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I could see Morrison going to Raw while Miz gets sent to SD. I think each would do well in the upper-mid card, like competing for the IC and U.S. titles. Henry would probably go to SD as well though they could use him on Raw to balance out SD having the Big Show. Course Show could be moved too so who knows?

I don't care where Punk goes, just turn him heel! Although moving him in the draft wouldn't make much sense since he has the MITB. He could just jump to SD if he were to challenge whoever the hell is the SD champion at the moment... No, really. Is Cena or HHH the champ on SD?

Also, lol at young Punk.

At 4/10/09 11:47 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I don't care where Punk goes, just turn him heel! Although moving him in the draft wouldn't make much sense since he has the MITB. He could just jump to SD if he were to challenge whoever the hell is the SD champion at the moment... No, really. Is Cena or HHH the champ on SD?

Who says Punk has to challenge for the main title? I'm seeing Punk's identical twin Punkette taking on Santina for the Women's title a few PPV's down the line.

At 4/10/09 11:47 AM, pepeatumi wrote: I don't care where Punk goes, just turn him heel! Although moving him in the draft wouldn't make much sense since he has the MITB. He could just jump to SD if he were to challenge whoever the hell is the SD champion at the moment... No, really. Is Cena or HHH the champ on SD?

At the moment, Triple H and the WWE title are the property of SD!, this could change via the draft (and that tag match at Backlash almost seems designed for H to be able to drop the title without actually dropping it). Also I agree, Punk is best as a heel, and I really think that'd be the best situation for them and for us to see if Punk really can headline at a national level. Because as a face he does tend to be quite "vanilla" that's not totally WWE's fault. But if he were a heel, I think he could really stand out and be an asset. If Edge gets moved, Punk should be moved and tried to fill that Edge shaped whole on Fridays.

Also, lol at young Punk.

At 4/10/09 09:33 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Who says Punk has to challenge for the main title? I'm seeing Punk's identical twin Punkette taking on Santina for the Women's title a few PPV's down the line.

O_O fuck you...just...just fuck you.

The scary thing is they might do it...

At 4/9/09 09:57 PM, 7thkiller wrote:

At 4/6/09 07:36 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: so i don't know how it ended i just know HHH got the clean win and it rapped up quickly..

dude i was a messed up end for some reason HHH pulls out a sledge hammer beats up randy AND THE REF says NOTHING! randy would of won if it wasnt for HHH cheating

wtf, wasnt HHH supposed to lose the title if he cheated?
anyways what a shitty match to end the night

At 4/10/09 09:33 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote:

Who says Punk has to challenge for the main title? I'm seeing Punk's identical twin Punkette taking on Santina for the Women's title a few PPV's down the line.

if punk dressed as a chick, he'd look like the biggest hobo junkie chick ever lol

I ended up missing SD last night. I saw they had a stretcher match with Matt Hardy winning again. Very interesting they have Matt win twice in a row. It will be interesting to see how they end this fued, hopefully both Hardy's will be able to capitalize from it by getting some main event pushes.

At 4/11/09 11:09 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I ended up missing SD last night. I saw they had a stretcher match with Matt Hardy winning again. Very interesting they have Matt win twice in a row. It will be interesting to see how they end this fued, hopefully both Hardy's will be able to capitalize from it by getting some main event pushes.

Some weird matches, but overall a fairly decent show. I really enjoyed Kofi/Big Show despite the obvious size differences. Kofi definatley deserves a good push. He can really get the crowd going and entertain.

Cody and Ted also showed that they could work well as a tag team, something we haven't really seen from them recently. Good to see them build momentum picking up the win over Primo and Carlito.

Obviously Matt/Jeff stole the show, a really good spot match with a suprising outcome. Still, I'm looking forward to see where they go with this.

At 4/10/09 11:28 PM, aviewaskewed wrote:

At 4/10/09 09:33 PM, HeartbreakHoldout wrote: Who says Punk has to challenge for the main title? I'm seeing Punk's identical twin Punkette taking on Santina for the Women's title a few PPV's down the line.

O_O fuck you...just...just fuck you.

The scary thing is they might do it...

I hate that they made that match at mania such a joke, i did not know who was in the ring and who ended up in the match for all i knew trish stratus was in the match. I found out after the ppv disappointed. But you knew it was Santino in the drag queen costume just standing around. It had added no value to the ppv, i hope they don't get the smart idea to do this every year... If that match happenes i will want to cry to see them just waste cm punk's talent like that. You better not fuck up creative team and vince you better not approve the dumbass ideas that they come up with.

