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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 00:59:43 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:19 AM, Vengeance wrote:
At 3/2/08 10:24 PM, Luis wrote: Leaking
I completely agree. Thats why I absolutely hate the way that ngup has made it just numbers for each file. I use it to upload .swf files to send to people I'm working with, and knowing that someone can simply change a number and see whats in progress is just disturbing. They could at least md5 the name, take the first 10 characters and put an _ between that and the number. That would solve the issue.

I agree.. but i mean its a free service so its hard to really be demanding about it... i'll look into it nonetheless....

It's just really disappointing when a reg of the forum would do that.. i mean anyone that contributes anything to the portal knows how you bust your ass to bring entertainment to people.. why ruin it by blowing the suprise element. I understand theres lame noobs out there who will inevitably do it.. fuck them. Set an example as a reg to not do it.

Sorry to make such a big deal out of it .... k im done


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 01:12:03 Reply

Leak
I used to have public betas of some of my games because it's fun letting a lot of people test work and a group of people is usually easier to test with. But people started decompiling my files and distributing them across the web without permission, so I would have a half done game floating around the web.

It's too bad... I really want to trust people but it's like leaving your front door unlocked... sooner or later someone is going to bust in.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 03:34:53 Reply

FUCK 3:35 AM MONDAY MORNING FUCK YOU


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 04:12:20 Reply

At 3/3/08 01:12 AM, jmtb02 wrote: Leak
I used to have public betas of some of my games because it's fun letting a lot of people test work and a group of people is usually easier to test with. But people started decompiling my files and distributing them across the web without permission, so I would have a half done game floating around the web.

It's too bad... I really want to trust people but it's like leaving your front door unlocked... sooner or later someone is going to bust in.

I know the feeling. I'm working on a Crash Bandicoot Flash game with TaroNuke, and we released a demo on Devart. It's literally all over the net now. Well, at least it has our logo in it. But someone actually submitted it to Newgrounds the bastard. He got his account deleted though so it's all good.


Song of the Firefly is on Steam Greenlight and Kickstarter. Give them a look and support the project!
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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 05:10:54 Reply

At 3/3/08 04:24 AM, ShirtTurtle wrote:
ahaha, that was so cool.
looks like it would be a really fun thing to work on.

It is when I can be assed to, lol.
Some of it is really tedious, particularly since I have quite a slow pc...


Song of the Firefly is on Steam Greenlight and Kickstarter. Give them a look and support the project!
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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 11:57:00 Reply

RyanPridgeon

Just a question... does anyone here remember me? :O:O


I make flashes because I can.
PM me for anything flash or web related or visit my blog!!

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:03:48 Reply

At 3/3/08 11:57 AM, RyanPridgeon wrote: RyanPridgeon

Just a question... does anyone here remember me? :O:O

I remember your name and there was something else i remembered about you, but I've forgotten.
OHWAIT, panda website? Or something?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:12:33 Reply

At 3/3/08 11:57 AM, RyanPridgeon wrote: RyanPridgeon

Just a question... does anyone here remember me? :O:O

Does someone need an ego stroke? *stroke* ^_______^

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:23:11 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:12 PM, Deathcon7 wrote:
At 3/3/08 11:57 AM, RyanPridgeon wrote: RyanPridgeon

Just a question... does anyone here remember me? :O:O
Does someone need a penis stroke? *stroke* ^_______^

Like you needed an excuse. Hussy.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:26:55 Reply

Optimizing AdSense

So recently we released the update of KungFuGaming.com, the site that me and two friends are running as a part of a school project. I'm a little bit disappointed in our incomes through the ads though, we only make a few cents a day and are up on $5 total. We are all very new to this though so we don't really know if we can't expect more considering the amount of traffic we have (since we released a game with our logo and links in it a week ago we've had about 1200-1400 visits every day), or if we may have done a poor job optimizing our ads. What do you guys think, I know many of you here have experience with this kind of stuff?

Also, the site is not completely finished as you can see, there's still a lot of polish needed as well as functions that needs to be coded. Never mind that now though, please just focus on the ads :P
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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:34:34 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:26 PM, DreamworX wrote: Optimizing AdSense

Adsense has done me good, but only because i clicked my own ads. When i was concentrating my money making on Adsense, I'd go to school and click the ads i had, do it from home and MSN people. Of course Adsense caught on and warned me, but by then they had already sent me $210 and i was fine :D

Since then I've not done that and left the adverts up with no clicking from me and I've made just around $40, that's in over a year.

