At 7/4/08 04:38 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:
At 7/4/08 02:48 AM, gfoxcook wrote:
I smell a General topic...
But can you even blame him for putting it here?
Yes, I can.
FOR a General style topic, it's actually quite decent, yes. Like I already said.
That said, if we start welcoming and encouraging and/or being okay/settling for even moderately good General-style topics here, what makes this forum different.... what makes this forum a refuge FROM General... erodes. Lessens. Shrinks.
It's like saying "hey, this is one of the best of the bad sorts of virii or bacteria... we don't need our white blood cells to attack this one, let's let it stay." Well, unless by staying it's helping the immune system in the end to fight far worse things later on... I vote no.
What a great start on a thread. I hope I get as many pages as i did on the WTF Kitty Krew Forum.
I KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP. You're that dude who started the damnable Kitty Krew topic I stopped reading after a page or two and then noticed got locked after it hit 12 pages or so in an insanely short period of time (for Wi/Ht?, at least).
Huh WHAT?! It had 50 pages at locking, though later account deletions must have lowered the count to 49. Also it went on from November to June: a good 8 months.
The last time I read it must have been when it was on page 12. It stuck in my mind for some reason, that page #.
Past that point, I put it on my ignore list, which for Wi/Ht? = The Computer Hospital topic and Rage's Gift: Abusive Reviews topic (and back then, the KK topic, too)
In b4 LordZeebmork or someone shows up saying how Wade has "sold out". Admittedly he and Tom kinda have taken a more commercial and less artistic direction than they did for most of the site's history, deleting Flash and locking accounts for so much as the appearance of a swastika in the Flash,
That one right there isn't exactly evidence of the commercialisation of NG, IMO. That's just private website owners deciding they don't want to tolerate infinite free speech, and having some reasonable line in the sand that they won't let users cross and cross and cross again and again with impunity, that's all.
Web 2.0 BS like blogs, and all that.
Now yes, the MySpaceification of userpages, what with news posts and now YouTube vids and all, is somewhat more of a "trying to be like the 2.0 crowd and being more mainstream/commercial," yes.
Honestly, I think a little bit of so-called "spam" here and there isn't really that much of a bad thing.
Spam in the portal is different from spam in the BBS, and both are very very different from Nazism/racism-espousing/mocking/obsessin g in either place.
Still, this looks to be a much better discussion than his damned Kitty Krew one, so... let's give it a chance.
Whoa, hold on there man. You really can't discriminate against the KK topic...
Uh... yes, yes I can. And I do indeed choose to. Sorry.
I mean, I was less experienced as a poster, he was less experienced as a poster, hell all of us involved were less then than we are now,
You'll notice I didn't call anyone specific out, except maybe him for creating it. Just a moment here and I'll get to why the topic was a bad bad thing. (below, in my reply to FatKidWitAJetPak... see point B down there)
As for the topic helping you to grow as a poster.... there's plenty of other topics on this forum (and hell, even on General, or many other forums on this BBS) that would have done that. So don't talk like it was some magical petri dish that you owe your entire NG persona to now. O_o
I wonder what would be the limit for the Top 100 posters today?
I dunno. If I had to guess, I'd guess.... 10,800 to 11,200.
Humantarget52, Pimp, bomb... Heck, 40% of the Top 50 are probably alliances of individuals depositing for accounts.
I doubt it's that high. Less than 10 of the users, so 20% at most.
At 7/4/08 07:09 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote:
ANd the only reason the thread was locked was because spammers took over and started posting random pictures everywhere. Just look at the thread for christ sakes! Oh and it is a discussion thread, so that is why I posted it into the Questions thread. Me and others have repeated that like 500 times.
A) Spammers taking over is why the thread got to 50 pages, yes. And it was a bad thing to have happen anywhere on NG, but especially on a non-General forum. HOWEVER... your topic itself is to blame for that indirectly. I'm not saying you asked for the spammers to come to it, but you'll notice that NO OTHER TOPICS on this forum have that problem.
Also, even though you didn't ask for it, you've already made at least one post in THIS topic about whether this will get as many pages as that topic did. You clearly derive some sort of personal pleasure or pride in making a long topic (You said: "I hope I get as many pages as i did on the WTF Kitty Krew Forum."). That's okay, though... I like it when my topics get long, too. A lot of us do. It doesn't really MEAN anything, but it's kinda like another stat to whore. But I don't sit back and let spammers take my topics to 50 pages without complaining/asking a mod to get rid of them. I'd rather lose 50% of the posts in a topic of mine that let shit like that be the reason it's so damned long.
B) "How the hell does the kitty Krew stay on newgrounds?"
That was the main premise of your KK topic. And it just isn't a good discussion for this forum. You also went on to say:
"And the clock krew is O.K... The Star Krew has good graphics some of the time... BUT THE KITTY KREW IS COMPLETLY IMMATURE! I just don't understand some of the humor that people have! Well... Does anyone no of any other really annoying group?"
Your second question after "OMG, WHY ISN'T KK EITHER BANNED BY WADE AND TOM OR BLAMMED BY THE USERS EVERY TIME THEY SUBMIT?!!?!?" (which is basically what your main question translates to, and sounds like any random review to a "crew flash")... is now "HEY GUYZ... WHO IZ AS BAD AS TEH KK??!?!!?"
Instead of polluting our great forum with that lame excuse for a reason to start a topic, and all the other stuff it ended up indirectly causing later, you should have made a club on the C&C forum called Anti-KK Club or something.
For all I know, such a thread already exists there, of course. In which case you should have just joined that club and bitched about the KK there.
KK = a portal issue.
Discussing the KK = a pastime on General.
Not here. Clear now?
Now, discussing why NG is addicting = an acceptable topic of discussion both on General AND here on Wi/Ht?, I will have to admit. So congrats on making a much better 2nd "big Wi/Ht?" topic. I won't say I hope this topic gets more pages for ya than the KK one did, because I'm not going to wish that hell on earth on my home here on NG BBS...
But I will say I hope this one survives longer (i.e. without getting deleted or locked) than the 8 months SoulMaster says your other one did.
That's the best good wishes yer gonna get from me. #;-}>
At 7/4/08 08:21 PM, phantomlassuk wrote:
I think alot of the reason is thats is so addictive is the redesign.
NG was just as addictive before the redesign, sorry.