in that mode.
I also had to render half of the intruments at a time, as they were at the verge of demanding too much of my computer. Fun stuff.

Other than that, I guess that everything is fine :) I think I already learned some things! Now I've got a lot of other stuff to do...
Oh, and as this was mostly for practice, I had to do a very none fitting, johnfnesque ending ;) (+ points to those who get it).


This track was made entirely by using 'East West Quantum Leap Symphonic Orchestra Silver Edition', with some compression, distortion and equalizing in Cubase.


P.S: Sorry Dem0lecule; I needed to get this out of my system before I could focus on our collab :p

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First of all, I like the mood a lot. I think the strings should've been EQ'd more, though, especially towards the high end, because it sounds a little harsh up there, which is most notable towards the beginning of the piece IMO. Also, the section from around 1:00 to 1:23 is pretty muddy. SINGLE MOST HELPFUL MIXING TIP EVER: get rid of all of the tones below 200 Hertz in everything except the bass and kick (and, in fact, most of your pieces don't seem to have a bass and kick). Otherwise, I admired the structure and progression (as usual), and I think orchestral music could suit your compositional abilities quite nicely. Until you become the lead conductor of a major symphonic orchestra, though, you might need to focus on your mixing. ;) Keep at it, LSD! ^^

LucidShadowDreamer responds:

Oh, another one already? Cool!
Yeah, the mixing in this one sucks pretty badly XD It was just a project for fun though. I'm actually releasing a new full orchestral piece this week, and it has slightly improved mixing (still pretty bad though)! If I keep this up, I'll be able to mix properly in about 5 years or so ;)

Well, I think the strings should've been EQ'd differently, but not more (and I'm pretty sure that it should be lessened in the high end if it is harsh, though I might be wrong of course).


=> Yup. It's super muddy, but actually, the entire piece is pretty muddy; it's waaaayyy too wet!

Heh, I have an even greater mixing tip though: EQ sweeps. Nuff said. I'm pretty sure I didn't use it enough when mixing this. Also, I think that it's very relative whether you should remove everything below 200 hertz, as several string instruments have their very nice sounds around those frequencies (a cello, as an example you might be familiar with, can sound pretty nice down there. Perhaps you count that as bass, but there are strings that play in higher octaves that have a nice sound surprisingly low on the scale too). Most of my issues lies in horrible percussion mixing, and way too unrestricted reverb/wetness. For the next orchestral track (as apart from the one I will soon upload), I will probably try to look more at that! :D

I think that Orchestral music is actually a pretty suiting genre for me indeed, as I listen to it quite a lot, due to movies, games, classical music and such :)

Thanks again! I will definitely focus on my mixing, as it is perhaps my weakest area!

I'm happy. I'm looking forward to more. Some of the instruments are very strangely muddy. Particularly the flute. Grats on your purchase. ^^

Also, why do people always put the TL;DR section at the end? It's like... "/now/ you tell me?!" :P

LucidShadowDreamer responds:

Thank you! The muddiness is because of my poor and rushed mixing :D

People put TL;DR at the end because it's like a summary. It'd be weird to have it in the beginning. Also, if you read the whole thing, you're not the one that TL;DR is directed to, as it's for those who don't want to read and skip to the end :3

This is very well arranged and I really like the changes, nothing really shouts at me, which is nice, because I want to close my eyes and enjoy it. :D
I like 1:25 outro, the soft brass brings a nice touch...this track is absolutely awesome, but more importantly.. REALLY MAKES ME WANNA BUY EWQL!!! XD

LucidShadowDreamer responds:

Oh, I'm sorry! I forgot to reply to this review until now D:
Thanks a lot for the encouraging words ;)

Yeah, EWQL is really great :D
Once I get more time, I'll experiment with it more XD

This is awesome!

LucidShadowDreamer responds:

Thank you!

You made it throught pretty nicely even with all of those technical difficulties.
I'm a fan of more action packed music, but I like this piece for its huge amount of creativity. ;)

LucidShadowDreamer responds:

Thanks Deshiel!
Yeah. There's always some way to get around them, but I'll definitely upgrade my version of Cubase at some point, as it would save me so much trouble :)

Credits & Info

4.62 / 5.00

Mar 12, 2015
10:26 PM EDT
File Info
1.9 MB
2 min 6 sec

Licensing Terms

Please contact me if you would like to use this in a project. We can discuss the details.