I don't think there is a specific way of optimizing adsense, the only way i see people getting good clicks is sticking the adverts in a list and made to look like they belong there, for example in a list of games.

Besides that, i can't think of anyway. Just try all the different ad companies and see which works best for your site. I can however say, don't plaster your sites with adverts, it's horrible :D

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 12:34:54 Reply

Traffic. Not only will your clicks go up but your higher paying ads will follow. Your alexa is hitting in the high 5 millions, which means you need to bring a few more people to your site.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 13:00:11 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:34 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Traffic. Not only will your clicks go up but your higher paying ads will follow. Your alexa is hitting in the high 5 millions, which means you need to bring a few more people to your site.

Not entirley true (read Taylor & Ninja-Chickens posts a bit further down in the thread about "Smart pricing")

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 13:21:28 Reply

What do YOU think it can do?

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 14:29:43 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:34 PM, citricsquid wrote: Adsense has done me good, but only because i clicked my own ads. When i was concentrating my money making on Adsense, I'd go to school and click the ads i had, do it from home and MSN people. Of course Adsense caught on and warned me, but by then they had already sent me $210 and i was fine :D

The problem is that they probably discover it very fast, and then you might get kicked out before even getting any money.. And even if you do get the money it's probably better to spend your time to make games or something instead of clicking your own ads :P

I don't think there is a specific way of optimizing adsense, the only way i see people getting good clicks is sticking the adverts in a list and made to look like they belong there, for example in a list of games.

From what I've heard it should matter much where you put the ads on the site, along with some other things like how you color them and stuff like that. Much of this seems somewhat abstract and insignificant to me, but I guess it's not impossible that it makes difference.

Besides that, i can't think of anyway. Just try all the different ad companies and see which works best for your site. I can however say, don't plaster your sites with adverts, it's horrible :D

Yeah, we try to keep pretty low on ads, but it sure would be nice to see that they pay off. Nowadays it seems like most gaming sites throws a popup ad your way every time you go to a new page (I have a popup blocker, but many still gets through). They might pay well, but I hope that I will never get the idea to put them on the site as they ruins so much of the visitors experience.

At 3/3/08 12:34 PM, jmtb02 wrote: Traffic. Not only will your clicks go up but your higher paying ads will follow. Your alexa is hitting in the high 5 millions, which means you need to bring a few more people to your site.

Yeah, I figure that traffic has the biggest impact on incomes. Still, at this pace we would need a few thousands visitors a day for it to even cover the costs of the server :S

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 14:34:49 Reply

At 3/3/08 02:29 PM, DreamworX wrote: Yeah, I figure that traffic has the biggest impact on incomes. Still, at this pace we would need a few thousands visitors a day for it to even cover the costs of the server :S

But do you really need a server? My website just has shared hosting at godaddy.com for about $13 a month, and that is 3 TB of traffic and 300 GB. Servers are fancy and all but it's nice to be hosted for a few bucks a month.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 14:44:34 Reply

At 3/3/08 02:34 PM, jmtb02 wrote: But do you really need a server? My website just has shared hosting at godaddy.com for about $13 a month, and that is 3 TB of traffic and 300 GB. Servers are fancy and all but it's nice to be hosted for a few bucks a month.

Sorry, that's what I meant :P

We use like a really cheap hosting service that covers our needs at least for now, the fact that it is so cheap makes it even more sad though as we have trouble covering it..

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 14:46:34 Reply

At 3/3/08 02:29 PM, DreamworX wrote:
Besides that, i can't think of anyway. Just try all the different ad companies and see which works best for your site. I can however say, don't plaster your sites with adverts, it's horrible :D
Yeah, we try to keep pretty low on ads, but it sure would be nice to see that they pay off. Nowadays it seems like most gaming sites throws a popup ad your way every time you go to a new page (I have a popup blocker, but many still gets through). They might pay well, but I hope that I will never get the idea to put them on the site as they ruins so much of the visitors experience.

That's the main problem with people who say that getting games sponsored is cheating developers out of money and that you can earn more by linking you your own site. That's all well and good, but I'd rather my site wasn't a complete slag :P


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 14:57:11 Reply

At 3/3/08 12:34 PM, citricsquid wrote: I don't think there is a specific way of optimizing adsense, the only way i see people getting good clicks is sticking the adverts in a list and made to look like they belong there, for example in a list of games.