At 4/11/09 07:09 PM, idiot-buster wrote: You better not fuck up creative team and vince you better not approve the dumbass ideas that they come up with.

Lol, Vince is the one who comes up with the crazy ideas, or at least the creative team function like they do because they are trying to please a big, 80 year old toddler.

About Punk though, I could honestly see him dropping the briefcase to someone else. He at least has the distinction of being the first, and currently only person, to win the MITB twice in a row.
If they do give him the title, he will have an unspectacular reign, and be booked horribly throughout. They've done it numerous times before, and one thing I know about the WWE is that they are never willing to change.
Why not misuse him in a totally new and intriguing way?

i saw smackdown
you know what i hate? the draft is coming up, but last night half the freakin raw roster was on smackdown wrestling, Kofi Kingston, Ted DiBiase, Cody Rhodes, Randy Orton etc.. there were a few more but i can't remember

At 4/11/09 10:36 AM, Random-Her03 wrote:

At 4/9/09 09:57 PM, 7thkiller wrote:

At 4/6/09 07:36 PM, Random-Her03 wrote: so i don't know how it ended i just know HHH got the clean win and it rapped up quickly..

dude i was a messed up end for some reason HHH pulls out a sledge hammer beats up randy AND THE REF says NOTHING! randy would of won if it wasnt for HHH cheating

wtf, wasnt HHH supposed to lose the title if he cheated?
anyways what a shitty match to end the night

well if the ref doesnt do anything than u cant be disqualfied, i think something happend and he looked away then HHH pulled it out

At 4/12/09 03:26 AM, 7thkiller wrote: well if the ref doesnt do anything than u cant be disqualfied, i think something happend and he looked away then HHH pulled it out...

...and walked up behind Orton, yelling SURPRISE!!! He never seen it coming.

Can't wait for the draft tomorrow. Maybe they'll pull a fast one on us and shock us with a completely unexpected move. (Like moving Jericho to ECW.)

At 4/12/09 01:33 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote: Can't wait for the draft tomorrow. Maybe they'll pull a fast one on us and shock us with a completely unexpected move. (Like moving Jericho to ECW.)

There is no way in hell that Jericho is moving to ECW at this point. Jericho's the number two heel in the whole company right now and they aren't going to put him on what is ultimately the developmental brand. If Jericho's moving anywhere in the Draft it'll be to Smackdown, and personally I'd welcome this because with Vickie on Raw now there's a chance that Edge will be drafted back to Raw, leaving space for another top heel to fill in his absence. It would be nice to see Jericho have a change of scenery.

At 4/12/09 01:59 PM, TheD-LucksEdition wrote:

At 4/12/09 01:33 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote: Can't wait for the draft tomorrow. Maybe they'll pull a fast one on us and shock us with a completely unexpected move. (Like moving Jericho to ECW.)

There is no way in hell that Jericho is moving to ECW at this point. Jericho's the number two heel in the whole company right now and they aren't going to put him on what is ultimately the developmental brand. If Jericho's moving anywhere in the Draft it'll be to Smackdown, and personally I'd welcome this because with Vickie on Raw now there's a chance that Edge will be drafted back to Raw, leaving space for another top heel to fill in his absence. It would be nice to see Jericho have a change of scenery.

If anyone's going to be drafted to ECW, I could see it being Regal. Talented, not important, and low exposure so if he gets his dreaded 3rd strike it won't matter.
That is, unless his buddy HHH thinks ECW is below Regal.
I love the draft though, it always shakes things up (and hopefully JR won't get grouchy this year, when they draft him to ECW, or FCW, or whatever new way they come up with to fuck him over).

At 4/11/09 11:09 AM, Outlaw88 wrote: I ended up missing SD last night. I saw they had a stretcher match with Matt Hardy winning again. Very interesting they have Matt win twice in a row. It will be interesting to see how they end this fued, hopefully both Hardy's will be able to capitalize from it by getting some main event pushes.

I'd imagine what they're going for here is the whole "Jeff finally getting his revenge" deal. Plus, which Hardy is closer to being fired at the failure of a pee test and then you can't do anything with him anymore? Hmmm? You're seeing it now with Regal too, if you have 2 strikes on you, you aren't going to get a big push and hey, guess what? YOU FUCKING WELL SHOULDN'T!! I tend to think if you fail 2 drug tests, you are most likely going to fail a 3rd at some point so only an idiot says "I'm gonna build around this guy, put titles on him, and build my business up around him and just hope he's telling me the truth when he says the drugs are all behind him". Shit no, they both have long histories of substance problems and if they can't smarten up and get clean, they are getting what they deserve. I have no sympathy for either guy, job 'em both out to anyone and everyone you want to get to that next level if it'll work.

