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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-05 23:14:25 Reply

At 7/2/09 09:40 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote:
Some may look at it that way. I don't and i hope the rest of the NGDD doesn't either. It's ironic but in most cases the person with the higher post count than someone else is most likely to have more spam posts. I'm not saying that all users with high post counts have spam posts but I'm sure if i looked in that person's post count I'd find a lot of useless posts.
Not if Mr. 10,000 signed up 4 or more years before the other user. Of course there's a possibility of that, the older poster could have gone through a long or hard noob stage with a good number of bans, but having more posts obviously doesn't imply BBS spam. And from the point of view of BBS Department points, the guy with 10,000 would automatically start with more, and under the old system that translated to rank.

Are you sure about that? As the BBS Department Leader i never gave anyone XR based on the current amount of posts they had before they were in the NGDD. I always started counting XR for them once they had become a member of the BBS Department.

I was actually thinking something else after hearing your idea, so I'd ask that you just hear me out: one set of points for each person. Depending on their Department, the way they earn points would be different: missions for each Department would be worth a certain amount to the members of that Department (and worthless to other Departments). Members of the BBS Department get points based on posting, members of the Flash Department earn points based on B/P, Flash reviews, and submissions, and that sort of thing, with other Departments' activities providing no points. However, winning an NGDD-wide contest would provide points for anyone, in any Department. That way, we encourage specialization while periodically discouraging complete neglect of other aspects of the Newgrounds experience.

I'm not so sure I understand you here either but I'm going to think that I do understand you. You're talking about having NGDD Contests and the people that participate in it only get points based on the activities the Department they're in allows them to do?

To be honest, before I started working on the "Missions" for the NGDD, i would always say how being part of the NGDD would make your job be protecting all of Newgrounds in every way. But it's now not so simple to do that. Obviously, you can only be part of 1 department and having 2 different ranks (Department Ranks + NGDD Ranks) is just way to complicated and would take a lot of people counting the points up.

At 7/4/09 05:28 PM, Gu-rrilla wrote:
I have... ever since I quit. I come to you guys as a leader of the NGPD, not as a former member. As for this Dept. lacking activity, I can ask my officers to take a look at the Dept. and see if they would like to join. We've grown in numbers and I'm sure at least a few would enjoy being part of the Dept. As for the LD system, I can barely keep up with it. I hope you consider my offering and put all hostility aside... if you know what I mean.

How can you say you still pay attention to the NGDD when your last post was like May 27th or something around that? Do you just lurk a lot without posting? Even as a leader of the NGPD you don't seem very active on the Newgrounds BBS. Though, i know you tend to disappear for a long period of time and then come back to newgrounds and then disappear again and so on.

I'm actually going to ask the NGPD if they're interested in joining the NGDD but only once the LD System is complete. I appreciate your offer but I'm going to put it aside as I don't think now is the right time to make a decision on it. The LD System is close to complete but not close enough.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-06 23:22:35 Reply

At 7/5/09 11:14 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: Are you sure about that? As the BBS Department Leader i never gave anyone XR based on the current amount of posts they had before they were in the NGDD. I always started counting XR for them once they had become a member of the BBS Department.

Guess I just made an ass out of myself then, I always thought it was otherwise. Sorry 'bout that!

I'm not so sure I understand you here either but I'm going to think that I do understand you. You're talking about having NGDD Contests and the people that participate in it only get points based on the activities the Department they're in allows them to do?

Not really. The NGDD Contests would be open to all, equal point rewards for all. Different Departments would each have their specialty, and other than Contests would only get points for the specialty, but a Contest would give points to whoever won. That way, there don't need to be multiple categories of points, and anyone could participate in the Contests (providing an essential difference between Contests and Department-specific Missions).

To be honest, before I started working on the "Missions" for the NGDD, i would always say how being part of the NGDD would make your job be protecting all of Newgrounds in every way. But it's now not so simple to do that. Obviously, you can only be part of 1 department and having 2 different ranks (Department Ranks + NGDD Ranks) is just way to complicated and would take a lot of people counting the points up.

Very true, but my proposal doesn't require that.