All the ways I've seen to optimize adsence only work for article-based websites.

When the focus of your site is flash movies and games, "games" is a very low paying keyword, as is flash and most other entertainment based keywords.

I always see "look for high paying keywords", however the only way to get those high paying keywords would be to make your site into something about mortgages and loans, which removes the focus from your games or eliminates them all together.

Probably the best way would be to negotiate your own advertisement contracts when you get a lot of visitors. I get a huge CTR with image ads, but still a very low CPM. (My image ad CTR is like more than tenfold my text ad CPM, yet I get paid more per click on my text ads. It still works out to image ads making me about twice as much money).

I hate worrying about it though. It's a pain to deal with. You either keep your site a personal showcase of your work with minimal ads and earn enough to keep it up but not enough to pay any sort of living expenses, or you turn it into a business where you lose the personal feel of your site, and spend more time managing content from other people than creating your own.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 15:44:56 Reply

What I hate is when I'm reading an article on a website and they split it up into several pages - as if my Firefox can't handle longer pages or something. These sites are usually the ones with ads plastered on each side of the article, at the top of the page, in the middle of the article and of course at least 1 popup.. I know you need to make money but I think user base should be more important and that sort of advertising will not help keep any loyalties. For example, unrelated to the several pages thing, Digg.com has really annoying flash ads that pop out and cover the whole screen when you hover your mouse over them, which really take the piss when you do it by accident.. theres also an ad that has a 3D helicopter game which is totally cool but lags my browser to fuck. Shame, such a good website =P

Also, went to see Semi-Pro today.. FUCK YEAH. 5/5.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 16:12:40 Reply

At 3/3/08 02:57 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: I hate worrying about it though. It's a pain to deal with. You either keep your site a personal showcase of your work with minimal ads and earn enough to keep it up but not enough to pay any sort of living expenses, or you turn it into a business where you lose the personal feel of your site, and spend more time managing content from other people than creating your own.

WHERE IS THE BALANCE POINT?

I'd love to make a living off of a website, but your right, it's hard to balance between personal and commercial...


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 16:47:49 Reply

At 3/3/08 04:12 PM, Senti wrote:
At 3/3/08 02:57 PM, Glaiel-Gamer wrote: I hate worrying about it though. It's a pain to deal with. You either keep your site a personal showcase of your work with minimal ads and earn enough to keep it up but not enough to pay any sort of living expenses, or you turn it into a business where you lose the personal feel of your site, and spend more time managing content from other people than creating your own.
WHERE IS THE BALANCE POINT?

I'd love to make a living off of a website, but your right, it's hard to balance between personal and commercial...

The balance point probably involves having 1 personal and 1 commercial site, then paying someone a salary to manage the commercial site's business side.

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 17:26:40 Reply

damnit bad link
http://www.ngup.net/uploads/grandma!.swf

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 17:29:14 Reply

At 3/3/08 05:26 PM, As-Soul wrote: damnit bad link
http://www.ngup.net/uploads/grandma!.swf

That was a good song.


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 17:38:12 Reply

zOMG!!! My wifi dongle broke :[ It was always bending and stuff, but now the whole USB socket thing broke off.. grr. Gonna get a new laptop, fuck it.. my current one is falling apart anyway D:


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 17:46:56 Reply

lol happens to me all the time (i've gone through at least 4)

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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 18:10:28 Reply

At 3/3/08 05:38 PM, liaaaam wrote: zOMG!!! My wifi dongle broke :[ It was always bending and stuff, but now the whole USB socket thing broke off.. grr. Gonna get a new laptop, fuck it.. my current one is falling apart anyway D:

Want mine? My router has Wifi now so I use that.

Seriously though, if you want it I can arrange it...


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 18:11:25 Reply

MindChamber In Jail

I'm not sure if this is true, but I'm asking everyone who has met him: Is this Jose Ortiz?


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 18:18:16 Reply

At 3/3/08 06:10 PM, Cheektoghetto wrote:
Want mine? My router has Wifi now so I use that.

Seriously though, if you want it I can arrange it...

Scratch that, my sister stole it apparently... I guess I'll just have to steal it back >.>


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Response to The Flash 'Reg' Lounge 2008-03-03 18:24:40 Reply

At 3/3/08 06:11 PM, ShortMonkey wrote: MindChamber In Jail

I'm not sure if this is true, but I'm asking everyone who has met him: Is this Jose Ortiz?

It's a joke. They're saying they look similar or something.

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