At 4/12/09 01:33 PM, Shoopufzilla wrote:

At 4/12/09 03:26 AM, 7thkiller wrote: well if the ref doesnt do anything than u cant be disqualfied, i think something happend and he looked away then HHH pulled it out...

...and walked up behind Orton, yelling SURPRISE!!! He never seen it coming.

Can't wait for the draft tomorrow. Maybe they'll pull a fast one on us and shock us with a completely unexpected move. (Like moving Jericho to ECW.)

That would make for a good laugh, but it will never happen. When you are such a big heel as Chris jerico is you would not want him to be on the C brand. From what i've been hearing they are looking to beef up the raw roster and putting smackdown in seconed. They realize even with all of the big superstars on smackdown and the rating staying the same or even going down vince wants raw to have almost all of the big names. Leaving smackdown with the undertaker and jeff ect.

Been reading some "spoilers" on the net and have heard a few interesting things. Apparently the stretcher match on Friday was the blow-off to Matt/Jeff and there going to be put on seperate brands, probably Matt to Raw. Regal's heading for ECW and Mark Henry's going to Raw. Umaga could be going to ECW. Rey and MVP could be switching places. Triple H is also rumoured to be heading back to Raw. Cena to Smackdown has also been thrown about.

And yeah, the rumours are that Raw's going to be build up full of star-power meaning ECW will probably be raped draft-wise again. Bourne may be switching to one of the bigger shows.

At 4/13/09 01:09 PM, DannyIsOnFire wrote: And yeah, the rumours are that Raw's going to be build up full of star-power meaning ECW will probably be raped draft-wise again. Bourne may be switching to one of the bigger shows.

Well yeah, that happens every year. It will be interesting to see where people end up. I like the idea of MVP and Rey switching places to give the U.S. title a change to be on Raw for a while. I'm really looking forward to being there to see it live. 3 hours is a lot of show, so I hope I don't get burned out in the first two hours.

WWE rocks!:) Maybe they'll switch in the draft. Won't know until tonight. It's cool how Rey beat JBL in only 21 seconds at the 25th Anniversary of Wrestlemania and made him quite pretty much out of frustration and disbelief. Whats funnier about it is that Rey forced JBL to retire nearly under 2 years ago.

Oh yeah, just to add, WWE have confirmed that theres going to be 12 draft picks tonight.

MVP was a great pick for Raw. I was wondering when he was going to leave Smackdown.

Although I do not want to admit it, I'm sure that Edge is headed for Raw. I love him on Smackdown, but he's done enough on that show to stay there any longer. I hope that Smackdown gets some good superstars to make up for it though, and hopefully keeps the guys like Jeff Hardy and HHH.

Come on Smackdown!

Wow Raw got four very big superstars: HHH, matt hardy, MVP and the big show. What the hell are they thinking, there goes the smackdown brand now all they have is the undertaker...

i cant believe that edge won that match i was thinking that they should end the match right now because there was no wasy edge would get big show over the rope well i guess was proved wrong

My prediction even before the draft was for Triple H to go to RAW (which he did), but I also think John Cena will go to Smackdown. He should, though, but we'll see.

With both Cena and HHH on RAW, I guess that means that either Cena is dropping the belt at Backlash, or Punk is going to cash in the MITB and bring a title to SD.

By the way, did anyone notice Todd Grisham totally burying Tommy Dreamer during his match with Jericho?

The other announcers called Dreamer and ECW legend, and Todd said the following.. If Tommy Dreamer is a legend, so is the Brooklyn Brawler. Look, if Vince (or anyone else backstage), doesn't like Tommy, then just fire him. No need to treat him like shit.

At 4/13/09 11:19 PM, pepeatumi wrote: With both Cena and HHH on RAW, I guess that means that either Cena is dropping the belt at Backlash, or Punk is going to cash in the MITB and bring a title to SD.

H could drop the belt without even jobbing though, which is probably the way they'll go thinking their protecting H while helping Orton.

By the way, did anyone notice Todd Grisham totally burying Tommy Dreamer during his match with Jericho?