Of course, it's your design, not mine, and if you think I'm sounding completely out of my mind here, it's OK to just ignore anything stupid I say. You and Phantom are the leaders here, I'm just some dude who disappeared after the Audio Department leader got v&.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-09 22:12:27 Reply

Hi , i would like to join the the department i dont have much experience WITH flash , but i want to help the portal by blamming protecting flagging ext. I hope to get a response soon.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-09 23:15:06 Reply

At 7/9/09 10:12 PM, darktrogdor wrote: Hi , i would like to join the the department i dont have much experience WITH flash , but i want to help the portal by blamming protecting flagging ext. I hope to get a response soon.

It would be wise to read the most recent pages before posting. At this point, due to upcoming widespread reconstruction of the NGDD, we are not accepting members. Also this is your first BBS post, no Blams, no Saves, 11 reviews (most of them of rather low quality), there's no reason to believe you've ever deposited points, no Flash or Audio... Even if the Department of Defense was accepting new members, you would not be eligible.

I would suggest that you get out there and do some B/P and flagging on your own, post in some threads somewhere (maybe you'll find something that interests you in the Video Games forum), work hard and you'll eventually meet NGDD membership standards. Then you can come back to join, perhaps, or if by that point construction is still happening, to help and to join when it's complete.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-10 11:46:54 Reply

Least i still have my dignity.....

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-11 13:18:37 Reply

Well, I'm back, and I have to leave again tomorrow. I don't have much time, so I'll see if I can skim over the LD system and resulting discussions.

I'm glad that the club is starting to move forward. Hopefully we can continue that momentum.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-11 13:30:51 Reply

Sorry about my inactivity here these past few days. I was banned on the BBS for posting a photoshop in a photoshop thread :\

At 7/6/09 11:22 PM, SoulMaster71 wrote: At 7/5/09 11:14 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: I'm not so sure I understand you here either but I'm going to think that I do understand you. You're talking about having NGDD Contests and the people that participate in it only get points based on the activities the Department they're in allows them to do?
Not really. The NGDD Contests would be open to all, equal point rewards for all. Different Departments would each have their specialty, and other than Contests would only get points for the specialty, but a Contest would give points to whoever won. That way, there don't need to be multiple categories of points, and anyone could participate in the Contests (providing an essential difference between Contests and Department-specific Missions).

A better explanation and i appreciate it but i don't feel like I'm 100% understanding this.

So you're saying have contests which everyone can participate in and basically points can be earned but the points have no specific name. So therefore whoever has won those points will have it added to their department points? So like if the contest prize is 100 points and i have 200 BBS Points, i would then have 300 BBS Points correct? It could work though i don't know. I'll have to do more research on it.

To be honest, before I started working on the "Missions" for the NGDD, i would always say how being part of the NGDD would make your job be protecting all of Newgrounds in every way. But it's now not so simple to do that. Obviously, you can only be part of 1 department and having 2 different ranks (Department Ranks + NGDD Ranks) is just way to complicated and would take a lot of people counting the points up.
Very true, but my proposal doesn't require that.

Of course, it's your design, not mine, and if you think I'm sounding completely out of my mind here, it's OK to just ignore anything stupid I say. You and Phantom are the leaders here, I'm just some dude who disappeared after the Audio Department leader got v&.

I don't like to say it's my design even though I am the one working on it. I'd rather we say it's our design :)
But no, i appreciate all the ideas coming from you guys. Hell, it's easier when you have people throwing you ideas instead of having to come up with your own, in my opinion that is.
TheThing is also a leader which everyone seems to be forgetting lol. Yeah... Sirtom... let's not remind ourselves of him.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-15 18:09:51 Reply

Sorry I'm late in posting, I completely forgot about Newgrounds (other than depositing) for the last few days.

At 7/11/09 01:30 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: So you're saying have contests which everyone can participate in and basically points can be earned but the points have no specific name. So therefore whoever has won those points will have it added to their department points? So like if the contest prize is 100 points and i have 200 BBS Points, i would then have 300 BBS Points correct? It could work though i don't know. I'll have to do more research on it.

Yeah, pretty much like that. If there's nothing that involves and unites the whole NGDD, how can we claim we're all one group? My idea's the best way I could think of to keep us all on the same page.

