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Posted at: 4/2/09 07:18 AM

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At 4/2/09 03:58 AM, The777Demon wrote: Am i allowed to flag all of the abusive reviews from Aprils fools day?

Just because april fools day, doesn't mean rules are out the window. Just I would imagine more spam submissions than usual, so just use your best judgement.

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Posted at: 4/3/09 05:41 PM

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At 4/3/09 05:38 PM, InnerChild548 wrote: What if the review is positive, but it is written entirely in CAPS.

Writing in caps does not automatically make a review abusive, so no.

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At 4/3/09 05:38 PM, InnerChild548 wrote: What if the review is positive, but it is written entirely in CAPS.

this exact question was already answered...

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Posted at: 4/4/09 10:47 AM

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I have a new question. The review guidelines seem a little dated. Since many users refer to the FAQ and wouldn't know or even think they would have to look in the forums for additional rules that are not in the guidelines, Is there any chance of an update that includes these rules.

The whistle status Part of the faq also refers to the old system we had before the redesign back in 2007 when we could see the number of people who flagged the reviews.

I also have a suggestion. Because so many people are getting garbage whistle by flagging older reviews which is not even stated in the FAQ at all, Wouldn't it make sense and possibly save everyone a lot of trouble just to delete those reviews without rewarding points? It makes more sense than always clearing the same reviews over and over and would probably save you all quite a bit of stress.

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With the advent of medal points, a lot of reviews are cropping up that are just merely "walkthroughs" or "strategy guides" for submissions. This is rather common for games with medals in which you merely have to type words to get points.

My question is are these reviews considered abusive? My rational is that they are often (1) cut-and-pasted and (2) are not actually reviewing the submission.

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Posted at: 4/4/09 07:15 PM

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At 4/4/09 10:47 AM, The777Demon wrote: I have a new question. The review guidelines seem a little dated. Since many users refer to the FAQ and wouldn't know or even think they would have to look in the forums for additional rules that are not in the guidelines, Is there any chance of an update that includes these rules.

The review moderators are moderating based off of the review guidelines found in the FAQ, not any other sort of secret set of rules. This thread is here because the guidelines could never fully cover all instances which would cause a review to be deleted, and since you don't get a personal message from a review moderator unless you are receiving a review ban, this is a good place to bring your reviews you've had deleted and ask what rules it was breaking.

The whistle status Part of the faq also refers to the old system we had before the redesign back in 2007 when we could see the number of people who flagged the reviews.

that was also a bit misleading, as that was simply a x/y of how many people found the review helpful/unhelpful. The numbers were skewed because people flagging reviews was counted as an "unhelpful", the new system is still the same sort of idea, in that if people flag your review or mark it as unhelpful, you will get a message saying "people find your review useless".

But alas, we are merely moderators and cannot edit the FAQ.

I also have a suggestion. Because so many people are getting garbage whistle by flagging older reviews which is not even stated in the FAQ at all, Wouldn't it make sense and possibly save everyone a lot of trouble just to delete those reviews without rewarding points? It makes more sense than always clearing the same reviews over and over and would probably save you all quite a bit of stress.

I have no idea where you got this misinformation but you will never, EVER receive negative points from flagging an abusive review which happens to be old.

If you are referring to some of us trying to guide Rage's abusive review thread to be less a cesspit of rabid statwhoring and more a helpful tool for us, we may have asked that people refrain from linking to old reviews, but we have never penalized people for flagging old reviews.

At 4/4/09 01:47 PM, zimzap wrote: My question is are these reviews considered abusive? My rational is that they are often (1) cut-and-pasted and (2) are not actually reviewing the submission.

Thanks.

they aren't helpful, but they fall under the same sort of area as people leaving codes to custom levels for other submission. I wouldn't delete them myself. Other moderators may feel differently. It is sort of a jerk thing to leave spoilers in a review, but with popular games, like ones with medals, the review will be off of the main page pretty quickly.

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Posted at: 4/4/09 07:41 PM

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I have another question.

What if theres nothing wrong with the review itself, but the author is giving abusive responses to the review. Is itl a good idea to flag the review or not?


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At 4/4/09 07:41 PM, Clbull wrote: I have another question.

What if theres nothing wrong with the review itself, but the author is giving abusive responses to the review. Is itl a good idea to flag the review or not?

From page 4 of this thread, my answer for this question was:

"well, we have no tools to delete only an author's comments, so review moderators can't really delete an otherwise fine review just because the author is being an asshat. That would leave way too much room for authors to abuse it by leaving abusive comments on reviews which aren't the score they want...and try to mess with the review score of their submission instead of dealing with the criticism."

Guys, please read the whole thread before you post.

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Posted at: 4/5/09 04:16 AM

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I have a question, this is more for the future. What if someone makes a game with medals and specifically asks in the comments to not leave spoilers. Also say if someone submits a game with custom level codes and asks that all codes be shared on his user page and not in the reviews, would those be abusive.

I was just wondering because in those cases it is the authors wishes that those not be in the reviews.

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Posted at: 4/5/09 09:33 PM

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Oh noes, it appears this thread is locked :(

fret not, if your question hasn't already been answered in here or your still curious about that newly deleted review, you may ask it in the new thread, Review Answers 2.0

But before you run over there, make sure you read all of this thread first, you'll just be coming back again once you read my first post ^_^

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