Yeah, I was filling out the check to my credit card company and heard that and looked up and actually said "wtf?" Grisham was also being a real dick to Striker too, where the hell is the heat? I thought they weren't instructing broadcasters to act like heels anymore. If he wasn't acting, what absolutely classless comments out of him.

The other announcers called Dreamer and ECW legend, and Todd said the following.. If Tommy Dreamer is a legend, so is the Brooklyn Brawler. Look, if Vince (or anyone else backstage), doesn't like Tommy, then just fire him. No need to treat him like shit.

Agreed, but to be fair I think Grisham was harsh on ECW in general, I can appreciate he was trying to push the "I'm a SD! guy now, go my show" but he really seemed to slant the hate onto ECW mostly.

I'm really pleased with the draft so far, SD! picked up a lot of great wrestling talent in addition to what it already had, and there's really no longer a reason for me to watch RAW as all my personal favorites are on SD! now. Yay!!! RAW has been so shite lately....I guess the case could be made that I should pay attention till the Edge/Cena issue concludes...but yeah, for the most part, I'm Smackdown! through and through now.

****SPOILER ALERT, IF YOU DO NOT KNOW THE DRAFT PICKS AND DON'T WANT TO FIND OUT YET, THEN DO NOT READ THIS****

1. WWE United States Champion MVP drafted from SmackDown to Raw
every year i predicted mvp moving to raw, now this year when i finally think he'll stay on Smackdown, he gets drafted! but i'm not upset about it.

2. Big Show drafted from Smackdown to Raw
meh, i like the big show, but this guy goes from brand to brand all the time, so this just seems non suprising, also why was he acting all happy and jolly like the babyface big show? maybe he will turn face? i hope so, i really prefer him as a babyface.

3. WWE Women's Champion Melina to drafted from Raw to Smackdown
meh.. next

4. Matt Hardy drafted from SmackDown to Raw
I'm lovin this, i knew the fued between him and Jeff wouldn't last long.. i'm really hoping for a Cena/Hardy fued.. i think Matt is ready for it

5. WWE Champion Triple H from SmackDown to Raw
1 word... DUUUH!

6. C.M. Punk drafted from Raw to Smackdown
if you've read through this board, then you'd know that i cannot stand CM Punk, but this seems interesting.. i don't think he was ready for raw (i predicted him to get drafted to SD! last year) and also he looked pretty pissed when Jeff Hardy attacked Matt Hardy to give the victory to RAW.. could we see a heel turn for Punk?

7. The Miz drafted from ECW to Raw
well.. i really thought it should of been John Morrison getting drafted instead of Miz.. but i was actually suprised when Miz turned on Morrison.. also did anybody else hear Miz shout "FUCK YOU!!!" to Morrison after he attacked him?

8. Kane drafted from Raw to Smackdown
Just like Big Show, he has jumped from brand to brand the past couple of years so yeh.. kinda suprised me.. im pretty stoked that he's gonna be on the same show as Taker again.. also just like Big Show didn't anybody think Kane was coming off as a babyface when he was drafted?.. they've really screwed up Kane's role..

9. Chris Jericho drafted from to Smackdown
yes.. yes!.. YES!!! this was definately my favourite draft pick.. Jericho hasn't been on the smackdown roster since 2002, it's about time he went back! also i'm hoping for a fued between Jericho and Taker.. they've never been in a fued ever, even Jericho has confirmed that.. i'm so psyched about this one!

10. Vladimir Kozlov drafted from SmackDown to ECW
I knew it.. it was really the only choice for ECW

11. WWE Divas' Champion Maryse drafted from SmackDown to Raw
well Melina was drafted to SD! so i guess they had to make it even..

12. Rey Mysterio drafted from Raw to SmackDown
i remember hearing that this was going to happen.. but i didn't want it to.. i was really pulling for Christian to get drafted to SD!.. well i'm hoping that he's the big last pick in the supp draft.. here's hoping..

Gah, the draft was terrible, as were the matches leading up to the drafts. Fuck, some of the drafts were just filler anyway. Kane always gets drafted, he's getting really boring now.
At least Punk probably will win the title when he cashes in the MITB, but he'll obviously get screwed over by Edge imminently.
I dislike Rey, so swapping MVP for him annoys me.
And at least we have the 2 top heels in the company, to get buried by T-Lo, now.

I did like when DiBiase Jr. blatantly told Orton that he's too shit to beat HHH one on one ("we'll get them DQ'ed tonight, and that's how you'll win the title", you talentless, boring fuck).