I don't like to say it's my design even though I am the one working on it. I'd rather we say it's our design :)

You can call it that if you want, we're both thinking together on this (if you're keeping Phantom informed he's probably thinking too, and anyone else who comes back will probably try to get themselves involved). In the end though, you're the one deciding what becomes the system and what is left behind. Well, you and the other leaders.

But no, i appreciate all the ideas coming from you guys. Hell, it's easier when you have people throwing you ideas instead of having to come up with your own, in my opinion that is.

I'm sure it is. It's hard to write a story without inspiration in content and style, so I know it would be hard to make a working statistical system without some external ideas.

TheThing is also a leader which everyone seems to be forgetting lol.

Oh, yeah. He's been away a lot lately, busy with vacations, so it's easy to forget that he helps run the place.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-15 22:38:38 Reply

Talking about TheThing going on vacation... I'll be going on vacation from Friday-Tuesday. So I should be back Wednesday or so. This is probably going to kill the activity we got going here but I'll be posting the next list of ideas once I talk it over with Phantom. I'd prefer to do this talk with him when I am back from vacation.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-16 19:55:23 Reply

At 7/15/09 10:38 PM, DarkSoldier wrote: Talking about TheThing going on vacation... I'll be going on vacation from Friday-Tuesday. So I should be back Wednesday or so.

Where ya goin'? I'm not getting any vacation this summer: have to be around in case of this or that coming up on the road to college.

This is probably going to kill the activity we got going here

Not necessarily. Friday-Tuesday or Friday-Wednesday is such a short period, you'll be able to jump right back in where we left off, unless someone else shows up for discussion or something, and that's unlikely. Even then, you'll only have to read a few posts to get caught up.

but I'll be posting the next list of ideas once I talk it over with Phantom. I'd prefer to do this talk with him when I am back from vacation.

I completely understand. Well, have fun on vacation or whatever, and don't worry yourself with the Internet while you're gone.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-16 20:12:39 Reply

Anyone living in the North East interested in going to the NG Boston meet? The thread is here: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1039 166/1 Would be cool to meet some old (or new) NGDD members irl.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-20 20:47:48 Reply

At 7/16/09 08:12 PM, life wrote: Anyone living in the North East interested in going to the NG Boston meet? The thread is here: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1039 166/1 Would be cool to meet some old (or new) NGDD members irl.

I would, but I doubt my parents would let me go to Boston by myself. Besides, I'm too young to do fun stuff legally.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-21 23:35:07 Reply

Hey guys! I just got back home about 4 hours ago. I had a great time on vacation but I'm more happy to be back as I have a lot of motivation and I want to get right down to business. It's 11:30 PM now which is a little late for me since I'm tired so I'll make this brief.

There is an idea in development for the LD System that involves training prospects (future NGDD members). It was an idea that was mentioned a while back here in the thread and lately I was talking with a friend about a Halo clan i run and he spoke about having prospects and stuff and that got me thinking about the NGDD. This idea will really determine if the LD System will be a fail or a success. From this moment on the NGDD is taking a risky path which could lead us anywhere.

I will also start nominating some potential Department Leaders. Not all the department leaders I'm looking at are NGDD former members. I'm seeking for the perfect people for the job. The NGDD is all about improvement so if you don't get chosen then it's not the end of the world. Just keep working at protecting Newgrounds and good things will come :)

The nominated department leaders will go through a probation as well. A tougher probation then the one a normal member would receive. I'm also going to post the probation requirements for each department and how the "Training System" or "Prospect System" will play along.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-07-24 15:46:49 Reply

As far as Boston, I'd go if I could (anything to get away from my accursed little brother!), but sadly I don't have a driver's license and my parents have neither the time nor the interest to drive me. Maybe someday I'll be able to attend a meetup, but that time is not now.

Also, as far as the new probation requirements... Well, I'll comment on them when I see them. I can only give the general advice now that they (obviously) should be tough enough to keep out the incompetent but lenient enough to allow anyone with dedication and some sign of intelligence.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-02 21:37:00 Reply

I'd like to join the flash department. I mean, the only requirement I have is 30 good and detailed reviews. I'll join as I haven't been reviewing a lot at all and this will be motivation to get voting for some exp and to review some stuff. I like reviewing the stuff that's under judgement personally but that's just me. Also hopefully this'll get me more active in the BBS.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-03 02:11:10 Reply

At 8/2/09 09:37 PM, coddude321 wrote: I'd like to join the flash department. I mean, the only requirement I have is 30 good and detailed reviews. I'll join as I haven't been reviewing a lot at all and this will be motivation to get voting for some exp and to review some stuff. I like reviewing the stuff that's under judgement personally but that's just me. Also hopefully this'll get me more active in the BBS.

As of now, due to attempts to implement a new ranking system, no new members are being accepted at this time. Also that was (under the more-recent Department system) the Portal Department, rather than the Flash Department. Yeah, I know, it's a very common mistake. However, if you want to stick around, toss around ideas, and contribute to the club redesign (as long as DarkSoldier hasn't forgotten this place exists), that would be swell, and you can join once the time comes.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-03 13:55:23 Reply

Ok. I think it's pretty cool that there's a club that you can at least talk in and suggest stuff when you're not in it.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-04 12:50:21 Reply

Um hi. Can I join the Department of Flash


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-04 13:46:34 Reply

At 8/3/09 02:11 AM, SoulMaster71 wrote:
At 8/2/09 09:37 PM, coddude321 wrote: I'd like to join the flash department. I mean, the only requirement I have is 30 good and detailed reviews. I'll join as I haven't been reviewing a lot at all and this will be motivation to get voting for some exp and to review some stuff. I like reviewing the stuff that's under judgement personally but that's just me. Also hopefully this'll get me more active in the BBS.
As of now, due to attempts to implement a new ranking system, no new members are being accepted at this time. Also that was (under the more-recent Department system) the Portal Department, rather than the Flash Department. Yeah, I know, it's a very common mistake. However, if you want to stick around, toss around ideas, and contribute to the club redesign (as long as DarkSoldier hasn't forgotten this place exists), that would be swell, and you can join once the time comes.

No, i know this place still exists. I've just been kind of busy these past few weeks. I was actually suppose to get things done fast but I just got busy. And i know that's been the same excuse I've given for a while but what else do you want to tell you, a lie? Truth be said, it's probably for the best that i finish what's making me busy than working on the NGDD because once i start announcing the Department Leaders we're now down to business. The people I have in mind have not yet been contacted but once they're we've officially put ourselves in a no-going-back zone. Anyways.. I should no longer be busy tomorrow or so. This summer's gone pretty fast :(

At 8/3/09 01:55 PM, coddude321 wrote:
Ok. I think it's pretty cool that there's a club that you can at least talk in and suggest stuff when you're not in it.

Uh.. that's only for the Re-design stage. Afterward you will need to be a member to contribute information here publicly. You can always suggest to me things when you're not a member through private messages :)

At 8/4/09 12:50 PM, Glides wrote:
Um hi. Can I join the Department of Flash

Sorry, no. The Department of Defense is closed for renovations. Check back soon =D


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-04 15:17:15 Reply

I'll be at my cousin's at Rhode Island starting Thursday so if anyone want to deposit for me from Friday to Sunday, let me know.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-08 17:09:38 Reply

At 8/8/09 04:49 PM, thdrkside wrote: Let me ask you something as a member of the website you claim to protect. When someone 5/10's a spam flash, is that a fair vote? Are they not encouraging more spam?
Im just asking because you guys say you want flashes to get fair votes and reviews, yet nothing is done about these spam flashes.

One man, one vote. As long as no alts or proxies are used to ruin the system, a user can vote however they want on a flash.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-08 18:30:43 Reply

At 8/8/09 04:49 PM, thdrkside wrote: Let me ask you something as a member of the website you claim to protect. When someone 5/10's a spam flash, is that a fair vote? Are they not encouraging more spam?
Im just asking because you guys say you want flashes to get fair votes and reviews, yet nothing is done about these spam flashes.

Ah, thdrkside. You're the one who's, what, threatening to ruin Clock Day or something? Anyway, it's only "fair" if that's what they think the submission should get. If they're giving it a passing score because they think it's just going to pass, that's fucking stupid and it hurts the experience for the rest of us. But like Shrums said, one person, one vote, and it's not really "cheating" if they're not pulling out Tor. Just really, really annoying, in my opinion and in that of most of the people here.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-09 00:36:42 Reply

any updates on the renovations to this thread? i'm in the ngpd and hopefully i'll fit the requirements for the egb after clock day. might as well get involved with this thread too. if there's anything i can do to help, let me know, and when it's ready, i'll be here.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-09 18:24:57 Reply

At 8/9/09 12:36 AM, michelinman wrote: any updates on the renovations to this thread? i'm in the ngpd and hopefully i'll fit the requirements for the egb after clock day. might as well get involved with this thread too. if there's anything i can do to help, let me know, and when it's ready, i'll be here.

Just what DarkSoldier said above. We're near the brink of getting this rebuilding into full swing, but once again, it's his move to decide who he wants to nominate as leaders and to contact them. It's a reasonable assumption to think that he's at least considering it in some share of his free time, though it's probable that he isn't himself ready to contact anyone.

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-23 18:09:39 Reply

Hey guys, it's been a while. How are ya'll doing? I see that Phantom hasn't been shitting up the place recently. Just out of interest, how do you choose your leaders? I've been very curious to know how you can get really antisocial people on Newgrounds to dominate this club. I mean, it's like having police for a community, but the chief being a thief. It just doesn't quite roll if you catch my drift, yo. Why was he in power?


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-08-24 09:52:05 Reply

At 8/23/09 06:09 PM, GOTHCLAWZ wrote: Hey guys, it's been a while. How are ya'll doing? I see that Phantom hasn't been shitting up the place recently. Just out of interest, how do you choose your leaders? I've been very curious to know how you can get really antisocial people on Newgrounds to dominate this club. I mean, it's like having police for a community, but the chief being a thief. It just doesn't quite roll if you catch my drift, yo. Why was he in power?

You obviously came here trying to start an argument with/about Phantom. So I'd like to advise our members to NOT reply to GOTHCLAWZ.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-09-04 16:39:20 Reply

Just posting to let DarkSoldier and SoulMaster know I'm not a drive-by applicant. I'm more interested in this thread than the EGB or the NGPD, both of which I'm a regular in. If you need any help with any of this stuff DS, or have any parts of the new system that you'd like some suggestions about, I'd be glad to help you out with what little help I can offer at this point. :) I'm on NG all the time now, and It'd really bum me out if this redesign doesn't go through. Hope to see this place up and running soon!

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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-09-12 10:40:49 Reply

You flew right out of the NGPD though, michelin. Wasn't a long time that you were there, but yeah, I'd call you a regular. :P

As for the NGDD, a lot of people who are signing up to the NGPD seem really confused about our rules, compared to this places' rules... and i suppose it's always going to happen.


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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-09-13 17:34:19 Reply

hey, I was wondering if I could join the BBS department. If that would be feasible, please contact me with any information that you think i should have.
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Response to Newground's Department of defense. 2009-09-13 18:22:07 Reply

At 9/13/09 05:34 PM, blokeice wrote: hey, I was wondering if I could join the BBS department. If that would be feasible, please contact me with any information that you think i should have.
sincerely, blokeice.

You have amazing forum skills for such a recent comer to the BBS, so I'd say it would be OK IF we were accepting new members at this time. However, the NGDD is currently in a sort of overextended hibernation period, as you would know if you had read at least the most recent page of the thread. Thus, we're not accepting new members at this point. Feel free to stick around and discuss what direction this place might take from here though, if you're serious about joining when the Department is rebuilt.

At 9/4/09 04:39 PM, michelinman wrote: Hope to see this place up and running soon!

As do we all... Don't worry, I recognize you as a regular from the EGB. DS gave his ideas on the previous page, discuss those ideas as you see fit.

DARKSOLDIER IF YOU ARE STILL READING PLEASE READ THIS:
We have been waiting for over a month since your last post (not counting that warning against replying to GOTHCLAWZ). Is there any news from your end? Any word from Phantom or yourself concerning new Department leaders? Or have you no free time in which to run the NGDD?